Dead Malls of Canada - Page 74

MolsonExport · #**1461** Posted **Dec 16, 2022, 1:44 PM**

Icing on a dog turd.

esquire · #**1462** Posted **Dec 16, 2022, 3:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

This is in the ugly apartment towers behind the Ft Garry hotel?

Yessir.

Acajack · #**1463** Posted **Dec 16, 2022, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Presenting the obscure-even-in-Winnipeg Fort Garry Place mall. It's downtown, in the podium of a large apartment tower complex. It was built at the tail end of the 1980s development boom.

The developer went all out and designed something straight out of your grandmother's dreams. I guess it was supposed to be a high end fashion mall, but it never took off. It had a few mom and pop stores, but now most of the space has been converted to offices. Ironically, the City of Winnipeg's planning department is one of the main tenants.

This picture shows you roughly half of it.

It's actually potentially beautiful.

Reminds me a bit of Les Cours Mont-Royal just off Ste-Catherine in downtown Montreal.

https://www.google.com/search?q=les+cour...Q_AUoA3oECAEQBQ&biw=1280&bih=577&dpr=1.5

MolsonExport · #**1464** Posted **Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM**

^it looks like a thin veneer of pseudo beauty. Unlike les Cours Mont-Royal, which was an elegant, upscale hotel before its transmogrification into expensive shops

esquire · #**1465** Posted **Dec 16, 2022, 9:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

^it looks like a thin veneer of pseudo beauty. Unlike les Cours Mont-Royal, which was an elegant, upscale hotel before its transmogrification into expensive shops

"Thin veneer of pseudo beauty" is the perfect description to use here

SteelTown · #**1466** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 2:22 AM**

After Boxing Day, Hamilton City Centre, aka Eaton Centre, will officially be a dead mall as it'll be permanently closed. Demolition supposes to start in the new year.

Farewell City Centre!

Source: https://twitter.com/urbanicityHAM

It'll be replaced with four residential buildings.

More info: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192355&page=21

casper · #**1467** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 6:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

^it looks like a thin veneer of pseudo beauty. Unlike les Cours Mont-Royal, which was an elegant, upscale hotel before its transmogrification into expensive shops

I think you just described half the building is Las Vegas. Only problem with the strategy is Winnipeg is no Las Vegas.

Acajack · #**1468** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

"Thin veneer of pseudo beauty" is the perfect description to use here

I'd probably have to see it up close to make up my mind on that.

But I don't automatically think that anything like this that is recent and new is crap.

In the minority on here I realize.

Loco101 · #**1469** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 3:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I'd probably have to see it up close to make up my mind on that.

But I don't automatically think that anything like this that is recent and new is crap.

In the minority on here I realize.

I agree with you.

It would make a good venue for parties, corporate events, wedding receptions and more. I wonder what the acoustics are like. It could even be used for concerts, musicals and plays if the sound is good.

zahav · #**1470** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

After Boxing Day, Hamilton City Centre, aka Eaton Centre, will officially be a dead mall as it'll be permanently closed. Demolition supposes to start in the new year.

Farewell City Centre!

Source: https://twitter.com/urbanicityHAM

It'll be replaced with four residential buildings.

More info: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192355&page=21

One of the hallmarks for me feeling older as I approach 40 is the way I look at "old" buildings like malls. That photo of the Hamilton mall atrium in full Crystal Light Strawberry Kiwi colour palette is so familiar for anyone my age or older. Those were the new, modern malls, and I still didn't look at them as "old" even recently. But looking at that photo, all cleared out and devoid of life, it really looks old. I can't even imagine how old it must seem to teenagers or kids in their early 20s. But something seems so wasteful still about demolishing buildings from the 90s, seems too soon. But it shouldn't, logically, because a 1990 building is 32 years old. And in 1990, that would be like a building from 1958, same time span. So what I looked as seeming so old in 1990 (something from the 50s) would be the same as kids seeing 1990 as ancient. So strange when that realization hits lol

esquire · #**1471** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 9:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I'd probably have to see it up close to make up my mind on that.

But I don't automatically think that anything like this that is recent and new is crap.

In the minority on here I realize.

I get what you're saying. Something like this can be tastefully and elegantly done, even if it wasn't necessarily the height of then-current design trends.

But Fort Garry Place's mall is just shit workmanship and design. Some of the walls in that mall are just painted cinder blocks. Right next to glass elevators and porcelain chandeliers that must have cost a fortune. It makes no sense.

esquire · #**1472** Posted **Dec 17, 2022, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

I agree with you.

It would make a good venue for parties, corporate events, wedding receptions and more. I wonder what the acoustics are like. It could even be used for concerts, musicals and plays if the sound is good.

I'm not sure if it ever gets used for those purposes, but here's a local commercial that was filmed in there a few years ago

• Video Link

MolsonExport · #**1473** Posted **Dec 18, 2022, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

After Boxing Day, Hamilton City Centre, aka Eaton Centre, will officially be a dead mall as it'll be permanently closed. Demolition supposes to start in the new year.

Farewell City Centre!

Source: https://twitter.com/urbanicityHAM

It'll be replaced with four residential buildings.

More info: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192355&page=21

a great replacement for a dead mall

acottawa · #**1474** Posted **Dec 18, 2022, 8:45 PM**

The turquoise and pink looks horribly out of date, I think it was the nicest of the smaller “Eaton Centres” in SW Ontario.

WhipperSnapper · #**1475** Posted **Dec 18, 2022, 10:53 PM**

It's sad to see such a bland replacement (architecture, built form, whatever) for the albeit trendy 1990s design and a failing commercial mall.

WhipperSnapper · #**1476** Posted **Dec 18, 2022, 10:57 PM**

I was wrong. I cheacked out the Fort Garry Place apartments. They aren't just a flat stucco finish.

Winnpeg has a few 1960s/70s apartment blocks with classical oddities. Fort Garry Place was the crowning achievement for the developer and that developer is one of the most prolific developers in Winnipeg. Perhaps he is behind them all.

J.OT13 · #**1477** Posted **Dec 19, 2022, 5:32 PM**

When we went to Winnipeg a few years ago, ort Garry Place Mall confused me to no end. Was it "modern", was it a heritage building? Did they build towers on top of a heritage building? The outside is even more confusing.

http://wikimapia.org/1419489/Fort-Garry-Place

J.OT13 · #**1478** Posted **Dec 19, 2022, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by zahav

One of the hallmarks for me feeling older as I approach 40 is the way I look at "old" buildings like malls. That photo of the Hamilton mall atrium in full Crystal Light Strawberry Kiwi colour palette is so familiar for anyone my age or older. Those were the new, modern malls, and I still didn't look at them as "old" even recently. But looking at that photo, all cleared out and devoid of life, it really looks old. I can't even imagine how old it must seem to teenagers or kids in their early 20s. But something seems so wasteful still about demolishing buildings from the 90s, seems too soon. But it shouldn't, logically, because a 1990 building is 32 years old. And in 1990, that would be like a building from 1958, same time span. So what I looked as seeming so old in 1990 (something from the 50s) would be the same as kids seeing 1990 as ancient. So strange when that realization hits lol

Our work had a service recognition ceremony last week. Whenever they say 30 years of service, I think of the 1970s.

esquire · #**1479** Posted **Dec 19, 2022, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

When we went to Winnipeg a few years ago, ort Garry Place Mall confused me to no end. Was it "modern", was it a heritage building? Did they build towers on top of a heritage building? The outside is even more confusing.

http://wikimapia.org/1419489/Fort-Garry-Place

I can't remember exactly when it opened, but it was sometime in either 1990 or 1991. One of the last big downtown projects before downtown Winnipeg went to sleep for at least a decade.

The whole thing was built around that time, nothing in that complex is old.

The developer had a thing for that kind of look... here is another building he built in Winnipeg around that era

O-tacular · #**1480** Posted **Dec 19, 2022, 5:49 PM**

That's actually not bad. Much nicer than a Venetian EIFS special from today.