Originally Posted by Doady
The worse service across the border is mostly the result of lack of integration. The TTC refuses to provide any cross-boundary service, not even to Westwood Mall in Malton. The City of Toronto also bans incoming Mississauga, Brampton, York and Durham buses from picking up passengers and bans their outgoing buses from dropping off passengers. And of course there is the problem of fares, which especially affects York because of the long boundary they share with City of Toronto along Steeles Ave.
Of course, York could have done a much better job with Steeles Ave. even without Toronto's cooperation. A VIVA route along Steeles probably should have been their #1 priority in 2005. Steeles is a humongous gap in the York Region transit network. Steeles Ave is York's only continuous east-west transit corridor south of Rutherford Road and they have no route for it! It's just crazy.
You can also see similar gaps elsewhere in the 905 due to bad planning, like in Mississauga south of Dundas, where is the only one east-west transit corridor, Lakeshore Road. There was one other potential east-west transit corridor that was instead converted into a freeway, the Queen Elizabeth Way. The QEW is only bridge across the Credit River between Dundas and Lakeshore and it's only for cars and trucks, no local bus riders, cyclists, or pedestrians. That's a 4-5km gap, think about that. Not many north-south corridors in this area either, due to the conversion of the freeway, the route of the river, all the mansions, and again bad planning on top of all that. South Mississauga is a good example of what suburbs were like before TOD became a thing. New suburbs now not only with proper, continuous corridors closer together, but also development emphasizing those corridors, it is a much different time compared to the 50s.
I have to say, the way Derry Road stands out in north part of Mississauga is very strange to me. Unless things have changed due to COVID, Derry should not have more service or ridership than the adjacent Steeles corridor north in Brampton. Before COVID, the top east-west corridors in Mississauga were definitely Dundas, Bloor, Eglinton, and the 403/Transitway. The Queen and Steeles corridors in Brampton were on par with Dundas and Eglinton. I can understand if Derry has overtaken 403/Transitway due to less students and office workers, but all the others? Doesn't make sense, especially Steeles which is another industrial route just Derry. Maybe Steeles was more reliant on university students than I imagined.
Another one that stands out is McLaughlin parallel to Hurontario in Mississauga, but that's probably due to the LRT construction. I think the map still gives a good overall impression of quality of service in the GTA, but maybe can't look at it too closely, maybe no fault of the person who made the map.
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