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Old Posted Dec 9, 2022, 3:58 PM
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^ I like when buildings get taller. But it is curious to me that the developer would expand a fairly old and somewhat out of date hotel like that. Or are they totally gutting the interior too?
It was gutted down to the concrete slabs.
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They did foundation work a couple years ago. But not having to deal with all that, and reusing the existing structure seems like a good idea. Not having to deal with a lot of things, just demo.
     
     
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cant find one of the front.

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2022, 5:26 PM
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Here's another one... looks like the lobby used to be off York, before they made you walk through a surface lot/backlane to enter.

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2022, 5:39 PM
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That classic type of 50's/60's brick and concrete building are a flawed design and it's probably best they lost the balconies and re-clad the exterior.

The floor slabs cantilever out for the balconies creating a huge cold strike along the interior perimeter of the floors - that eventually rots out any wood stud framing on the interior due to condensation.

This effects a lot of condo corps around the city... so beware if you ever consider buying a condo in a building like this that hasn't already dealt with the issue.
     
     
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What a cool oasis in the middle of the city.
And BTW...Rib Room was best (maybe the only) restaurant to get goldeye!
     
     
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What a cool oasis in the middle of the city.
And BTW...Rib Room was best (maybe the only) restaurant to get goldeye!
My friends, family & out of town visitors loved accompanying me to dine there.
The service was top notch, refined elegant surroundings, delicious food & fair prices.
It is a shame that the tradition of eating @ the Rib Room is lost & the new hotel will not offer any Dining option.
Hilton is also considering as many of us know, a Hilton Garden 18 floor hotel on the adjacent parking lot facing Donald Street if post covid & market conditions improve.
     
     
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My friends, family & out of town visitors loved accompanying me to dine there.
The service was top notch, refined elegant surroundings, delicious food & fair prices.
It is a shame that the tradition of eating @ the Rib Room is lost & the new hotel will not offer any Dining option.
Hilton is also considering as many of us know, a Hilton Garden 18 floor hotel on the adjacent parking lot facing Donald Street if post covid & market conditions improve.
replace the tradion with going to the palm room at the fort gary then
     
     
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^ Yes...could do that, but Rib Room was a particularly good solid restaurant.


BTW...here is a link to an interesting article on CNN on the retrofit of a skyscraoer in Australia. Food for thought for the next office/residential conversion, or any pie in the sky idea to modernize Richardson building.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/australia-quay-quarter-tower-skyscraper/index.html
     
     
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^ Yes...could do that, but Rib Room was a particularly good solid restaurant.


BTW...here is a link to an interesting article on CNN on the retrofit of a skyscraoer in Australia. Food for thought for the next office/residential conversion, or any pie in the sky idea to modernize Richardson building.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/australia-quay-quarter-tower-skyscraper/index.html
the richardson building is a thing of pride for the family it dont need much
     
     
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apparently the sutton place thing will resume construction this spring.
     
     
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^ Great news. Travel seems to have bounced back so it's a much surer bet than it would have been 18 months ago.

I just hope it gets built as initially envisioned...
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2022, 4:09 PM
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that's the big question for me too...one tower was condominium....nobody builds those anymore....I could see it becoming a single hotel tower on a podium.
     
     
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I thought one building was a hotel proper and the other a long term stay type place?
     
     
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Now that I read back it says:
18-storey, 288 hotel room tower and a 13-storey, 130 residential tower.
     
     
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that's the big question for me too...one tower was condominium....nobody builds those anymore....I could see it becoming a single hotel tower on a podium.
The foundation is already in, so that will limit changes to building heights.

They are likely capped at 13-floors on the one half of the site regardless.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2022, 4:16 PM
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yeah, it was initially, condo, but maybe they will switch to rental...partial long term stay is an option too, as you say.
     
     
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The foundation is already in, so that will limit changes to building heights.

They are likely capped at 13-floors on the one half of the site regardless.
oh yeah, i wouldn't expect it to get larger....i just wouldn't be surprised if they capped off the second tower at the podium level and called it a "phase two"
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2022, 4:21 PM
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Just getting the podium in would be a win IMO. That would really solidify the street wall along Carlton. And as we've seen from 300 Main, phase twos can eventually happen, even if we have to wait decades for them to materialize

But yes, I'd prefer for the two towers to get built as originally planned.
     
     
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