noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

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We've seen Agriculture Park on NLA. . .

. . .but I believe the following two images of the race track located in the park are new to NLA.


Currently on eBay




This one sold a few weeks ago.


eBay

Note the observation tower. (or is it a water tank?)


If interested:

Here's an earlier post on the Agriculture Park Hotel with Sanborn maps provided by Flyingwedge.


There are probably more posts (on Agriculture Park) that I've overlooked.

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[Snix]

A clearer photo of the menu from Swally's at 2611 E. Olympic (alternately listed as 1331 S. Boyle Ave.) in Boyle Heights has appeared on eBay.


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If this ad is to be believed, Swally's was there from 1928...

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...Until 1972

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Neat insight from this late-in-life profile...
The first "key club" west of the Mississippi? What did this mean in the 30s? The Kiwanis thing?


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Demolished in 1992, and apartments are now on the site.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Hey folks, here's a restaurant we haven't seen on NLA.




eBay

Boyle and Olympic Aves....................................................................................................Los Angeles


It appears to have been just north, and in the shadow, of the monolithic Sears Store.







A closer look.







I wasn't going to post the inside of the menu because it's difficult to read.

.....................................................................................................................................................I changed my mind.


eBay

Now I'm hungry. .......Bon Appetit!


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[riichkay]

Much consternation these days over high DWP bills, seems it was ever thus.....






The collector's notes describe this as "a remarkable polemic map on the back of a 1922 electric bill!"....

From the Persuasive Cartography collection at Cornell....color me impressed that someone has made a study of "Persuasive Cartography".....here's the billing side....

[Snix]

DWARFLAND! I think you've found the best-ever photo of the exhibit set up in the median outside of the Carthay Circle to promote "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs"

https://blog.animationstudies.org/?p=2244





https://filmic-light.blogspot.com/2012/12/dwarfland-at-snow-white-premiere.html

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is such a great photo Godzilla Precarious indeed!
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oldstuff, thanks for background info and house address of the Lampmans in Santa Monica. As always, I appreciate your research.

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Thanks for figuring out the location of the #5 flood snapshot FW. I was stumped.

The ebay seller with the 1934 flood photos also has two 'mystery' photos. (shown below)

"somewhere in Los Angeles"

#1

ebay




#2

ebay

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[Snix]

I wanted to know a little more about that Musso's restaurant in the background of the Dwarfland photos. Owner Joseph L. Musso (1880-1946) was indeed the same Musso of Musso and Frank in Hollywood.

Richard Rovere/Findagrave.com

Los Angeles Evening Citizen News 7.8.46
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He opened Musso's restaurant in a converted house at 6300 Wilshire in 1934

LAT2.19.34

1937
Works Progress Administration Collection/Los Angeles Public Library

A dinner dance for the Los Angeles Chinese Tennis Club at Musso's Restaurant, 1934
Shades of L.A. Collection/Los Angeles Public Library

Patio at night
Security Pacific National Bank Collection/Los Angeles Public Library

Jericlcat/Flickr

Musso's closed in 1939 and reopened as Carder's in early 1940


eBay

https://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.wordpre...rant-118-south-dearborn-menu-cover-1940/
Here's the noirish part. The place is robbed by a mustachioed bandit...

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...and less than two years later, Mr. Musso (I'm presuming the landlord) dies and Carder's becomes Schroeder's restaurant

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Schroeder's lasts a year and is gone

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THEN the place becomes a short-lived art gallery, the Municipal Art Department with an exhibit celebrating the 500th birthday of Leonardo DaVinci

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before a demolition permit is issued in 1953. The land sits empty until
1972 when architect Maxwell Starkman builds the Zenith National Insurance Company building that sits there today.

GSV

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is such a great photo Godzilla Precarious indeed!
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oldstuff, thanks for background info and house address of the Lampmans in Santa Monica. As always, I appreciate your research.

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Thanks for figuring out the location of the #5 flood snapshot FW. I was stumped.

The ebay seller with the 1934 flood photos also has two 'mystery' photos. (shown below)

"somewhere in Los Angeles"

#1

ebay




#2

ebay

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[ethereal_reality]

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Hey noirishers. ..I need some help finding this four three story building that is located somewhere along Heliotrope Drive.



eBay



Reverse.


The photograph was on eBay (along with other 'Payne' photographs of trollies) a few weeks ago. (no longer listed)

for search purposes: A M Payne 6/47
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[HenryHuntington]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Hey noirishers. ..I need some help finding this four three story building that is located somewhere along Heliotrope Drive.



eBay



Reverse.


The photograph was on eBay (along with other 'Payne' photographs of trollies) a few weeks ago. (no longer listed)

for search purposes: A M Payne 6/47
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You rang?

This apartment building actually fronts on Rosewood Ave. (at 4160). The photo shows its southwest corner from Heliotrope Dr.

The LATL H Line car is heading south on Heliotrope toward Beverly Blvd.

And while I'm here, the phtographer was Andres M. "Andy" Payne, who was a streetcar operator for LATL in those days. He was a noted railfan/photographer.

[ethereal_reality]

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Thanks Huntington!


GSV

THis is pretty much the same view as in the Pacific Electric photograph. (April 1947) - from Heliotrope Drive.





Imagine my surprise when I turned the corner at Rosewood Ave. and saw the front of the apartment building.


GSV

Unless I'm mistaken (I'm not) we have visited this building in the past on NLA. If memory serves me there's a photograph of the building before all the ugly stucco was plastered on it.

Does anyone remember the old post


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[ethereal_reality]

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mystery location.


Here's another Pacific Electric photograph recently on eBay. (it's possible we've seen this on NLA in the past)


eBay

Does anyone recognize the restaurant and the cocktail lounge?


reverse


No clues other than the date. . Sept. 2, 1950 (and 977M)



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[HenryHuntington]

The building in the photo is listed these days at 912 S. Hill St. Unfortunately, the City Street Diectories for 1956 and 1960 (closest available) show no listings at all at that address. The first even-numbered listing is Gary's Tux Rental (sign partially visible in the photo) at 914. The building itself still stands as a parking garage with no occupants of the ground floor retail spaces.

Perhps someone with a better monitor than mine can make out the name on the neon sign.

[Mackerm]

The 1956 street directory has a listing at 228 W. 9th St. for Dr. Sherman's Foot Relief Shop, which jibes with the "weak feet" sign

[Lwize]

That Carder's menu makes my eyes water.
$1.75 for a steak dinner in 1940.

The menu also reads 10% service charge and 3% sales tax.

[ethereal_reality]

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E X C E L L E N T posts on DWARFLAND and the restaurants & menus, Snix...I appreciate all the hard work.

And guess what, I have a menu to add to your collection.

We've seen Eleda once way back in 2014. The other day I happened upon a menu for the place on eBay



eBay


A look inside.






Cocktails anyone?



hmm. .did they expect you to send the entire menu in the mail? . . .

. . because if you cut it off at the line above where the postage is supposed to be it wouldn't have the name Eleda on the other side, it would have the lower right side of the menu.

I think the menu designer might have messed up.


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[Engineeral]

I found some old Pacific Electric employee magazines on The Internet Archive. Here's a picture of a nice bridge in Pasadena from 1923. The bridge is still there and looks to be in good condition although you probably can't walk across it any more.

Source: https://archive.org/details/pe-mag-1923-10-oct-10/mode/2up
The magazine has this description:
Cover Illustration
This month's cover picture gives an interesting glimpse of the Colorado Street Bridge, which authorities has proclaimed as an epoch in bridge building, and in which both grace and stability are prominently embodied. This handsome structure completes the connecting link between Pasadena and Glendale and is the open highway to Flintridge and La Canada. From it a most inspiring view can be had of the Arroyo and surrounding territory and visitors to the Southland seldom fail to include it in their itinerary.

The Colorado Street bridge is built of reinforced concrete and is 1468 feet in length. Its height is 144 feet and its greatest span measures 230 feet. It was built jointly by the City of Pasadena and Los Angeles County at a cost of $230,000.

Here is a current Bing Maps oblique view:
https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=f1186a2f-...lvl=19&style=g&pi=0&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027

[Engineeral]

Also from the October 1923 PE employees' magazine at the Internet Archive is this montage of buildings in Fullerton:

Source: https://archive.org/details/pe-mag-1923-10-oct-10/mode/2up
I was able to find one survivor (there may be more). The commercial block in the lower left corner is still standing, and in good shape, at 122 N. Harbor Boulevard (at E. Amerage Avenue):

[nealberke]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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E X C E L L E N T posts on DWARFLAND and the restaurants & menus, Snix...I appreciate all the hard work.

And guess what, I have a menu to add to your collection.

We've seen Eleda once way back in 2014. The other day I happened upon a menu for the place on eBay



eBay


A look inside.






Cocktails anyone?



hmm. .did they expect you to send the entire menu in the mail? . . .

. . because if you cut it off at the line above where the postage is supposed to be it wouldn't have the name Eleda on the other side, it would have the lower right side of the menu.

I think the menu designer might have messed up.


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I can't remember the last time I saw "Barracuda" on a menu. I've not seen "Swordfish" in years. And, I've never seen "Turkey Livers" on a menu. Not giblets, just the livers. I've never been to "Eleda" but I'm sorry they are gone.

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by nealberke

I can't remember the last time I saw "Barracuda" on a menu.

Eating meat from a barracuda longer than 3.5ft in length is not advisable under any circumstances and can cause severe symptoms such as vomiting, nausea, and even diarrhea. Symptoms can start as soon as 3 hours after eating, and can last for 30. If in doubt, do not eat barracuda. If you do not know where it has come from and cannot be sure how large the fish was when it was alive, it is better not to take the chance.

https://catchandfillet.com/can-you-eat-a-barracuda/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciguatera_fish_poisoning
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Ciguatera-Fish-Poisoning.aspx









https://catchandfillet.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Can-You-Eat-a-Barracuda.jpg?ezimgfmt=ng%3Awebp%2Fngcb

[Hollywood Graham]

WOW !!! 3000 pages of pure nostalgia of L.A. and area......Congratulations....

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Engineeral

I found some old Pacific Electric employee magazines on The Internet Archive. Here's a picture of a nice bridge in Pasadena from 1923. The bridge is still there and looks to be in good condition although you probably can't walk across it any more.

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Nice cover photo, Engineeral!

I don't know if you can walk across it any more, or if it's even advisable, but they did film on the bridge in 2016 for a montage sequence in La La Land.



Actually, the La La Land Locations website I got this photo from, HERE, indicates that one can indeed still walk across this bridge.

[Lwize]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

WOW !!! 3000 pages of pure nostalgia of L.A. and area......Congratulations....

It's page 2400.