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Old Posted Jan 29, 2023, 10:54 AM
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80 km/h I imagine. I'll ask my inside source and see if they know.
While I’m aware that the speed limit on the divided 4 lanes coming out of Golden towards Yoho is 80 km/h, I wonder whether that limit is temporary. You don’t want people doing 100 km/h right before all the sharp twists and turns, all of which are being eliminated with this phase of twinning. With them gone, I don’t see reasons to keep the speed limit at 80 km/h.
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Could anyone tell us what the speed limits are/will be for the Kicking Horse Canyon Hwy 1 improvements?
100 km I believe, which is the standard for all new 4 lane sections of the trans Canada in BC.

It goes down to 80 in “urban zones” if there are signalized intersections.
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80 km/h I imagine. I'll ask my inside source and see if they know.
It might be even be 120 km//hr. BC does have higher speed limits on their divided highways outside of the urban areas. It should be at least 100km/hr.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2023, 9:18 PM
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It might be even be 120 km//hr. BC does have higher speed limits on their divided highways outside of the urban areas. It should be at least 100km/hr.
I’ve heard that B.C. designs the divided TCH to only 100 km/h though, so I highly doubt they’ll post 120 km/h.
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My money is on 100km/hr like the other phases of KHC.
     
     
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It's not a full freeway and I've read in some documents that the plan is for a maximum of 100 km/h for the entire Kicking Horse project area.
     
     
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100 km/h is still a substantial upgrade for the area. I don't remember the posted speed limit (~80 km/h), but when you account for the corners the average travel speed ranged closer to 40-60 km/h. I remember a friend from college who was travelling home overnight from Alberta to the coast and was used to a lot of mountain driving, he said he attempted driving the Kicking Horse Canyon at the then-posted speed limit and felt it was too fast for his liking.
     
     
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100 km/h is still a substantial upgrade for the area. I don't remember the posted speed limit (~80 km/h), but when you account for the corners the average travel speed ranged closer to 40-60 km/h. I remember a friend from college who was travelling home overnight from Alberta to the coast and was used to a lot of mountain driving, he said he attempted driving the Kicking Horse Canyon at the then-posted speed limit and felt it was too fast for his liking.
Similar to how Highway 3 through most of BC goes, the speed limit didn't change for the twists and turns but there was lots of curve warning speed signs so you weren't probably going to try to hit 80.
     
     
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100 km/h is still a substantial upgrade for the area. I don't remember the posted speed limit (~80 km/h), but when you account for the corners the average travel speed ranged closer to 40-60 km/h. I remember a friend from college who was travelling home overnight from Alberta to the coast and was used to a lot of mountain driving, he said he attempted driving the Kicking Horse Canyon at the then-posted speed limit and felt it was too fast for his liking.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@51.2955124,-...IToMYlRsPt1suDw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Looks like it is posted at 50km/hr.
If I remember it had a 60km/hr speed before construction.
     
     
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100 km/h is still a substantial upgrade for the area. I don't remember the posted speed limit (~80 km/h), but when you account for the corners the average travel speed ranged closer to 40-60 km/h. I remember a friend from college who was travelling home overnight from Alberta to the coast and was used to a lot of mountain driving, he said he attempted driving the Kicking Horse Canyon at the then-posted speed limit and felt it was too fast for his liking.
The remaining section to be four laned through Kicking Horse Canyon is definitely somewhere where 80 km/h is way too fast for those sharp bends. I think I was going 50 or 60.
     
     
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Looks like it is posted at 50km/hr.
If I remember it had a 60km/hr speed before construction.
60 km/h is for the stretch through Golden. Once you’re out of Golden heading east, it becomes 80 km/h.
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60 km/h is for the stretch through Golden. Once you’re out of Golden heading east, it becomes 80 km/h.
I guess you could say once you are out of town... you're Golden

     
     
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I guess you could say once you are out of town... you're Golden


Remember, only heading east, though, not west.
Also, people need to increase pressure on the federal government (or Parks Canada) to address that death trap that’s called Yoho N.P.

Ps: Maybe it should be renamed as Yolo N.P.
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Remember, only heading east, though, not west.
Also, people need to increase pressure on the federal government (or Parks Canada) to address that death trap that’s called Yoho N.P.

Ps: Maybe it should be renamed as Yolo N.P.
Isn't that what is being fixed?
     
     
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KHC yes; the remainder through Yoho, I don’t know how serious Parks Canada is about that one.
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are you talking about the section near Field?
     
     
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are you talking about the section near Field?
Not just that; the remaining 40 km of undivided roadway through the park
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^Yes, the remaining 40kms to be twinned through Yoho.
Basically it boils down to this from a Dec. 2022 CBC article:

The federal government allocated $85.9 million in 2016 to upgrade a portion of the Trans-Canada Highway within Yoho National Park and also begin a design, consultation and environmental assessment. A six-kilometre stretch of the Trans-Canada in Yoho National Park was twinned in 2018.

Consultation and a draft impact assessment on twinning the remaining the 40-kilometre section were finished in 2021.

"Funding has not yet been allocated for the initial construction phase of this project," Suzanne White with Parks Canada said in a statement. "Parks Canada anticipates that highway twinning will be undertaken in a phased approach and take place over several years.


And so, we continue to wait.
     
     
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I guess you could say once you are out of town... you're Golden

Yeah, but it's way, way beyond Hope.
     
     
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yeah, but it's way, way beyond hope.
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