Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[Schmoe]

Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

Any new large projects on the horizon or even some wiffs? No need for specifics, wink if you can

I think it's well known that we own more property downtown, and we are definitely planning to develop it. It just is not soon enough for many forumers.

[Reeder113]

Originally Posted by TheGeographer

And as Reeder pointed out there were a few wet years since 2000. But the other 15 of the 20 years were dry.....

That's not entirely true. This graph from the USDA shows the snow water equivalent in Utah going back to the year 2000. As I already mentioned, about 8 of those years were well above average (including this year, so far). Of the remaining years, it's pretty evenly split between "average" and "below average." Here's the graph from the USDA showing the SWE from 2000-2023:

[Utah_Dave]

Originally Posted by Schmoe

I think it's well known that we own more property downtown, and we are definitely planning to develop it. It just is not soon enough for many forumers.

Awesome, thank you. Let us know when you want us to submit our wish list

[msbutah]

KUTV's overlords changed some networking security parameters and so I am no longer able to upload from the tower camera to my domain. Sorry.

[Paniolo Man]

Originally Posted by Reeder113

Not sure about the agricultural industry, but here's an executive order he issued regarding the Great Salt Lake:

https://governor.utah.gov/2023/02/03...causeway-berm/

Raising the berm is more of a salinity management move than a water level move. We have our work cut out for us with GSL but state leadership is wholly unwilling to do anything actually meaningful to raise the lake level.

[Paniolo Man]

Originally Posted by Reeder113

That's not entirely true. This graph from the USDA shows the snow water equivalent in Utah going back to the year 2000. As I already mentioned, about 8 of those years were well above average (including this year, so far). Of the remaining years, it's pretty evenly split between "average" and "below average." Here's the graph from the USDA showing the SWE from 2000-2023:

I can't say for certain because I don't know which graph this is, but plenty of these USDA graphs use a 20 year average baseline so it goes to figure plenty of years in that time will be above average.

[dakben]

Originally Posted by msbutah

KUTV's overlords changed some networking security parameters and so I am no longer able to upload from the tower camera to my domain. Sorry.

But here's what it looks like today:

[Reeder113]

Originally Posted by dakben

But here's what it looks like today:

Very nice shot! Is this from the cam that nobody can access (except for maybe you, apparently)?

[Ironweed]

Slightly confused about the Astra photo.

I do not recall seeing the large concrete panels
in the original rendering. The versions online
have windows instead.

Are these to be placed elsewhere, or they part of a new
plan?

Thanks.

[Reeder113]

Originally Posted by Paniolo Man

I can't say for certain because I don't know which graph this is, but plenty of these USDA graphs use a 20 year average baseline so it goes to figure plenty of years in that time will be above average.

Here's the source:

https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/W...e_of_utah.html

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

Slightly confused about the Astra photo.

I do not recall seeing the large concrete panels
in the original rendering. The versions online
have windows instead.

Are these to be placed elsewhere, or they part of a new
plan?

Thanks.

They're wind barriers for workers

[i2theSKY]

I wouldn't say it's entirely fair to say the governor has done nothing. In this article he is proposing a plan that would pay farmers to not grow crops among other things. https://www.fox13now.com/news/great-...reat-salt-lake

[i2theSKY]

Astra looks to be moving at a pretty good pace. Once it moves beyond the L shape I think it's likely to go even faster! Question for Schmoe, how long before we start seeing glass?

[SLCHenry]

Originally Posted by Schmoe

I think it's well known that we own more property downtown, and we are definitely planning to develop it. It just is not soon enough for many forumers.

Not soon enough is right, but thank you! Which of the lots has a better chance of seeing a new tower? At least we have Astra coming our way. Hope it fills up fast with residents.

[delts145]

There's the corner of West Temple and 4th South. Also, the next phase of the West Quarter on 1st South, and then there's the site just west of Harmon's. Also, the Hines Theater Tower and The Peg Tower, both on Main. One or two of those should get going by this Spring. No new tallest but all attractive towers.

[TheGeographer]

Originally Posted by Reeder113

That's not entirely true. This graph from the USDA shows the snow water equivalent in Utah going back to the year 2000. As I already mentioned, about 8 of those years were well above average (including this year, so far). Of the remaining years, it's pretty evenly split between "average" and "below average." Here's the graph from the USDA showing the SWE from 2000-2023:

Precipitation is only part of the equation. So you’re right about half the years were okay precipitation wise, but if you look at the Palmer drought severity index it paints a different picture. Rising temperatures have offset precipitation gains (more evaporation, earlier snowmelt and peak streamflow, drier soils, etc.). In addition to our current drought, you’ll see the 50s drought in the time series which lead to the 60s Great Salt Lake low stand. Take a look at this link.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/mon.../1/1/1895-2022

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by UtahBison

I am by no means an expert, but these sound possible. Though, I am thinking of all the red tape that could stop this from happening. I also think that as long as Gov. Cox is the governor no changes regarding water and farming are going to happen. He's from rural Utah with farming roots. I'm sure he will protect farmers to no end.

He's not just from farming roots. He is literally himself an alfalfa farmer.

"Cox says it’s ‘ignorant’ to believe cutting water to farms is the answer to the drought"

He's a moron.

www.sltrib.com

[Reeder113]

Originally Posted by TheGeographer

Precipitation is only part of the equation. So you’re right about half the years were okay precipitation wise, but if you look at the Palmer drought severity index it paints a different picture. Rising temperatures have offset precipitation gains (more evaporation, earlier snowmelt and peak streamflow, drier soils, etc.). In addition to our current drought, you’ll see the 50s drought in the time series which lead to the 60s Great Salt Lake low stand. Take a look at this link.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/mon.../1/1/1895-2022

Correct. I was only responding to the part where you said “there were a few wet years since 2000. But the other 15 of the 20 years were dry.....”

[Blah_Amazing]

https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Cit...howInspection=

Address: 2157 S Lincoln Street

The Basics: 1.94 acres. 6 floors, 238 residential units, 239 parking spaces, and the preservation of an existing Victorian house.

Project Narrative (From Developer): The SUGAR HOUSE development, located on a 1.94 acre parcel in Salt Lake City, includes the design and development of approximately 238 Market Rate Apartments of Type IIIA, wood framed construction wrapping a mechanically-ventilated cast in place concrete parking structure with approximately 239 parking spaces and over 10,000 SF of activated ground floor use including leasing, office, and amenity spaces. Unit designs will include a total of 17 base unit types with required variations based on skin condition. A natural building material selection was made to help integrate the development into the existing surrounding fabric, and to continue to promote the objectives of health, wellness, and outdoors. Units will have high end finishes along with precise attention to detail to help cater to the outdoor and wellness enthusiasts. The development will have an inviting and elegant leasing lobby that directly flows into the clubroom amenity space that encourages it’s patrons to enjoy the offerings of the development. Adjacent to the clubroom is a spacious and well equipped gear room that the tenants can maintain and store their outdoor gear with ease before they embark on an adventure and when they return. Above the podium level is a spacious and optimally equipped fitness center with amazing views of the Wasatch mountains to the East. With a main focus of the project being health, wellness, and outdoor activity driven, the fitness center has large floor to ceiling doors that open up to further make the connection to the outdoors and fresh air. Directly adjacent to the fitness center is a large and tranquil courtyard deck that allows gathering of any kind or smaller nooks for seclusion and relaxation. If you find yourself not getting enough of the views to the Wasatch mountains there is a sixth (6th) floor sky deck that provides indoor and outdoors gathering spaces and high elevation views over the Sugar House neighborhood and Salt Lake valley. The pool courtyard will be on grade, and provide for a relaxing and perfect way to end a long day outside and in nature. The pool deck will also be accompanied with a cold plunge, hot tub and sauna. To promote wellness, this unique project is also fortunate enough to preserve and re-use the Victorian home on site in order to help promote the existing connection to the residential neighbors to the South while also honoring the rich history the house has to offer for the Sugar House community and it’s future patrons.

Project Renderings and Images:

Floor Plans & Building Sections:

[Jbash]

Not sure about you guys but I really like that actually, it looks nice. And incorporating that old Vic house is amazing, that will be a beautiful space