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Old Posted Jun 9, 2022, 3:41 PM
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So what you're telling me is that there's a bit of a difference.
It's slight, but detectable.

I still haven't walked the entire promenade, just the western part. The raised area with tables is a nice feature, and the lighting under the safety/tie-up bars along the pier edge looks great.

When this is developed it's going to be a busy place. The promenade will probably be busy well before the blocks are developed.

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2022, 8:31 PM
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Give your feedback on the future of the former Canadian Marine Discovery Centre museum, aka Discovery Centre.

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2022, 10:28 PM
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Hoping people don't just ask for more park.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 1:02 PM
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I guess put this here (or mods start a new thread)

Just when you think we can't get more inept

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...bour-1.6660676
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 3:16 PM
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I guess put this here (or mods start a new thread)

Just when you think we can't get more inept

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...bour-1.6660676

I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of thing has occurred to many pipes around the city, and the province for that matter. I recall reading the city has been trying to track down illegal connections to storm sewers... and that this may be part of the reason for poor water quality in area creeks like Chedoke (upriver of the big leak)

Shit happens. Literally.


There's a thread about the Chedoke tank leak, but I don't think there is a more general one that would cover this.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2022, 3:29 PM
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This will be a big job! But a necessary one. Spending hundreds of millions to upgrade the sewage treatment plant will surely help, but these "minor" leaks undermine that effort.


Environment minister says Hamilton must audit entire sewage infrastructure after 2nd leak
David Piccini, Ontario's environment minister, called the 26-year-old sewage leak 'absolutely unacceptable'


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...bour-1.6662960

Bobby Hristova · CBC News · Nov 24, 2022

Ontario's minister of the environment said he's ordered Hamilton to audit its entire sewage infrastructure after the city revealed it just discovered sewage has been leaking into the harbourfront for the past 26 years.

"This is absolutely unacceptable," David Piccini told Queen's Park while answering questions from Donna Skelly, the Progressive Conservative member of provincial parliament for Flamborough—Glanbrook.

"I was angry for the people who are yet again hearing about how their city and the lack of oversight has failed to protect their waters."

The city has 2,100 kilometres worth of sewer pipes.

Piccini also said the city will need to create a remediation plan to treat the damage to the Hamilton Harbour, which is part of Lake Ontario.

City spokesperson Norm Miller said the ministry of environment hasn't issued an official order yet.

Ministry spokesperson Gary Wheeler said the ministry is expecting the city to conduct a "comprehensive assessment of all their sewage infrastructure."

He said while the scope still needs to be defined, that would include "identifying illegal cross connections and then develop a plan to eliminate sewage discharges that could impact the environment."

"The work would be a significant undertaking and a multi-year initiative," Wheeler said.

Flow of sewage into harbour stopped overnight

Skelly said the city needs answers and action.

"Serious problems related to water infrastructure and environmental safety standards should never take over two decades to be addressed," she said.

The city made the announcement on Tuesday afternoon, saying a consultant put the hole into the combined sewage pipe in 1996, thinking all the sewers were storm sewers connected to a box culvert that lead out into the harbour.

It turns out 39 homes are connected to that pipe, meaning their sewage was draining out into the water.

The next day, Nick Winters, director of Hamilton Water, said an incorrect illustration was given to contractors, which led to a hole being made into a combined sewage pipe in 1996.

It's still unclear exactly how much sewage has flowed into the lake and how much damage it's caused.

Tys Theijsmeijer, head of natural lands at Royal Botanical Gardens, said there isn't much wildlife near the harbour because of all the industry in the area.

City spokesperson Norm Miller said in a news release on Thursday the flow of sewage into the harbour stopped overnight after workers finished repairs and realignment.

Work to stop the flow this week cost $29,830 according to Miller. Another $3,000 will be spent to fix the road.

The city has a general issues committee budget meeting which includes a presentation about the water, wastewater and stormwater rate budget, with city staff calling for a combined 6.49 per cent rate increase in 2023.

RBG expects at least one other sewage leak

Theijsmeijer said he's disappointed to hear about the leak but happy there's a process in place and everyone seems to be taking immediate action.

Theijsmeijer said the leak comes down to the difference between a new kind of sewer system and an old kind of sewer system.

The newer kind of system separates sewage and surface run-off.

Most of Hamilton consists of the older kind, a combined sewage system.

"If someone made the assumption it was the newer kind of sewage system in this spot, perhaps it means several other spots like this will be found out there in a review," Theijsmeijer said.

"Based on water-quality monitoring that the city is now doing quite intently, it would not at all be a surprise. There's got to be at least one more somewhere out there, maybe more than that."



The Spec's version: https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilto...er-system.html
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2022, 3:58 PM
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This might be the only thing the PC government will do to help Hamilton, so for that, congratulations and the audit is welcome and necessary.

It's becoming quite obvious city council in the name of whatever, has neglected all the necessary fixes (water systems, roads, underground infrastructure) for at least the last 30-50 years in hopes of perpetually kicking the can down the road. Hopefully incidents like this will lead our new council to address the deficits and hopefully stop the urban sprawl, because if it's bad now, we will just continue the problem at the behest of fixing the original Hamilton, which is in desperate need of maintenance, repairs and stability.
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I should have shared this long ago, but I emailed the West Harbour email in September about the redevelopment of Pier 8. They said promotion and sales will begin this Winter, and construction & occupancy are approximately 2 years out. It will also be multi-phased, but the phasing of the plan was not yet known.
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I should have shared this long ago, but I emailed the West Harbour email in September about the redevelopment of Pier 8. They said promotion and sales will begin this Winter, and construction & occupancy are approximately 2 years out. It will also be multi-phased, but the phasing of the plan was not yet known.
From my understanding it's a 25 year phased build-out
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Such a slow pace, very disappointing and frankly will be quite shocked if it really actually takes this long to build out essentially 8-10 mid rise waterfront condos. The 45 storey proposed tower might throw a wrench into that. I do think that there has already been a huge missed opportunity for sales in advance of ribbon park going in, perhaps with its completion the developers have confidence that they can sell to the masses.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2022, 8:16 PM
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I'm so bummed out about this. All blocks are residential only. The one that was set aside for institutional is now getting the 45 storey tower. Full accommodation for cars including a separate building for just for cars.

Lately it sunk in to me that developers release their phases piecemeal to keep the prices high. Really they could sell and build all at once but it will dragged out as long as possible.

Any excitement I had for this area is basically gone. The park is good, as is having more people in the lower city, but so many opportunities were missed.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2022, 10:21 PM
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I'm so bummed out about this. All blocks are residential only. The one that was set aside for institutional is now getting the 45 storey tower. Full accommodation for cars including a separate building for just for cars.

Lately it sunk in to me that developers release their phases piecemeal to keep the prices high. Really they could sell and build all at once but it will dragged out as long as possible.

Any excitement I had for this area is basically gone. The park is good, as is having more people in the lower city, but so many opportunities were missed.
It should be mixed use, with at least some commercial/retail on the ground floors. However, the other parts of the west harbour redevelopment (e.g., boardwalk west of Pier 8) are planned to have that if I'm not mistaken. More residential probably, too. The building Williams is in could also be redeveloped into something, it's been there a while now. And I thought the "discovery centre" is to be kept (?)
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I noticed some sort of sales billboard went up. Not sure how long it's been there though, I don't go down to the west harbour too often. I should have snapped a pic.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 4:26 PM
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New waterfront boardwalks are open … getting closer to being able to walk along the water’s edge for the entire West Harbour waterfront!





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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 4:48 PM
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That's going to be fantastic walking from basically Princess Point to HMCS
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Would love an aerial shot of that.
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Would love an aerial shot of that.
Or a drone tour!
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Just took a quick bike ride along it - it's just the boardwalk immediately along the waterfront, and it gets very narrow at some points (2-3ft wide).

I don't imagine it'll get a lot of use prior to the completion of the adjacent development sites.
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Does someone have a map of the plans at Pier 5-7? I recall there being a park or something at the foot of James St, and they're building something there:

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