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Old Posted Mar 17, 2023, 8:00 PM
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Isn't that more a case of nobody using that route so it's the first to be cut. There aren't that many useful connections and the timing and location of YTZ is preferable for those using Porter to Toronto.
PD overbuilt their jet schedule and have had crew shortages. That’s the main problem. This is evidenced by some YUL-YYZ & YHZ-YYZ ops temporarily being flown on the Dash 8. They have finally this past week cut temporarily to a jet schedule they can actually operate.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2023, 7:29 PM
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2023, 2:46 PM
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2023, 5:20 PM
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I’ve noticed 2nd daily YOW-ORD today? It was scheduled to land here at 10am but it landed at 12:19pm UA3370 CRJ7. Now it’s scheduled to depart for ORD UA3371 at 13:24pm.
I couldn’t find another second daily past today…anyone knows the significance to have 2 flights today to ORD? March break?
It showed on the FR24 app…not on the departure board of YOW.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2023, 6:18 PM
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I’ve noticed 2nd daily YOW-ORD today? It was scheduled to land here at 10am but it landed at 12:19pm UA3370 CRJ7. Now it’s scheduled to depart for ORD UA3371 at 13:24pm.
I couldn’t find another second daily past today…anyone knows the significance to have 2 flights today to ORD? March break?
It showed on the FR24 app…not on the departure board of YOW.
Must be a one-off like that one-off mainline to EWR back in November. The frequency increase on the ORD route isn’t until after Labour Day.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2023, 2:14 PM
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2023, 4:05 PM
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I assume that we will see a couple USAF C-17 Globemaster's here potentially tomorrow bringing vehicles for Biden's visit.

On Wednesday Air Force 1 (VC-25) will also be visiting. I imagine they may bring a C-32 with delegation aboard as well. I believe this happened back when Obama visited many years ago.

It seems like he will be staying overnight this time, so not sure when Biden will be landing - but expect ground stops and inbound delays upon his arrival and departure

https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/09/president-united-states-joe-biden-visit-canada
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2023, 6:20 PM
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I assume that we will see a couple USAF C-17 Globemaster's here potentially tomorrow bringing vehicles for Biden's visit.

On Wednesday Air Force 1 (VC-25) will also be visiting. I imagine they may bring a C-32 with delegation aboard as well. I believe this happened back when Obama visited many years ago.

It seems like he will be staying overnight this time, so not sure when Biden will be landing - but expect ground stops and inbound delays upon his arrival and departure

https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/09/president-united-states-joe-biden-visit-canada
Adding the NOTAM below for those interested.

Looks like Biden will arrive March 23, evening (after 5 pm), and leave by March 24 evening.


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(H0697/23 NOTAMR H0693/23
A) CZUL B) 2303232130 C) 2303250200
E) DAH IS AMENDED AS FOLLOWS:

CYR546 CLASS F RESTRICTED AIRSPACE IS ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE AREA
BOUNDED BY 24NM RADIUS OF 451921N 754009W
(OTTAWA/MACDONALD-CARTIER INTL TML) EXCLUDING CYR 537 AND CYR545,
NO PERSON SHALL OPR AN ACFT (INCL ALL RPAS) WITHIN THE AREA
DESCRIBED, EXC POLICE, MIL, REGULARLY SKED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER
AND CARGO CARRIERS (CAR PART 704 AND 705) OR MEDEVAC FLT AUTH BY
ATC OR OTHER FLT AUTH BY RCMP SECURITY COORD 343-571-3804.

ALL ACFT AUTH BY RCMP SECURITY SHALL:

A. PRIOR TO FLT PLANNING INTO CYR546, HAVE AN AUTH NUMBER
OBTAINED FM THE RCMP AIR SECURITY COORD 343-571-3804. THE REQUEST
WILL INCLUDE THE ARR/DEP LOCATIONS, OPR, PURPOSE OF FLIGHT AND
NAMES AND BIRTH DATES OF ALL PERSONS ONBOARD.

B. HAVE FLT PLAN WITH AUTH NUMBER IN THE REMARKS SECTION IN ORDER
TO OBTAIN CLEARANCE TO OPR WITHIN CYR546.

C. BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE
ASSIGNED DIRECTLY BY ATC OR VIA TELEPHONE (866-VFR-CODE) AND
SQUAWK THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEP AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE OPR
WITHIN CYR 546.

D. REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RDO COMM AT ALL TIMES WITH ATC. IF POSSIBLE,
MAINTAIN A LISTENING WATCH ON 121.5 WITH BACKUP RDO.

E. ACFT DEPARTING FM AN AD WITHIN CYR546 MUST ESTABLISH AND
MAINTAIN TWO-WAY RDO COMM WITH OTTAWA TML 127.7 AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE AFTER TAKEOFF.

F. PRIOR TO ENTERING CYR546 ACFT MUST ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN
TWO-WAY RDO COMM WITH OTTAWA TML 127.7.

UNAUTH FLT IN RESTRICTED AIRSPACE MAY RESULT IN INTERCEPTION,
DETENTION AND PROSECUTION.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2023, 7:18 PM
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Does anyone have the documented reason for the delay on YYZ-YOW AC470 19/3/2023, the flight was delayed over 4h and I am looking into getting compensation ?
There were mechanical issues with the A220 arriving at YYZ from PBI and it was delayed and eventually we left YYZ at 0200 on 20/3/2023 on a different A220 with a new crew.

TIA
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2023, 4:12 PM
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I assume that we will see a couple USAF C-17 Globemaster's here potentially tomorrow bringing vehicles for Biden's visit.

On Wednesday Air Force 1 (VC-25) will also be visiting. I imagine they may bring a C-32 with delegation aboard as well. I believe this happened back when Obama visited many years ago.

It seems like he will be staying overnight this time, so not sure when Biden will be landing - but expect ground stops and inbound delays upon his arrival and departure

https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/09/president-united-states-joe-biden-visit-canada
Yeah normally when El Presidente visits the airspace around YOW closes 2 hours before their arrival (in other words before they've even left).
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2023, 4:18 PM
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2023, 4:53 PM
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YOW's February Pax Stats:

Sector / Feb-22 / Feb-23 / % Change
Dom: 103,471 / 201,170 / +94.4%
TB: 5,271 / 48,965 / +829.0%
Int'l: 10,432 / 52,325 / +401.6%
TTL: 119,174 / 302,460 / +153.8%

Sector / YTD 2022 / YTD 2023 / % Change
Dom: 201,232 / 405,312 / +101.4%
TB: 10,539 / 91,495 / +768.2%
Int'l: 20,075 / 106,380 / +429.9%
TTL: 231,846 / 603,187 / +160.2%
YTD daily pax count = 10,224 = currently on pace for 3,731,760 pax in 2023 +100K vs January's pace

Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / Jan-23 / Feb-23 / % Change
Dom: 204,142 / 201,170 / -1.5%
TB: 42,530 / 48,965 / +15.1%
Int'l: 54,055 / 52,325 / -3.2%
TTL: 300,727 / 302,460 / +0.6%
Avg/Day: 9,701 / 10,802 / +11.4%
% of month's avg daily pax vs 2019 (13,990 avg pax/day) = 77.2%
YTD TTL vs YTD 2019 = 74.6%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2021
Dom: 2,913,079 / +154.7%
TB: 271,291 / +2,313.2%
Int'l: 179,305 / +11049.6%
TTL: 3,363,675 / +187.3%
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2023, 5:14 PM
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Does anyone have the documented reason for the delay on YYZ-YOW AC470 19/3/2023, the flight was delayed over 4h and I am looking into getting compensation ?
There were mechanical issues with the A220 arriving at YYZ from PBI and it was delayed and eventually we left YYZ at 0200 on 20/3/2023 on a different A220 with a new crew.

TIA
They are calling everything "in their control but needed for safety" these days and refusing. You can appeal and the govt has just announced money to work through the years long backlog.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 12:31 AM
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Just returned from a week vacation with Sunwing. That company would make an absolutely perfect Gong Show contestant.

We settled on a resort in the DR, which was accessible from Ottawa. (We could have saved $400/pax if we had driven to Montreal, but we felt that it is important to support YOW.) There were 12 of us so we decided to go through the Group Booking. There are lots of perks listed on the Web for groups.

The ‘Instant’ quote that they sent back (the next day) worked out to about $500 more for the 12 of us than if we had just booked individually. But we felt that getting the private transfers, upgraded rooms, etc. were worth the extra. I responded within the hour to say that we were interested. I got an ‘auto-reply’ e-mail that said that it might take up to 3 days to get a real reply.

On day 5, I e-mailed again, to get an ‘auto-reply’ that the agent was away for the next week but to phone and another agent could help. I phoned to see if there was any way to expedite things, since we were within the 40-days of the trip. (Yes, it was late, but getting a location consensus from 12 people . . .) Nope, the agent on the phone couldn’t help, since I had already been assigned to another – but she checked and there was a lot of availability on the rooms we were looking for at the resort, and lots of seats on the plane. Please be patient, I was told, my agent would get everything worked out for me.

A few more days passed, and I noticed that the cost kept rising on the Web. I called to ask about the group price. Don’t worry, I was told, the quoted price would be the one I would pay – even though it was well after the 48 hours that the quote was good for.

Two days after my agent’s return date, I phoned again, but still could not get ‘my’ agent, but the new agent checked availability for me, and there were still the rooms that we were looking for. I needed to be patient and everything would be fine.

Finally, at three weeks, I sent yet another e-mail asking for the e-mail address of their supervisor. I didn’t get that, but I did get a reply to my original e-mail. It included a spreadsheet that I needed to fill out with all of the data for the 12 people, including flight numbers, dates, resort name, room type, base price, fees & tax, full name, address, date of birth, contact information, etc. I had a time looking up all the info, but I managed to return the filled-in spreadsheet within a couple of hours. Then I heard nothing back for days.

Finally, I called again and talked to yet another agent. She was surprised that I hadn’t heard anything, since there was a confirmed booking number. But this was now four weeks after the quote and the only rooms left were the four small, older, double rooms – which were NOT the room-type that we were originally asking for.

How does it take over four weeks to get a group booking?

And, of course, the perks, it turns out, were not applicable to the DR – although I didn’t find that out until after the booking was paid for.

Weird thing about Sunwing: They do not charge for one checked bag, but there is a $25 charge for a carry-on. Since we were only going for a week, everyone in our group had a mostly empty checked bag.

The plane going down was an hour late taking off from YOW – although boarding was almost on time. The luggage wasn’t even loaded until after we were onboard.

The day before leaving, we did as we were told and asked the local Sunwing rep. when we needed to be in the lobby for our shared ride (not private transfer, as the group perks say) to the airport. We got the answer 09:50, which seemed reasonable, to us, as it was almost four hours before the 13:45 flight. For clarity, we repeated back “So we meet in the lobby at ‘9’ ‘5’ 0’, 9:50, tomorrow?” “Yes, 9:50.” He replied.

When we got to the lobby, we found that the bus had come and left at 09:00. The rep. had given us the wrong time. Surely, the pick-up time has been the same for weeks. How does he give out the wrong time. The resort was nice enough to get us a couple of large taxis – which were extra cost for us. We were lucky that we still had enough cash on hand to pay for the taxis and the departure tax.

On the flight back we also sat for an hour on the plane before we could take off – because of a “security issue with the luggage”. It seems that there was someone rifling through our luggage in the PUJ, so loading our bags was, again, delayed. When we got home, my sister-in-law found her jewelry bag (which had been in her luggage, since we didn’t have carry-on) ripped open and pieces missing. Maybe that is why Sunwing wants everyone to take checked luggage – because it helps feed local crime.

I, for one, am glad that the OIAA has yanked the licence from Sunwing’s baggage-handlers. It seems to me that Sunwing has zero control of its people. It seems that we just don’t have reputable passenger airlines in Canada. It is nice to see that the OIAA is trying to do the right thing for its customers.

Oh, and all 12 of us, and everyone we talked to there, suffered gastro-intestinal trouble at that resort. But they do sell lots of Imodium and Pepto Bismol, at more-or-less reasonable prices, in the on-resort pharmacy.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 2:51 PM
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@Richard Eade: Yikes!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 3:20 PM
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@Richard Eade: Sorry to hear that, but no surprise here. That is about par for the course with Sun Wing. Hopefully WS will clean things up, but I wouldn't bank on it just yet.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 4:45 PM
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Oh, and all 12 of us, and everyone we talked to there, suffered gastro-intestinal trouble at that resort. But they do sell lots of Imodium and Pepto Bismol, at more-or-less reasonable prices, in the on-resort pharmacy.
If you are in Mexico or know someone that is going, purchase some Treda, it is anti diarrhoea medicine that works wonders as it contains neomycin sulfate which is an antibacterial as well as an antidiarrhea treatment.

I buy some to bring home and take it wherever we travel.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 8:57 PM
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The plane going down was an hour late taking off from YOW – although boarding was almost on time. The luggage wasn’t even loaded until after we were onboard.

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On the flight back we also sat for an hour on the plane before we could take off – because of a “security issue with the luggage”. It seems that there was someone rifling through our luggage in the PUJ, so loading our bags was, again, delayed. When we got home, my sister-in-law found her jewelry bag (which had been in her luggage, since we didn’t have carry-on) ripped open and pieces missing. Maybe that is why Sunwing wants everyone to take checked luggage – because it helps feed local crime.

I, for one, am glad that the OIAA has yanked the licence from Sunwing’s baggage-handlers. It seems to me that Sunwing has zero control of its people. It seems that we just don’t have reputable passenger airlines in Canada. It is nice to see that the OIAA is trying to do the right thing for its customers.
Sunwing has a 100% match policy for their baggage handlers. Other airlines will happily take off with a bag or two missing from the count, and hope it either turns up and gets rushed on another flight or was a mistake. Sunwing flies infrequently and to vacation destinations, so a 100% match policy makes sense, but it's not possible in reality. They have ground crew scan bag tags to get a match with the check-in system, but that system makes it VERY easy for a CS agent to accidentally add a non-existent bag to a customer's account, especially as there is no charge as a confirmation. This is a frequent cause of delays.

The baggage handlers are contractors, so they don't have any ability to bend policy. Menzies is huge, but they did have an open position for a manager at YOW recently - it wouldn't surprise me if they were struggling to get staff if they only served two airlines with limited services at YOW.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2023, 11:57 PM
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Any of you stalk Air Force One?

Gotta love the tanker doing race tracks over Ottawa too.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2023, 1:58 PM
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