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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 3:02 AM
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You don't need to protest and block residents from travelling to work for months on land that is definitively yours.
Why do keep bringing up examples of things that are most definitely not monthlong community hostage taking? Wake me if Indigenous groups ever try the convite playbook in downtown Ottawa.

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Protest even illegal to get your way is not terrorism.
By your definition, the ecoterrorism you brought up was mere protest. Or does the well-being of pipelines matter more to you than safeguarding the peace of a community?

It appears you share the sentiment of the convites that something cannot be terrorism, or hostage taking, or really that bad at all, so long as it is grievance-driven and wears the cloak of protest. I disagree. In Ottawa we are used to protests. After the first weekend, the convoy ceased to be a protest.

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It is what brought down the government in Ukraine and what the brave people of Iran are doing now. Many in Iran probably think enforcing hijab wearing is as important as we think enforcing vaccine mandates was. Actually we now know the vaccine mandate was all political because those of us who got vaccinated were happy to see them punished for extending the pandemic though the only thing that ended the pandemic was 60-70% of us finally getting Covid as many said in the beginning.
It's pretty gross to equate the antivax/anti-Trudeau occupation—and all the illegal activity that accompanied it—with protest against illegitimate and authoritarian regimes abroad. The illegal occupation of Ottawa was not precipitated by actions of an illegitimate or authoritarian regime. God help me if you think it was.

I shouldn't have to write this, but being forced to live with minor temporary inconveniences as a person unvaccinated by choice in the midst of a pandemic cannot in any way be compared to living in like Iran in a permanent state of subjugation under an unelected theocratic regime.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2022, 5:39 PM
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I don't have any skin in this game at all but this is most definitely true.

If Fleury had donned a headset to better understand the questions in English, the interpreter would have translated "a microagression" to... "une microagression"... just for him.
Just saw an extended version of the video, and the convoy lawyer was actually a bit of a dick to Fleury for daring (sic) to speak French at a federal hearing.

So there is that element to it also.
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The convoy lawyer is so badly prepared, they can use clips of him in law schools and bar courses.
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Convoy Inquiry reveals Ottawa Police’s controversial “good cop, seditionist cop” strategy
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MARK HILL, November 3, 2022


https://www.thebeaverton.com/2022/11...-cop-strategy/

It's a joke, but apparently it's not. According to the lawyer representing the convoy leaders, they were getting tips from insider the OPS, OPP, RCMP and even CISIS.
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Convoy Inquiry reveals Ottawa Police’s controversial “good cop, seditionist cop” strategy
The Beaverton
MARK HILL, November 3, 2022


https://www.thebeaverton.com/2022/11...-cop-strategy/

It's a joke, but apparently it's not. According to the lawyer representing the convoy leaders, they were getting tips from insider the OPS, OPP, RCMP and even CISIS.
Perhaps the most troubling thing to come out of the inquiry so far, along with the fact that the former police chief was apparently living in a different reality from everyone else in authority during the protest.
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