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Old Posted Oct 11, 2022, 3:21 PM
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Hey I read this: Is this legitimately a concern the Honolulu flight on Hawaiian Airlines is at risk to get cut? I want to fly it before its gone.

https://beatofhawaii.com/hawaiian-airlines-routes-on-chopping-block-one-canceled-others-coming/
the airline just cancelled Orlando and the article says Boston and Austin are both on the chopping block next.

"Are other routes on the chopping block?
We don’t have any inside information, but we see data points that provide a good indication of how well Hawaiian routes are performing. The two other routes we see as potentially being culled are as follows:

1. Austin to Honolulu. The Austin route started in April 2021 and has been operating twice weekly. The problem is that pricing on the route is to a large degree less than $500 roundtrip. That is not a sustainable level in our opinion. By way of comparison, American’s nonstop route from Dallas to Honolulu earns them on average twice as much money. And the same is true of United’s Houston to Honolulu nonstop.

2. Boston to Honolulu. It’s been four years since Hawaiian began nonstop service between Honolulu and Boston, which is the longest domestic route in the U.S., at 5,095 miles. It started five times per week and unfortunately is now down to just three times a week. Rates on average on this route appear to be unsustainably low.

Boston flights started on the airline’s 90th anniversary and were dubbed Flight 90 for that reason. When it commenced, the company said “Boston is the largest U.S. market without nonstop service to Hawaii.”
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2022, 7:22 PM
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Hey I read this: Is this legitimately a concern the Honolulu flight on Hawaiian Airlines is at risk to get cut? I want to fly it before its gone.

https://beatofhawaii.com/hawaiian-airlines-routes-on-chopping-block-one-canceled-others-coming/
the airline just cancelled Orlando and the article says Boston and Austin are both on the chopping block next.
Dude...this is OLD news. The Orlando flight was cut months ago. The article you referenced is from the beginning of July. Routes had the story, I believe, back in June.

I would not yet worry about the AUS-HNL flight.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2022, 3:08 PM
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Dude...this is OLD news. The Orlando flight was cut months ago. The article you referenced is from the beginning of July. Routes had the story, I believe, back in June.

I would not yet worry about the AUS-HNL flight.
I think the biggest threat to the flight is the re-opening of Japan. Seems like we got that route bc Hawaiian had an extra widebody they couldn't send to Asia and Australia.

Regardless - book the flight, but upgrade your economy seat to extra leg room, bc the pitch is TIGHT.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2022, 2:00 AM
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I've been traveling a lot lately and I gotta say... ABIA definitely needs to upgrade a lot in terms of getting people in and out of the airport. I had a flight at 5:30am on a Thursday in July and to my surprise there was traffic for the departing area at 4:40am.

I really wished Austin had a train going in and out of the airport.

TSA lines are a bit confusing to me too. I didn't realize there were 3 different check points to get in

Also, inside has been VERY packed during the summer. Not sure how they can fit everyone in next summer when there's no expansion

Sorry for that little rant but I do love how the inside looks like and all the food/drink offerings inside are ALL local businesses

There is a train coming to the airport that will go downtown and to the northern and southern end points of the city. The atrium infil project will also break ground in the next few months if memory isn’t failing me.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2022, 2:44 AM
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There is a train coming to the airport that will go downtown and to the northern and southern end points of the city. The atrium infil project will also break ground in the next few months if memory isn’t failing me.
I am not a fan of the train. Waste of money in my opinion.

Anyway, I have been wondering whether or not you'll be able to access the new terminal without going through the main one? Will we not be in the same situation, with security lines, if not?

Even if they open up more checkpoints, it probably won't do much, and traffic will remain an issue (here is where someone chimes in on the train helping reduce congestion - it won't make that big of a difference).
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2022, 2:59 AM
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I am not a fan of the train. Waste of money in my opinion.
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Even if they open up more checkpoints, it probably won't do much, and traffic will remain an issue (here is where someone chimes in on the train helping reduce congestion - it won't make that big of a difference).
Will make a big different for everyone who takes the train and completely avoids the traffic cue

Also a major overhaul of TSA in a new structure is part of the expansion - I expect they are planning for the increased volume in their design. Plus the few times I've traveled this year out of ABIA, TSA staffing/closed checkpoints seemed to be a bigger issue than anything regarding throughput (but I'll admit I only fly a handful times a year and more so out of DFW recently, so my sample of ABIA in the last year isn't necessarily representative - lines inside and out were horrendous though).
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2022, 7:48 AM
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I am not a fan of the train. Waste of money in my opinion.
Lol do tell why that is
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2022, 1:48 PM
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I am not a fan of the train. Waste of money in my opinion.
"[insert public transportation mode] is a waste of money" is a fairly typical Texan' way of thinking. Do you think it's a waste of money because you don't think you will be using it?
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2022, 5:10 PM
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"[insert public transportation mode] is a waste of money" is a fairly typical Texan' way of thinking. Do you think it's a waste of money because you don't think you will be using it?
Unfortunately, that is the attitude many have when it comes to things like public transportation, housing, etc. When/If it doesn't directly benefit them, they couldn't care less about the greater good and how it may benefit others.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2022, 7:40 PM
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Unfortunately, that is the attitude many have when it comes to things like public transportation, housing, etc. When/If it doesn't directly benefit them, they couldn't care less about the greater good and how it may benefit others.
this mentality is super pervasive in TX though. partly why we're a joke to everyone else.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2022, 8:52 PM
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This Texan likes trains.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 4:54 PM
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I am not a fan of the train. Waste of money in my opinion.

Anyway, I have been wondering whether or not you'll be able to access the new terminal without going through the main one? Will we not be in the same situation, with security lines, if not?

Even if they open up more checkpoints, it probably won't do much, and traffic will remain an issue (here is where someone chimes in on the train helping reduce congestion - it won't make that big of a difference).


Lol. I don’t like trains and think they are a waste of money but I’m concerned about auto congestion. Man some ppl can’t be helped.
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This Texan likes trains.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 7:31 PM
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 10:59 PM
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Monday was the busiest day ever at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport

AUSTIN (KXAN) — Austin’s airport just set a new record for the most passengers in a single day.

A total of 35,357 passengers were recorded departing from Austin-Bergstrom International Airport on Monday, October 17, the first day after the second weekend of the ACL music festival.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/m...-austin-bergstrom-international-airport/
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 4:18 PM
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Just to update on ATX2030's post....

Monday (10/24) was the busiest day ever at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport.

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Austin airport smashes passenger record Monday thanks to F1 travel

AUSTIN (KXAN) — For the second Monday in a row, Austin’s airport has set a new record for the number of passengers in a single day.

A record 43,177 passengers departed from Austin-Bergstrom International Airport on Monday, Oct. 24, bolstered by travelers leaving after F1 weekend.

The total smashes the previous record, set just a week ago, by more than 7,800. It’s also the first time that more than 40,000 passengers were recorded in a single day.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/a...enger-record-monday-thanks-to-f1-travel/



The time to expand the airport was yesterday. Let's get it done.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 5:40 PM
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Crazy that 9/10 of the BUSIEST days are all THIS year
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 6:27 PM
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I'm too lazy to dig it up, but the airport did predict almost 22 million passengers this year.

Crazy! That's almost 47% more passengers than its current design capacity.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2022, 7:36 PM
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Crazy that 9/10 of the BUSIEST days are all THIS year
And the only one from 2021 was probably right after ACL also.
(10/25/21 - 35,298)

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I'm too lazy to dig it up, but the airport did predict almost 22 million passengers this year.

Crazy! That's almost 47% more passengers than its current design capacity.
Yeah, but who really uses the airport anyway? Why expand? Didn't we just expand it? Do we really want to spend money on that?
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