HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Never Built & Visionary Projects > Cancelled Project Threads Archive


 

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #61  
Old Posted Jan 17, 2023, 8:21 PM
PHLtoNYC PHLtoNYC is offline
Chris
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut View Post
In its current form, yes. An overbuild would be possible though, right? Overall I'm glad to see these stick around
Agree. Plenty of other developable parcels nearby.
     
     
  #62  
Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 2:35 PM
SJPhillyBoy's Avatar
SJPhillyBoy SJPhillyBoy is offline
Hello
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: SJ to Philly
Posts: 2,631
The preservation is great news.
     
     
  #63  
Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 3:05 PM
Justin7 Justin7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 863
Thank you, Preservation Alliance!
     
     
  #64  
Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 3:49 PM
McBane McBane is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 3,718
These buildings are definitely handsome and obviously old. But it appears they were never considered historic on their own merits until the demolition permit was obtained. Not a fan of this approach. On the other hand, I'm glad they were preserved simply because I'm not convinced a tower would have been imminently built.

There has to be a happy medium between ad hoc preservation to stop development and allowing builders to demolish first and then get their financing and everything else in order later.
     
     
  #65  
Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 4:31 PM
mcgrath618's Avatar
mcgrath618 mcgrath618 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Clark Park, Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by McBane View Post
These buildings are definitely handsome and obviously old. But it appears they were never considered historic on their own merits until the demolition permit was obtained. Not a fan of this approach. On the other hand, I'm glad they were preserved simply because I'm not convinced a tower would have been imminently built.

There has to be a happy medium between ad hoc preservation to stop development and allowing builders to demolish first and then get their financing and everything else in order later.
I think it’s simply that not enough buildings worthy of preservation have been nominated yet. Anyone in the city can nominate any property for preservation as long as they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it meets one of the reasons for being preserved.
__________________
Philadelphia Transportation Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=164129
     
     
  #66  
Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 4:38 PM
UrbanRevival UrbanRevival is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 484
Quote:
Originally Posted by McBane View Post
These buildings are definitely handsome and obviously old. But it appears they were never considered historic on their own merits until the demolition permit was obtained. Not a fan of this approach.
That just means that preservation approaches need to be beefed up and much more aggressive, not that the buildings themselves were not inherently worthy of being saved.

This is exactly the kind of urban fabric that Philadelphia has to be very careful to maintain as time and development marches on for its own competitive "sense of place" advantage.

I'll say it again and again: people don't come and grow an attachment to Philadelphia for its gleaming modernity, sexy beaches and glamourous lifestyle. They come to Philadelphia and grow to love Philadelphia for its history and intimate, human-scaled "sense of place," which is arguably unmatched at Philadelphia's scale anywhere else in the US. That is the city's ace.

When considered in that light, well-preserved historic fabric is a massive asset and absolutely not expendable. It's literally Philadelphia's competitive advantage.
     
     
  #67  
Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 7:25 PM
PurpleWhiteOut PurpleWhiteOut is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 795
Quote:
Originally Posted by McBane View Post
There has to be a happy medium between ad hoc preservation to stop development and allowing builders to demolish first and then get their financing and everything else in order later.
The happy medium would be the government getting off its ass and taking a historic inventory like Kenny said they would forever ago. (not related to these) but I also don't see why we don't automatically bring in the national historic register. We've lost a lot that was on the national register and that seems like an easy get
     
     
  #68  
Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 4:31 PM
SEFTA's Avatar
SEFTA SEFTA is offline
Philly Pholly
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,286
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanRevival View Post
That just means that preservation approaches need to be beefed up and much more aggressive, not that the buildings themselves were not inherently worthy of being saved.

This is exactly the kind of urban fabric that Philadelphia has to be very careful to maintain as time and development marches on for its own competitive "sense of place" advantage.

I'll say it again and again: people don't come and grow an attachment to Philadelphia for its gleaming modernity, sexy beaches and glamourous lifestyle. They come to Philadelphia and grow to love Philadelphia for its history and intimate, human-scaled "sense of place," which is arguably unmatched at Philadelphia's scale anywhere else in the US. That is the city's ace.

When considered in that light, well-preserved historic fabric is a massive asset and absolutely not expendable. It's literally Philadelphia's competitive advantage.
Money spent on tourism is money returned.
Philly has a huge future with tourism and every street in Center City should be treated as a photo-op.
Beautification and infrastructure.
I think this is an exciting time for Philly.
I really can't think of any place that has what Philly has.
COMPLETELY WALKABLE
This was a great move. Such handsome buildings in a strategic location that's lost much history.
__________________
Smart Cities
     
     
  #69  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2023, 4:48 PM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,398
Newly Designated Historic Buildings Will Stick Around at 17th & Race

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...d-at-17th-race
     
     
  #70  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2023, 4:48 PM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,398
This is officially dead. Moving this thread to Never Built.
     
     
End
 
 
 

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Never Built & Visionary Projects > Cancelled Project Threads Archive
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 6:06 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.