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Speaking of hotels that should be redeveloped: The Shoreham on 55th between 5th and 6th sits on very prime land, but its utter is crap.
In the future, any buildings you wish to see replaced can be discussed in the thread below….

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A good angled view showing the hotel (center) and its surroundings...



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If only we could get a facadectomy and build the new tower behind the classic hotel facade. The hotel holds the streetwall perfectly and the this new one treats it like a Gene Kaufmann hotel podium, except with a very skinny Pelli tower on it
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Yeah I really don't want to see this get demolished.
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If only we could get a facadectomy and build the new tower behind the classic hotel facade. The hotel holds the streetwall perfectly and the this new one treats it like a Gene Kaufmann hotel podium, except with a very skinny Pelli tower on it
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Can't wait till this dumpy hotel is demolished.

This portion of 7th Ave. is dark and depressing with the aging dowager hotels. Some new blood, please. This is Billionaire's Row, steps to Central Park. A few new supertalls, please. There will still be a bunch of brooding old hotels.
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I think that the Wellington is a nice old building. I’m curious to see what Barnett comes up with.

I’m also very curious what he’s doing with his empty lot across the street.

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the wellington exterior is classic gotham, but not memorable.

barnett will do right by the site with a decent, skinny supertall.

i will miss that whole/full intersection being hardcore gothic gotham though.
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the wellington exterior is classic gotham, but not memorable.

barnett will do right by the site with a decent, skinny supertall.

i will miss that whole/full intersection being hardcore gothic gotham though.
Let’s keep our fingers crossed. His plans for 570 Fifth are underwhelming.
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https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2023/04/17/extell-plans-new-hotel-at-shuttered-wellington/

Extell plans new hotel at shuttered Wellington
City permitting requirement makes it harder to build new hotels






By Orion Jones
April 17, 2023


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Garry Barnett’s Extell Development is planning a hotel at the site of the Wellington, a century-old building near Billionaire’s Row that provided rooms to the homeless during the DeBlasio administration.

Plans made public on Monday by the Department of Buildings suggest the developer will renovate the hotel rather than construct another towering edifice near Central Park South, like the developer’s Central Park Tower or One57 — both condominium buildings.

The proposed hotel, with 214,000 square feet of floor area across 27 stories, closely matches the existing structure and comes as the city’s permitting guidelines for new hotels has throttled supply.

The hotel will include ground-floor retail and business amenities such as a banquet room, commercial kitchen and a lecture hall. Floors 8 to 27 will be used exclusively as a hotel.
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Months after Extell agreed to buy the property’s leasehold for $94 million, fee owner Richard Born’s BD Hotels received approval from the city to renovate the building’s first 12 stories, including demolishing at least half of the building’s floor area.

The city’s permit requirement would kick in for a renovation if its floor area is increased by 20 percent or more, or if the hotel had been out of use for two consecutive years. The Wellington closed about a year into the pandemic, following a stint as a homeless shelter in 2018.

The hotel, known by travelers for its moderate prices and 600 tiny guest rooms, provided lodging to travelers in Midtown. It is unclear how many rooms the new hotel will offer.
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https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news...llington-hotel-demolition-mixed-use.html

Extell to demolish Wellington Hotel for new mixed-use tower in Midtown Manhattan


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Feb 28, 2025


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Gary Barnett's Extell Development Co. is looking to demolish a property that formerly housed Midtown Manhattan's Wellington Hotel in order to make way for a 716-foot-tall hotel and residential development.

Extell filed plans to raze a three-building site at 859 to 867 7th Ave. and 147 W. 55th St. as part of the development of a 457,000-square-foot, 54-story building with both residential and hotel units, according to Department of Buildings records made public last week.

Extell's new mixed-use hotel tower would have 257,000 square feet of residential space and 63,000 square feet of commercial space, records show.
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The new tower's first 10 floors would be used for hotel space, storage, ground-level retail, a parking garage, restaurant space and recreation space. Floors 11 through 54 would house apartment units, except for two floors used for storage and mechanical purposes, records show. Recreation space is proposed for the rooftop of the building.

The demolition of the three-building Midtown site will cost at least $7 million, according to the records information made available. Extell is working on the demo with Ancora Engineering and working with architecture firm Beyer Blinder Belle on the new mixed-use building.

Altogether, Extell will demolish more than 300,000 square feet of building space to make way for its new hotel and residential development. A chute will be built to lower demolition debris from the higher levels of the Wellington Hotel's property, which reached nearly 300 feet.
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That's interesting. I thought that Gary had changed his mind and was going to refurbish the old hotel.

Did Extell sell the empty lot on the NW corner of 7th and 55th? It would be nice for that to be developed.
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With Extell, its always tough to say exactly what will rise from early filings. Trying to get a sense of what they will build here. We know it will be condo/hotel, but as far as design, nothing really.





















Early filings from a year or two ago show only a 27-story building. But that has since been upgraded, and could be upgraded further still.

















Clear path for park views....



















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I like the buildings on this site.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Barnett was negotiating to buy potential air rights to add here, as he did with 740 8th Avenue. It's in the theater subdistrict, where you can transfer theater air rights to any location within the district, similar to landmarks transfers in Midtown East.



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So, the FAA application seems to suggest Extell is building yet another supertall in Manhattan.


https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=653044868&row=0





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Structure Type: High Rise/Sky Scraper

Structure Height: 1045
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I was not expecting that! If Extell is building a supertall on 7th Avenue, I’d suspect that they’ll build much higher than 1,045 on Madison. They can print money at 655 Madison. Hopefully, they’ll try to build even taller than Related.
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unsurprising but welcomed. Extell is known to bait and switch heights like at 50 w 66th.
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Wow!!!!

Extell is the best developer on the planet.

Yet another supertall for Manhattan.

Truly incredible.
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Wow, another Midtown supertall. Extell delivers again!

This will help tie Billionaires Row and Times Square together. Also not far away from Extell's other neighborhood supertall, on Eighth Ave. The two towers may rise simultaneously.
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