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My guess is that the project was originally planned as residential hence the balconies and later changed to hotel. That would also explain the mixed info in the listed uses.
Yah, agreed. Will be really interested to see what the new plans look like. They may be able to tell us more about the brand, too.

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New elevations from December. It still has balconies.



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This is another Lincoln Ventures project. That alone gives me a lot of confidence in this project.
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Hm. Still a hotel. I’m not fully convinced but they seem to be plowing forward regardless. The next thing I’ll be interested to see resolve (aside from the balcony thing) is what’s contained in that podium. Most hotels of this size would need a couple of ballroom levels, as well as significant back of house space for kitchens, storage, laundry, offices, etc. not to mention enough parking to support 500+ rooms.

Compare to the Austin Marriott Downtown, with 600 rooms, which has seven podium floors, plus several underground parking levels. This looks somewhat comparable above ground, but we need more info on parking.

EDIT: this one is going to be significantly taller than some of the larger (by room count) hotels downtown. The Marriott is ‘386, the JW is ‘406. This one slots in just under the Fairmont, which is ‘456 before the spire.

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It looks as if the west end of the rooftop could be a bar/restaurant of some sort?
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Maybe it's an STR Condo Hotel type concept like Natiivo. ie. it's really apartments but has to file under hotel occupancy to meet code. Looks really low budget though. That is a lot of EIFS!
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Maybe it's an STR Condo Hotel type concept like Natiivo. ie. it's really apartments but has to file under hotel occupancy to meet code. Looks really low budget though. That is a lot of EIFS!
I also think it could potentially be two or three select service brands under one roof — like Aloft/Element. So no real need for meeting space, and the podium could be 90% parking, and the rest for back of the house and/or amenities.

What’s EIFS?
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Maybe it's an STR Condo Hotel type concept like Natiivo. ie. it's really apartments but has to file under hotel occupancy to meet code. Looks really low budget though. That is a lot of EIFS!
Being a layperson, I had to look up EIFS. I found this out at wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exteri...nishing_system
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a.k.a. poverty siding on this forum I believe...

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Being a layperson, I had to look up EIFS. I found this out at wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exteri...nishing_system
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Wow, TOTALLY not what I thought it would be.

https://austin.towers.net/experienti...ation-district

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Looks great pre-value engineering.
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And those balconies are really real!
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Looks great pre-value engineering.
What do you think could be cut from the design? It looks fairly simple but handsome in the render. Not having greenery on the parking mesh?
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What do you think could be cut from the design? It looks fairly simple but handsome in the render. Not having greenery on the parking mesh?
The brick covering the parking structure, some amenities and flattening out the top. Facade screams West Campus to me but I find it neat overall, something different for Downtown. The greenery will likely grow in later on.
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Maybe it's an STR Condo Hotel type concept like Natiivo. ie. it's really apartments but has to file under hotel occupancy to meet code. Looks really low budget though. That is a lot of EIFS!
Called it!
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It's about what I expected, from the elevations. For those of us who complain about too many blue boxes I'll just say this: be careful what you ask for - you may get it.

On the other hand, I've never seen so many people using their balconies at the same time...
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It's about what I expected, from the elevations. For those of us who complain about too many blue boxes I'll just say this: be careful what you ask for - you may get it.

On the other hand, I've never seen so many people using their balconies at the same time...
Or so many standing around a credit union drive-through. Maybe the fire alarm at Velocity is going off, and everyone is out on their balconies trying to see what all the sirens are about. That would explain all the smoke obscuring the Capitol.
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Project Type: Multifamily

Location: 708 East 12 St. | Austin, TX

Units: 527

Square Feet: 853,633 SF

Delivery Year: 2026

Sabine Tower is a multifamily development located in Downtown Austin’s Innovation District.

The Innovation District is a public-private partnership, anchored by The University of Texas, to create a national center for health technology. The district’s goal is to encourage collaboration between The University of Texas, Dell Medical School, startups, and private industry with the desired result of turning new ideas and research into products. The district will feature 1.2 million SF of office and 90,000 SF of lab space.

The project is a 39-story multifamily development with 527 units, totaling over 850,000 square feet.






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Some minor tweaks. I have it as gaining a floor and losing 9'. New renderings and elevations for Monday's DC meeting:

https://services.austintexas.gov/edi....cfm?id=410545
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