Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Fort Rouge

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by trueviking

And the corner lot at Stradbrook.

Is that dead? I haven't seen any action other than initially putting some fencing up. There was a homeless encampment in that lot for a while.

[trueviking]

I don't think so....the property was sold with a condition for development.

[DonaldSmith]

51 Units at 90 Wellington Crescent, 586 and 588 River Avenue

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/Vie...ctionId=681540

[zalf]

That will be kind of sad to lose the older homes on River. Progress marches on, I suppose.

I wonder if one of those having been hit by a bus last year played a role the viability of this. Nevermind; says exactly that in the linked document.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

51 Units at 90 Wellington Crescent, 586 and 588 River Avenue

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/Vie...ctionId=681540

That's pretty meh...

[bomberjet]

Can't make it too tall. The nieghbours might complain.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Can't make it too tall. The nieghbours might complain.

I was talking about the architecture and the unit configurations. Honestly would be a perfect place to do rowhouses.

[bomberjet]

Ya it's pretty plain jane.

[wags_in_the_peg]

bringing more density to OV is another great step

[bomberjet]

It's not terrible. Tyndall stone for large pieces. Better than some of the other buildings that have gone up in Osborne recently.

My original comment was to the other recent development, on Roslyn behind the Safeway. Where the building was too tall. Even though some of the tallest buildings in the City are across the street.

[borkborkbork]

These feel sad to lose for such a blah building.



However I guess 586 is already vacant and in poor shape. I think it had a bit of a wild history... it was a detox/addictions treatment centre for a while.

I guess I just wish that the design/aesthetic standards were higher in this city so that we don't always knock down well-designed buildings and put up ugly/cheap ones.

[borkborkbork]

oh, now that i look: 10 units out of 51 will be affordable, and 20 will be accessible suites for people with "complex mental health conditions". i guess this is very deeply needed and better than the current vacant house, SFR, and 4plex. still my aesthetic grumbling remains...

i will bet this will be a wild committee meeting: tearing down these little tudors and putting up a big apartment block occupied by people with serious mental health issues. NIMBY catnip!

[trueviking]

I go past that building every day wondering when it would become a hardie board special and here it is.....an Affinity hardie board special no less....

I'm all for density and the supports are badly needed, but this is a sad loss....it's no wonder everyone hates new apartment buildings.....it makes me sad that this is what we are passing to the next generations.

[esquire]

I wonder if this is an effect of relatively low demand and low real estate values for so many years... in a wealthy city, buildings like that would be polished up nicely and a magnet for people wanting an urban lifestyle in a character building. Here, it ended up as a rehab centre as borkborkbork noted. Other nice older homes/mansions have been similarly carved up or put to use in a way that doesn't do much to preserve it.

[trueviking]

they should delete the very expensive and totally out of place, curved curtain wall and put brick on the entire building instead of cement board with exposed screws....that money can be much better spent....it looks like an office building at the corner attached to a suburban apartment building.

delete the tyndall too....its too institutional.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by esquire

in a wealthy city, buildings like that would be polished up nicely and a magnet for people wanting an urban lifestyle in a character building.

Without being down on Winnipeg, I don't think it's about that we're not a wealthy city. We're just not a cosmopolitan one.

There's no cachet for urban living like there is in a city with a more vibrant city centre. What's our equivalent to Yorkville in Toronto -- a highly affluent pocket of residential and retail right in the core of the city? I can't think of a wealthy neighbourhood that's walkable and full of retail and restaurants. Wealthy Winnipeggers want to live in Tuxedo, Wellington Crescent, or the exurbs. Retail and restaurants are all spread out. In Toronto, if you have money, you barely need a car. Here, if you have money, you drive everywhere.

The closest I can think of is the Academy strip, but it's not really urban in any meaningful way. It's like 30% of a high street.

[esquire]

^ 586/588 River basically are Wellington Cr., though, it's across the street from the priciest condo building in Winnipeg. It is the sort of place that in a wealthier city would attract people with a certain means who want to be around there, at least partly because in a wealthier city there would likely be more things to attract people to that area.

But in this case demand was low enough that some rehab centre operators scooped the buildings cheap, and not surprisingly they got pretty run down in the process. There are a lot of homes and buildings in Winnipeg with that kind of faded glory, that were nice in 1910, 1940 or whenever but are kind of forlorn now.

[bomberjet]

I find that strip of Wellington interesting. There's aging apartment blocks right next to one Wellington. And then fancy old mansions just around the bend. The cluster of Corydon multifamily. A lot of different types of residential all mixed together.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I go past that building every day wondering when it would become a hardie board special and here it is.....an Affinity hardie board special no less....

I'm all for density and the supports are badly needed, but this is a sad loss....it's no wonder everyone hates new apartment buildings.....it makes me sad that this is what we are passing to the next generations.

[GreyGarden]

This looks like it may be Maryland and Westminster 2.0.