Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Why would you build social housing in some of the city's most prime real estate?

There's 100% a compromise that needs to be made. While it definitely feels unfair and economically suboptimal to build social housing in desirable locations, we also probably want to avoid cramming social housing into the cheapest areas we can find and building ghettos. I'd prefer if we didn't have our own Pruitt–Igoe.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by chowhou

There's 100% a compromise that needs to be made. While it definitely feels unfair and economically suboptimal to build social housing in desirable locations, we also probably want to avoid cramming social housing into the cheapest areas we can find and building ghettos. I'd prefer if we didn't have our own Pruitt–Igoe.

Sorry I was just calling out Vin's hypocrisy and wasn' being serious

[Vin]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Why would you build social housing in some of the city's most prime real estate?

Viewcones exist only in "wealthy neighbourhoods"? I never knew that's a fact.

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Sorry I was just calling out Vin's hypocrisy and wasn' being serious

No, you are just uttering nonsense.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Looks pretty "only wealthy" to me. All the projects cut by the viewcones are in Coal Harbour and the CBD; they don't affect Strathcona, Grandview-Woodland or Hastings-Sunrise's growth one bit.

[whatnext]

BC's revolving door justice system strikes again:

$40,000 art piece stolen, 'chronic offender' arrested: Vancouver police
By Emily Marsten
Posted Jan 3, 2023, 1:50PM PST.Last Updated Jan 3, 2023, 1:51PM PST.

Vancouver police say a man with more than 115 previous convictions, has been arrested for allegedly stealing nearly $40,000 in fine art from a gallery in South Granville.

According to police, officers were called to the gallery on Saturday after the owner reported that a “known thief had walked in and stolen a pricey piece of art,” the Vancouver Police Department (VPD) said in a news release.

“Our officers responded quickly, reviewed security video, and immediately recognized the suspect,” Sgt. Steve Addison said....

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/01/03/vancouver-police-chronic-offender/


I thought the NDP-commissioned report on our out of control criminals said not use hurtful terms like 'chronic offender'?

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by whatnext

BC's revolving door justice system strikes again:
[I]

I thought the NDP-commissioned report on our out of control criminals said not use hurtful terms like 'chronic offender'?

yes the new term to be used is "naughty pants" or "person who occasionally gets arrested"

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I thought the NDP-commissioned report on our out of control criminals said not use hurtful terms like 'chronic offender'?

Actually it didn't say that. Not that you read it.

[whatnext]

Welcome to Vancouver! thanks for opening up a successful new business, sorry about those three break-ins in five months.

"The city can be unpredictable": Third break-in in five months at Vancouver restaurant (VIDEO)
Claire Fenton
Dec 29 2022

The owners of a family-run restaurant in Vancouver are picking up the pieces after another break-in — for the third time in three months.

The owners of Zarak posted about the latest incident on Instagram on Wednesday.

“This morning at 3 am, we were unfortunately broken into for the third time in the past five months, so the third time we’ve had to change our lock, and replace our heavy cash register,” the Main Street restaurant’s post reads in part.

“We were conflicted whether to share this with you or not, but we decided to as a reminder that the city can be unpredictable and to please be safe,” the post reads...

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-zarak-restaurant-break-in

[logan5]

That's an isolated area - not much residential in the surroundings, so a good spot for drug addicts to go to work without being seen.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

yes the new term to be used is "naughty pants" or "person who occasionally gets arrested"

All of this is part of being 'Politically Correct.' And as whatnext observed, what's the angst calling someone a chronic offender if it's a documented fact? The Politically Correct movement infiltrates all things public, probably nowhere more so than law and legal terminology. I think that people will have to adapt to it and swallow it, in some instances, unless there's a groundswell against it, or even to put limits on it.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by logan5

That's an isolated area - not much residential in the surroundings, so a good spot for drug addicts to go to work without being seen.

It’s literally located on the ground floor of a new residential building.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

All of this is part of being 'Politically Correct.' And as whatnext observed, what's the angst calling someone a chronic offender if it's a documented fact? The Politically Correct movement infiltrates all things public, probably nowhere more so than law and legal terminology. I think that people will have to adapt to it and swallow it, in some instances, unless there's a groundswell against it, or even to put limits on it.

There is no political correctness involved. The Provincial Government report in question is titled "A Rapid Investigation into Repeat Offending and Random Stranger Violence in British Columbia" Whatnext and Hollywoodnorth are trying to suggest some woke alternate reality that doesn't exist, and they obviously haven't read the report. Or even the summary.

Whatnext is trying to make some sort of point in inaccurately referencing a comment made by the BC First Nations Justice Council in response to the panel. "The term “prolific offenders” is abandoned by government authorities and all police, as this term not only perpetuates harm and stigma but also fails to address that these individuals lack security and safety."

As the Report title, and all the subsequent government action relating to the report uses the term 'Repeat Offender' there's no pretence that it isn't an issue that needs attention.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by whatnext

BC's revolving door justice system strikes again:

$40,000 art piece stolen, 'chronic offender' arrested: Vancouver police
By Emily Marsten
Posted Jan 3, 2023, 1:50PM PST.Last Updated Jan 3, 2023, 1:51PM PST.

Vancouver police say a man with more than 115 previous convictions, has been arrested for allegedly stealing nearly $40,000 in fine art from a gallery in South Granville.

According to police, officers were called to the gallery on Saturday after the owner reported that a “known thief had walked in and stolen a pricey piece of art,” the Vancouver Police Department (VPD) said in a news release.

“Our officers responded quickly, reviewed security video, and immediately recognized the suspect,” Sgt. Steve Addison said....

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/01/03/vancouver-police-chronic-offender/


I thought the NDP-commissioned report on our out of control criminals said not use hurtful terms like 'chronic offender'?

on the radio they were talking about it, they said the police knew who he was and went to his house in east van to wait and caught him when he got home with the stolen art, they also searched his house and found another piece of stolen art. He was supposed to be in court today, not sure if it was related to this theft or a previous one, I sort of lost track as to what they were saying.

There was also a break in at WOW boutique in yaletown, Why don't the businesses just put up metal shutters? does the city not allow them?


securitydirectuk.com

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

There was also a break in at WOW boutique in yaletown, Why don't the businesses just put up metal shutters? does the city not allow them?

Yes the City allows them. Most Chinatown businesses have either roller shutters like that, or concertina shutters, for example. Maybe some landlords aren't so keen?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There is no political correctness involved. The Provincial Government report in question is titled "A Rapid Investigation into Repeat Offending and Random Stranger Violence in British Columbia" Whatnext and Hollywoodnorth are trying to suggest some woke alternate reality that doesn't exist, and they obviously haven't read the report. Or even the summary.

Whatnext is trying to make some sort of point in inaccurately referencing a comment made by the BC First Nations Justice Council in response to the panel. "The term “prolific offenders” is abandoned by government authorities and all police, as this term not only perpetuates harm and stigma but also fails to address that these individuals lack security and safety."

As the Report title, and all the subsequent government action relating to the report uses the term 'Repeat Offender' there's no pretence that it isn't an issue that needs attention.

I stand corrected.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by logan5

That's an isolated area - not much residential in the surroundings, so a good spot for drug addicts to go to work without being seen.

It's under an apartment building and there's another one across the street.

[MIPS]

Roller shutters are graffiti magnets. They are also hard to remove any paint or markings without rolling the shutter down and blocking off the store door/windows.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8734374/chinatown-bellwether-business-security-vancouver/

[SpongeG]

yeah, they aren't always pretty but it's gotta be better than replacing windows multiple times.

The art thief guy had over 115 offenses dating back a few decades. He is in jail awaiting something, so at least he wasn't just caught and let go.

[MIPS]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9387928/sro-vancouver-downtown-eastside-living-conditions/

What amuses me more is that Global was able to get inside with a resident and ask questions before the custodian reconsiders what he is doing, changes face and then kicks them out.
Property management on the other hand was as predictable as a can of tuna.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There is no political correctness involved. The Provincial Government report in question is titled "A Rapid Investigation into Repeat Offending and Random Stranger Violence in British Columbia" Whatnext and Hollywoodnorth are trying to suggest some woke alternate reality that doesn't exist, and they obviously haven't read the report. Or even the summary.

Whatnext is trying to make some sort of point in inaccurately referencing a comment made by the BC First Nations Justice Council in response to the panel. "The term “prolific offenders” is abandoned by government authorities and all police, as this term not only perpetuates harm and stigma but also fails to address that these individuals lack security and safety."

As the Report title, and all the subsequent government action relating to the report uses the term 'Repeat Offender' there's no pretence that it isn't an issue that needs attention.

The Provincial government must be exaggerating the issue and wasting tax payer's money to conduct this exercise for something that is non-existent?