Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[Migrant_Coconut]

IMO the scariest moment in Vancouver's recent history was back in 2011 when the Canucks lost. No homeless or junkies were involved in that one.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

IMO the scariest moment in Vancouver's recent history was back in 2011 when the Canucks lost. No homeless or junkies were involved in that one.

I don't know about scary, but yeah it was a chaotic mess. Guess what though? Even the people who ripped off a few pairs of jeans and ran had to face the music when the VPD collected a ton of video evidence.

Crime will happen. The complete lack of accountability (and frankly, respect for the victims) is the big problem.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Aside from reopening Riverview (happening very slowly) and making enough noise to get Bill C-75 revisited (unlikely to happen), I'm not sure what else Vancouver can do in that regard.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

IMO the scariest moment in Vancouver's recent history was back in 2011 when the Canucks lost. No homeless or junkies were involved in that one.

Personally I would rather take a 6-hour riot than 200 random assaults/stabbings/assaults over 10 years.

[officedweller]

Another assault (Richards & Cordova) not reported by the victim (ie. it's become normalized)..
On the video you can see them tussling and rolling into the street on Cordova across from the CP Station (Waterfront Station).
The victim looks like a student, not another DTES person.

Vancouver police release video of man threatened with knife
...
The video appears to show a man cornering another man in an alcove while holding a knife. It then shows the two appearing to wrestle, attempting to hit one another in the street.

Cst. Jason Doucette says although a witness called 911 to report the incident, the victim shown in the video has not come forward.
...

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/19/vancouver-police-knife-threat/

[whatnext]

Cop killer looks like yet another failure of catch-and-release.

Suspect charged with first-degree murder in stabbing death of Burnaby RCMP officer
By Amy Judd Global News
Posted October 19, 2022

A charge of first-degree murder has been laid against a man in connection with the fatal stabbing of a Burnaby RCMP officer on Tuesday.


The B.C. Prosecution Service announced Wednesday that Jongwon Ham has been charged in the death of Const. Shaelyn Yang....

... Global News has learned Ham has a history of being arrested and charged with assault.

He was charged in February 2021 with assault and resisting a police officer.

Following his release from that charge, he was then arrested and charged again in March of 2022 with assault....

https://globalnews.ca/news/9211482/suspe...tm_medium=Twitter&utm_source=%40globalbc

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Another assault (Richards & Cordova) not reported by the victim (ie. it's become normalized)..
On the video you can see them tussling and rolling into the street on Cordova across from the CP Station (Waterfront Station).
The victim looks like a student, not another DTES person.


https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/19/vancouver-police-knife-threat/

The guy getting attacked is bald and his interaction/clothing/oversized black backpack scream a DTES idiot vs another DTES idiot dispute.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Why aren't you blaming Burnaby city council for this one?

Nope I blame Vancouver and the country's judicial system. In this case, Burnaby was trying to dismantle the tent and get this murderer to a shelter.

Vancouver still gets the blame for ignoring the tent cities, as well as folks who support Vancouver's policies.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Vin

Nope I blame Vancouver and the country's judicial system. In this case, Burnaby was trying to dismantle the tent and get this murderer to a shelter.

Vancouver still gets the blame for ignoring the tent cities, as well as folks who support Vancouver's policies.

Your parody account is perfect, I'll give you that.

[whatnext]

Why doesn't TD just pull the plug on this Gastown location?

Windows at Vancouver bank smashed for second time in just over a month (PHOTOS)
Amir Ali
Oct 20 2022

The windows at a Vancouver TD Bank have been smashed for the second time in just over 30 days.

A Vancouver organization captured photos of smashed windows at the Vancouver bank branch near Gastown at Abbott and Hastings streets, located inside the old Woodward Department Store building.

Vancouver Police told Daily Hive that the incident occurred last night when a man broke multiple windows. Police also said the damage is in the tens of thousands....

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-bank-smashed-windows

[MIPS]

Global has more details. Turns out it's the same guy.

A convicted killer from Edmonton accused of doing thousands of dollars of damage to a Vancouver bank last month is back in custody, after allegedly smashing nearly two dozen windows at the same financial institution.

Curtis George McCallum, 47, who was convicted of manslaughter in the 2006 killing of his aunt, was arrested Wednesday night after allegedly smashing an estimated 20 window panes at the TD bank branch at Hastings and Abbot streets.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9214555/vancouver-bank-windows-smashed-again/

Edited:
This is a weapon.
If you are skimming through this thread for a provincial party to make grungy ad's against the NDP, this is free ammo against Catch and Release. One person with a record cold enough to include murder in another province entirely, causing over $100000 in property damage in less than 30 days to the same business.

[Zepfancouver]

A convicted killer from Edmonton accused of doing thousands of dollars of damage to a Vancouver bank last month is back in custody...
https://globalnews.ca/news/9214555/v...smashed-again/

I might be mistaking or I heard of this from another province or country that an out of province convicted criminals who breaks the law in BC would be sent back home to their original place of birth or where their pass crime was committed. Is this something we can do? and why don't we?
We gotta do something, we only have limited supply of window panes in BC. Our inviting year round warm weather and freewheeling catch and release makes it impossible to keep up with demand.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Cop killer looks like yet another failure of catch-and-release.

Suspect charged with first-degree murder in stabbing death of Burnaby RCMP officer
By Amy Judd Global News
Posted October 19, 2022

A charge of first-degree murder has been laid against a man in connection with the fatal stabbing of a Burnaby RCMP officer on Tuesday.


The B.C. Prosecution Service announced Wednesday that Jongwon Ham has been charged in the death of Const. Shaelyn Yang....

... Global News has learned Ham has a history of being arrested and charged with assault.

He was charged in February 2021 with assault and resisting a police officer.

Following his release from that charge, he was then arrested and charged again in March of 2022 with assault....

https://globalnews.ca/news/9211482/suspe...tm_medium=Twitter&utm_source=%40globalbc

he had an arrest warrant out for him as well and something happened the day before the RCMP officer was charged. He came to Canada from the Phillipines. Can someone who commits murder be stripped of Canadian citizenship and be deported?

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

The guy getting attacked is bald and his interaction/clothing/oversized black backpack scream a DTES idiot vs another DTES idiot dispute.

Looked like a skinny student type to me.

[Conrad Yablonski]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

...... Can someone who commits murder be stripped of Canadian citizenship and be deported?

Yes as long as they still hold another citizenship it's against international law to make someone stateless not that it doesn't happen ask the Israelis & the British about that.

Then there's the issue of whether or not that country will take the miscreant back you can't just dump them at an airport.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

he had an arrest warrant out for him as well and something happened the day before the RCMP officer was charged. He came to Canada from the Phillipines. Can someone who commits murder be stripped of Canadian citizenship and be deported?

A murderer should rot in jail, or sent to a work camp for life. Deportation is just too good for the guy because he could be released in his country of origin.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Zepfancouver

A convicted killer from Edmonton accused of doing thousands of dollars of damage to a Vancouver bank last month is back in custody...
https://globalnews.ca/news/9214555/v...smashed-again/

I might be mistaking or I heard of this from another province or country that an out of province convicted criminals who breaks the law in BC would be sent back home to their original place of birth or where their pass crime was committed. Is this something we can do? and why don't we?
We gotta do something, we only have limited supply of window panes in BC. Our inviting year round warm weather and freewheeling catch and release makes it impossible to keep up with demand.

Glass and window pane makers are rejoicing.

"Unbelievable": Glass companies swamped by Vancouver's crime surge
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/glass-companies-vancouver-crime

The deniers think that such actions are "perfectly normal" and "acceptable" because nobody was killed in the process. It's like who cares about a dead aunt in Edmonton, right?


DVBIA is doing its part to help out businesses. With such a high surge in vandalism, all businesses suffer in the end.

Funding offered to downtown Vancouver businesses for vandalism repairs and security upgrades
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/downtown-vancouver-storefront-security-grant

The City, on the other hand, is doing zilch to help out businesses (surprise, surprise!). Instead, Vancouver is spending lots to enable tenters to continue living on the streets by cleaning up after and providing security for them.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by Vin

Glass and window pane makers are rejoicing.



The deniers think that such actions are "perfectly normal" and "acceptable" because nobody was killed in the process. It's like who cares about a dead aunt in Edmonton, right?

Literally no one thinks that. Get a grip.

[Vin]

Chinatown's business association should be having more funds promoting tourism, assisting business growths, conducting conferences/seminars, cleaning streets, etc. Instead, 50% is spent on security due to spill-over DTES lawlessness. What a shameful city we live in.

50% of Vancouver Chinatown BIA budget now spent on district security
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-chinatown-bia-security

Sad thing is, this association will get even less funding when more businesses leave the area.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Vin

Chinatown's business association should be having more funds promoting tourism, assisting business growths, conducting conferences/seminars, cleaning streets, etc. Instead, 50% is spent on security due to spill-over DTES lawlessness. What a shameful city we live in.

Sad thing is, this association will get even less funding when more businesses leave the area.

Swing and a miss again, champ. "Funding for BIAs comes from a special property tax. Each commercial property within the boundary is taxed in proportion to its total taxable value. This means that if a property owner owns 1% of the total taxable value, their share will be 1% of the BIA budget."