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[VANRIDERFAN]

Didn't watch the game and they won. Guess its highlight packages for me for until the playoffs.

[BlackDog204]

Logan Stanley apparently asked for a trade this week. No big loss, but I doubt we will get much for him at season's end.

He never was the "next Chara."

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by trueviking

"The Little and Wheeler long term, big value deals killing the cap and limiting the teams ability to chase free agents."

I never understand wheeler hate....they signed him to a long term deal in his prime...that's what everyone does....if you don't give them that they go somewhere else....he has been elite for most of the contract and even at the end, when most teams are being crushed under an albatross, he is still almost a point per game player....most teams dont get that lucky.

of course he's not worth what he is making this year, but that's not how long term contracts work....you pay for the early years and hope you are ok at the end...his points per game are as good as Dubois and Scheifele...at age 36....the jets did more than ok on that contract.

The challenge with the Wheeler and Little cap hits are far too high based on their ages late in the contracts and were more than generous when they were in their prime. Worse, once Little had a career ending hockey related injury the team was handcuffed with over a 5 million cap hit on a player that would never be on a game day roster again. That made it near impossible to do moves the team needed. Also the long term high value contracts these two players had contributed significantly to the tilting the cap to almost exclusively spending on forwards and looking on in befuddlement at why the D is so poor.

Chevy has done at best a C- job in his role as GM. The team and their fans deserve better.

[blueandgoldguy]

Idiot Wheeler played a big role in costing the Jets the win. Instead of flipping the puck in the air he ices it trying to get an empty netter and the tying goal happens shortly thereafter.

Scheif is back to being selfish taking long shifts and putting in little effort defensively just as he was under Maurice.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

Idiot Wheeler played a big role in costing the Jets the win. Instead of flipping the puck in the air he ices it trying to get an empty netter and the tying goal happens shortly thereafter.

Scheif is back to being selfish taking long shifts and putting in little effort defensively just as he was under Maurice.

Wheeler needs to go plain and simple. And take his little sissy boy Scheife with him. Ever since Wheeler came back this team has gone down hill. That's a fact that should be glaring in Rick's face.
It literally feels as if Wheeler is back to running this team the way they have gone back to the Paul Maurice style hockey. We've won 2 games out of 10. It's pathetic.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by CoryB

The challenge with the Wheeler and Little cap hits are far too high based on their ages late in the contracts and were more than generous when they were in their prime.

Do you have any idea how many bad contracts there are in the NHL right now, that are a complete albatross to their respective teams. The Little and Wheeler contracts do not fall into that category.

However, I can name a player that does- Andrew Ladd.

During the 2015-16 season, Chevy was dealing with players and their contract situation. Ladd wanted $6 million/year or higher. Chevy instead traded him away to Chicago for Marko Dano and a 1st round pick. Even though Dano did not pan out, it was addition by subtraction. The Jets could then sign Buff to a 5 year deal, and only had to pay him out for 3 seasons, since Buff violated the terms of his contract by quitting hockey.

Ladd was pretty much untradable after he signed with the Islanders in 2016-17, as his career fizzled.

Worse, once Little had a career ending hockey related injury the team was handcuffed with over a 5 million cap hit on a player that would never be on a game day roster again.

At $5.2 million/year Little's contract was not that bad. We can't expect that none of our players will be on the LTIR list with a career ending injury. This has only happened once to my knowledge. Besides, the Jets were able to write off most of Little's cap hit due to him being on the LTIR. Chevy does not have a crystal ball where he could see into the future, when negotiating players salaries, as to who is going to have a career ending injury.

That made it near impossible to do moves the team needed.

This is untrue. The Jets still had enough cap space to acquire players and sign others.

Chevy has done at best a C- job in his role as GM. The team and their fans deserve better.

Of the Canadian teams, the Jets are tied for second with Edmonton and Ottawa for playoff wins since 2011. They are also one of the better teams in the league (top 15), compared to the years as the Thrashers, when they were constantly bottom 5. When the Jets moved, some of their top prospects were Cormier, O'Dell, Clingberg, and Postma. The cupboards were empty.

[BlackDog204]

Well the Jets are in free fall mode, and will probably miss the playoffs. They are about to go on a road trip to play some of the best teams in the Eastern Conference, so it will be a miracle if they go .500.

Hellebuyck has been carrying the Jets since 2019, and considering he has been mediocre for the past month, the Jets have really 🞵🞵🞵🞵 the bed. Tonight, they out-shot a weaker Wild team, but just can't score.

Sadly, the Jets may end up in no-man's land at the conclusion of the season- missing out on a playoff spot, with no chance at a shot at Bedard and the draft lottery, and likely a #10-15 draft pick.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

Wheeler needs to go plain and simple. And take his little sissy boy Scheife with him. Ever since Wheeler came back this team has gone down hill. That's a fact that should be glaring in Rick's face.
It literally feels as if Wheeler is back to running this team the way they have gone back to the Paul Maurice style hockey. We've won 2 games out of 10. It's pathetic.

At 36, Wheeler's best days are long behind him, but his contract comes to an end next year, so we may as well play him since he is still better than most of our offensive players.

Why on earth would you want to get rid of Scheifele? He's on an amazing term contract until 2024, and has 36 goals this year.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Well the Jets are in free fall mode, and will probably miss the playoffs. They are about to go on a road trip to play some of the best teams in the Eastern Conference, so it will be a miracle if they go .500.

Hellebuyck has been carrying the Jets since 2019, and considering he has been mediocre for the past month, the Jets have really 🞵🞵🞵🞵 the bed. Tonight, they out-shot a weaker Wild team, but just can't score.

Sadly, the Jets may end up in no-man's land at the conclusion of the season- missing out on a playoff spot, with no chance at a shot at Bedard and the draft lottery, and likely a #10-15 draft pick.

It's bad but there is still a lot of time to snap out of the slump and stop free falling. That said, the alternative isn't all that much more appealing... I can see them getting into the playoffs as a wild card team before submitting to a first round exit. It's quite a change from two months ago when a SCF appearance didn't seem out of the question.

I thought this season would be the last hurrah for the existing core but it looks like they are going out with a whimper. Time to start the rebuild in earnest?

[Sheepish]

A few things...
First, didn't the Jets sell Little's contract? I don't think he is on the books any longer.

Second, Wheeler is not the problem. Jet's were by far the better team last night. They even won the face-offs. They dominated all 3 periods, and with a few exceptions were very clean in their own end. Probably one of their best games of the season. But giving up 3 goals on 9 shots is just bad. And while they can dominate, they are having too much difficulty scoring. When Sheif, and Ehlers and Connor, and Lowry and Appleton can't score consistently (or at all), you have a problem. And the power play is anything but!
In the end, they cannot put all the elements together to win.
Their demise is both shocking and depressing.

[Jammon]

Originally Posted by Sheepish

A few things...
First, didn't the Jets sell Little's contract? I don't think he is on the books any longer.

Second, Wheeler is not the problem. Jet's were by far the better team last night. They even won the face-offs. They dominated all 3 periods, and with a few exceptions were very clean in their own end. Probably one of their best games of the season. But giving up 3 goals on 9 shots is just bad. And while they can dominate, they are having too much difficulty scoring. When Sheif, and Ehlers and Connor, and Lowry and Appleton can't score consistently (or at all), you have a problem. And the power play is anything but!
In the end, they cannot put all the elements together to win.
Their demise is both shocking and depressing.

Little is off the books. Has been for some time.

I agree Wheeler is not the problem, but he is part of the problem. And that problem is a lack of accountability and leadership. There was a reason that he was stripped of the "C" and I see Scheif as one of the problems there as well.

The Jets are done for this season unless they can pull a miraculous comeback which I see unlikely. Helle hasn't been consistent since his flu/All-Star appearance and Rittich is just not a great back up where you can give him consistent starts. All on Chevy.

Personally, I want to see this team blown up. Get rid of Wheels, Scheif and PLD. PLD doesn't want to be here, but instead of giving him to Montreal, I'd sell him to the highest bidder in the off-season. Dump Wheels and eat up the remainder of his contract or at the very least, please put him on the 3rd line where he belongs now. I mean it as no disrespect because I love his passion, but he's way past his prime. I'm also really questioning Ehler's presence on this team as he has been in no-man's land for some time. Start building a new core, give some of the young guys a chance and see what you can do in the off-season. I really like the acquisition of Nino and so far, Namestnikov has worked out but I feel badly that they were traded to this mess of a hockey team.

[thurmas]

I think way too many people put blame on the forwards. Our defense is absolutely horrible outside Morrissey. Its been terrible for many years too and needs a complete rebuild.

[bomberjet]

This is like my beer league team. Highest scoring team in the league. Most goals against in the league... Eliminated first round of playoffs.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by thurmas

I think way too many people put blame on the forwards. Our defense is absolutely horrible outside Morrissey. Its been terrible for many years too and needs a complete rebuild.

It's funny because going into the allstar break, the jets were top 5 in fewest goals allowed. Team defence actually looked good and they were hanging with the big boys in the league when they faced them. Not sure what happened to flip the switch, but they seem to have lost their will to compete.

I must say, the past few games have looked like a desperate team, but they've somehow found a way to not score, which makes zero sense with the lineup they have. This should be a high scoring team. The defence has regressed and scoring is just not there, aside from a couple of players having good years.

I should also note that the trouble seemed to start as soon as everyone was healthy. So maybe having a bunch of injuries was good.

[bomberjet]

I'm at the point now where clearly they are some lingering issues in the room. The team needs to be stripped for parts because they are not winning a cup. The time is this summer while there is still at least some time left on those contracts to maximize return.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I'm at the point now where clearly they are some lingering issues in the room. The team needs to be stripped for parts because they are not winning a cup. The time is this summer while there is still at least some time left on those contracts to maximize return.

I wouldn't have agreed with you a year ago or three months ago, but I do now. The party's over, shut out the lights.

[thurmas]

Originally Posted by esquire

I wouldn't have agreed with you a year ago or three months ago, but I do now. The party's over, shut out the lights.

As esquire's wife likes to say take out the garbage this team is done.

[esquire]

[BlackDog204]

The next four games will be the biggest test the Jets have faced all year. A three game road trip to Florida, Tampa Bay, and Carolina, before returning home to face the mighty Bruins.


The Jets are in free fall, and need a miracle to win more than one game. I really hope Hellebuyck starts to play lights-out again. We really need a hail Mary for this.

[BlackDog204]

Helle is playing great.

36 saves!!

4-3 jets...

Plz let them win.