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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 3:44 AM
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by independent vibes you must mean the beautiful retail street composed of used cars sales lots, gas stations, abestos filled 2 story shacks built from the 70s, and plastic storefront awnings that look like they've never been washed since the day they have been installed. Those are the kind of neighbourhoods I personally aspire to live in.

When I think independent vibes I think mont royal street in montreal, Nobb hill district in portland, Hoboken new jersey, wicker park Chicago, Cardozo neighbourhood in DC. I have to admit, I wasn't prepared for the kind of independent vibes from truck stop Mississippi or suburban strip mall regina. When people say independent vibes I think they meant unique and detail oriented, not miserable and impoverished.
Sad you feel that way Cov.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 4:30 AM
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They're not wrong. Greektown and Burnaby Heights are good examples of low-density villages that could be preserved (and even those are starting to go)... whereas that part of Main has the same kind of generic teardowns as Kingsway or Marpole.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 4:47 AM
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Should I be sad tho? Main st is my hood and I love what's been happening around here. New shops and restaurants are opening every month thanks to new retail spaces that's getting built. Mixed use housing with ground floor retail is replacing shady shacks and ugly parking lots. Ontario green way is getting better. Broadway and Main is getting a metro line. I only see positive prospects.

I'd be sad If my limited imagination made me resent anything that doesn't look like a dying stroad in Saskatoon. The world is only moving away from that in an ever increasing pace.

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 5:18 AM
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Should I be sad tho? Main st is my hood and I love what's been happening around here. New shops and restaurants are opening every month thanks to new retail spaces that's getting built. Mixed use housing with ground floor retail is replacing shady shacks and ugly parking lots. Ontario green way is getting better. Broadway and Main is getting a metro line. I only see positive prospects.

I'd be sad If my limited imagination made me resent anything that doesn't look like a dying stroad in Saskatoon. The world is only moving away from that in an ever increasing pace.
Most restaurants don't want a generic retail space with a blank facade because the message it sends is that their food is generic and bland. That's why East is East dramatically altered that awful facade.

Restaurants will go into the rougher areas of Vancouver, like the DTES because they want a character space.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 6:04 AM
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Most restaurants don't want a generic retail space with a blank facade because the message it sends is that their food is generic and bland. That's why East is East dramatically altered that awful facade.

Restaurants will go into the rougher areas of Vancouver, like the DTES because they want a character space.
I can list numerous restaurants that have been great operating out of new buildings. Como taperia, one of my favorite restaurants in vancouver, has no problem operating out of a new building. Cultivate tea next door is awesome. Itsumo is a great japanese store nearby. Zarak by Afghan Kitchen is dope. My fav viet noodle joint Pho Quynh Express is thriving. Benkai Ramen on cambie is great. Thierry Mount Pleasant is super popular as well. Every new retail venue gives entrepreneurs a chance at creating something new. Some of them may be great, some not so, but at least they had a chance to make their vision come true.

many restaurants also go out of their way to modernize the facade of old retail spaces, like superbaba, published on main, Osteria savio on Kingsway, paul cafe boulangerie on Robson etc. On the other hand, "unique spaces" operate some of the most generic businesses in vancouver, such as brewhall, cartem donuts on main and 6th. Of course I would love high volted brick industrial conversions if vancouver had any.But frankly the standard architecture vancouver inherited looks like this; its both low effort and low quality The generic 70s stroad architecture isn't an inviting restaurant space.

Making sweeping statements like "Most restaurants don't want a generic retail space" is simply false. Great restauranteurs will make any space work if there are young people with disposable income.
Retail rent will also cost less if there is a greater supply of retail venues as well, especially on quieter streets.

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 7:06 AM
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They're not wrong. Greektown and Burnaby Heights are good examples of low-density villages that could be preserved (and even those are starting to go)... whereas that part of Main has the same kind of generic teardowns as Kingsway or Marpole.
The Heights has become a wierd mix of hair salons and dentists.

All these new buildings have made the place stale.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2022, 7:17 AM
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I wouldn't model vancouver after burnaby. There are just so many ways to build great neighbourhoods.

I'm hoping for something like the fulton market in chicago
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8867927,...VRzyxI6aTfvlYeV_waKkA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

or how about the cardozo neighbourhood in DC
https://www.google.ca/maps/@38.9166829,-...6UYW6qpMLYYE7yQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

or new housing developments in portland
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5341222,...xDF4BcAVKnrAO-fROsJ5A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

these streets are filled with unique businesses, pubs, and restaurants. It's not the new building that make the neighbourhood stale. It's the lack of housing squeezing out every last drop of disposable income from young people with new ideas that make businesses stale. The heights, greektown, and main st are all extremely similar and architecturally forgettable at best

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Most restaurants don't want a generic retail space with a blank facade because the message it sends is that their food is generic and bland. That's why East is East dramatically altered that awful facade.

Restaurants will go into the rougher areas of Vancouver, like the DTES because they want a character space.
It really comes down to $psf for rents between old and new spaces. I don't think we've noticed commercial rents on our end for our new product escalating much over the last 4 years.
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I believe this is the 5400 block of Cambie, looking North

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-deleted- post about 1477 W Broadway, which happens to be a 39 storey tower and not a good fit for this thread

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Nice small proposal from Cressey for Commercial & Pender, it looks like this was first proposed back in 2018 with a different architect.
-40 strata units (10 each of studio, 1, 2, and 3 bedroom?)
-10 market rental units
-One level each of office and retail under the rental portion fronting Commercial.

DP application: https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/485-commercial-dr


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Old Posted Dec 17, 2022, 4:27 PM
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A location like that should be at least 8 stories. Doubling the density and adding a coffee shop/bakery on the 1st floor would only improve the character of the area.

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Nice small proposal from Cressey for Commercial & Pender, it looks like this was first proposed back in 2018 with a different architect.
-40 strata units (10 each of studio, 1, 2, and 3 bedroom?)
-10 market rental units
-One level each of office and retail under the rental portion fronting Commercial.

DP application: https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/485-commercial-dr


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Adding a coffee shop/bakery on the 1st floor would only improve the character of the area.
It has a retail unit on the 1st floor, but sensibly they've also included possible office use. There are many other coffee shops to the south along Commercial, and a really good one (Timbertrain Roasters) a block away already on Maclean. It seems likely that a cafe there would struggle, unless they have something that makes the business special. The relatively new Starbucks a block to the west closed over a year ago, and there's been no obvious interest from any other operator to take the space over.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2023, 12:11 AM
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Popolo - 2235 East Broadway

Topped out with a few windows installed. It seems to be stalled but I haven't been watching this one super closely. Social media has been scrubbed.





Graphia - 2450 Garden Dr


Excavation is well underway.


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Popolo - 2235 East Broadway

Topped out with a few windows installed. It seems to be stalled but I haven't been watching this one closely. Social media has been scrubbed.
Their Facebook page shows they started on the framing about six months ago, so if they've hit a snag, it's fairly recent.
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Their Facebook page shows they started on the framing about six months ago, so if they've hit a snag, it's fairly recent.
Could be materials / supply chain. We got hit on our exterior metal panels with a crazy delay. Ended up cancelling and our Client got someone to make them from "scratch" locally here and for cheaper and quicker. Go figure.

We'd be in the same boat as this site I think if it wasn't for that miracle
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^Probably something like that.

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Their Facebook page shows they started on the framing about six months ago, so if they've hit a snag, it's fairly recent.
Yeah and I just found their actual instagram with a post from November. https://www.instagram.com/reel/Clm_d30LtXK/?igshid=OTJlNzQ0NWM=

Just strange to see no signs of any activity.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2023, 2:24 AM
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Kudos to Sanjiv Sandhu of Point Grey Developments for rescuing this character house from Pendrell and moving it to anchor their development on the 400 block of East 5th:
New link: https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...r-old-west-end-house-from-the-demolition

The house is still sitting in a parking lot on Industrial Ave while the 400 block of East 5th project is complete as Block 1910 by Hudson Projects. I sure hope that it's not going to sit and rot until it falls apart.
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New link: https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...r-old-west-end-house-from-the-demolition

The house is still sitting in a parking lot on Industrial Ave while the 400 block of East 5th project is complete as Block 1910 by Hudson Projects. I sure hope that it's not going to sit and rot until it falls apart.
The Pendrell House is from 1905, and Block 1910 (414 East 5th) includes the restoration of the McConaghy House, an Edwardian home constructed by John McConaghy in 1910.

The Sun said article the 1905 house was moving to the 400 block of East 5th, but it didn't say it was going to the Block 1910 project, and it wasn't shown on the 2017 Development application. I can't see where else the house could go on that block, so maybe that idea fell through.
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