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Old Posted Oct 17, 2022, 2:31 PM
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Thank you for that post - I agree.

For some reason Ottawa continues to be that boring, introverted, kid. We're not creative or innovative in activating our city & its spaces. Everything is met with resistance, red-tape and over regulating everything until things die off and people give up on trying.

We get offended when the rest of Canada looks down on Ottawa for being bland and bureaucratic but we do little to change or improve things. I sometimes lose hope that things will change or improve. Should just move to Montreal or Toronto like very other young person I guess...
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I think that downtown Ottawa of 1940 was likely more dynamic than today. The city is built on a conservative bureaucracy, so why would we expect more from our planning, our architecture, and our public spaces where the costs of maintenance is the first consideration leading to bland mediocrity.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 12:40 PM
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A key difference is that students wanted to go back to school/university and feel they learn better that way. Plus, there's actual evidence instead of supposition that remote learning is less effective with children. That's not the case with employees in many types of roles. Simple as that.



We're seeing a paradigm shift - the pandemic probably moved us forward a decade or more on the digital workplace. As a Canadian, I'm glad that the PS will likely reap huge financial benefit from reducing office demand, freeing up resources for, you know, programs Canadians actually care about.

Anecdotally, I feel more productive, as do most who do primarily autonomous work. The exceptions are the colleagues who enjoy watercooler conversations more than they loathe commuting.
Just remember if your job can be done from home it can also be done from Manila or Bangalore.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 2:25 PM
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We have had fear drummed into us for 2 1/2 years. It is now not only Covid, but any virus. How did we survive before Covid?

As a volunteer with 2 groups, I have observed the fear of people coming out of their cocoons. It has been difficult to get people to participate in anything. We can do this on Zoom. We might get a virus so I rather stay home. I am going on a trip and I don't want to get sick before going. An on and on. But people are catching viruses anyways, possibly more than before pandemic, because we have not been exercising our immune systems. So many people are suffering from viruses in the last month.

So, the fear of being in the real world has become a problem. Some people are not overcoming this fear. I see it every day.

Our WFH plans support these fears, and increasing built up obsessions with sterilizing everything. But it won't work, because part of being human is catching viruses. That is part of life.
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Just remember if your job can be done from home it can also be done from Manila or Bangalore.
Speaking for software development and tech in general, this is not true and is just fear mongering, otherwise all of these companies would have already moved shop to countries with lower wages.

Ignoring the very real timezone nightmare of dealing with teams overseas, there are also security, regulation and/or quality implications when it comes to offloading or moving work overseas. Parts of the software product can be worked on overseas, and that shift already happened long before covid was even a thing(remember, these companies are looking for any way to cut costs).
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 3:26 PM
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Speaking for software development and tech in general, this is not true and is just fear mongering, otherwise all of these companies would have already moved shop to countries with lower wages.

Ignoring the very real timezone nightmare of dealing with teams overseas, there are also security, regulation and/or quality implications when it comes to offloading or moving work overseas. Parts of the software product can be worked on overseas, and that shift already happened long before covid was even a thing(remember, these companies are looking for any way to cut costs).
I work in tech and this is exactly right.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 4:59 PM
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Thank you for that post - I agree.

For some reason Ottawa continues to be that boring, introverted, kid. We're not creative or innovative in activating our city & its spaces. Everything is met with resistance, red-tape and over regulating everything until things die off and people give up on trying.

We get offended when the rest of Canada looks down on Ottawa for being bland and bureaucratic but we do little to change or improve things. I sometimes lose hope that things will change or improve. Should just move to Montreal or Toronto like very other young person I guess...
This sounds skeptical but true. I can't really gauge other cities.. I've only lived in Ottawa. I've spent a pile of time in Toronto but it was never for more than 3 or 4 months at a time so it's not the same feeling.

I went to Montreal on Saturday. Parked the car on one of the piers that is converted to a CarPark. Yes believe it or not destinations need parking folks!. $25 bucks for the day. I considered parking on the fringe of the city and getting metro day pass but that would have been more expensive and a waste of our time for a day trip.

I am concerned that Zibi will not be a proper destination after seeing the Old Port.
  • Rue de la Commune (road along waterfront) had grade separated bike path the entire length.
  • There were a half dozen large/clean public washrooms spaced accordingly including a self cleaning unisex bathroom that TALKS to you!
  • They have a 60m Ferris wheel and a zip line
  • They have a large circle of roughly 8 food trucks that seem to be there permanently, although I guess they were closed for the season
  • They have a row of a dozen or so shipping containers that are converted into small shops with movable displays that go out front. Watches, sunglasses, jewelry, artwork, maple syrup etc. It was very busy and lively.
  • There are several larger attractions in the buildings on the piers themselves like IMAX etc.
  • There was a MASSIVE childrens play structure that looked like a pirate ship
  • There was a huge bouncy castle or obstacle course type of thing?
  • This is all the stuff at the end of the season...
  • Oh, and all of the cobblestones in Old Montreal were in good order and not willy nilly patched with asphalt.
  • There were multiple fully grade separated bike lanes in the areas I walked.
So I just pray that Zibi has an actual reason to go there and it's not just a housing development. The boardwalk and power dam lookouts aren't nearly enough despite being one of my favorite spots in the city. Isn't our Zipline only temporary? A collection of plazas doesn't make it a destination. It's a spot for the locals to let Toto drop a duece in a nice setting.

I would like to know more about the plans for Albert Island Courtyard which is the slim wedge shaped thing in between blocks 210. It's already full of character with just those lights strung across.
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I work in tech and this is exactly right.
Will the management consultants your company hires in a few years to cut costs have the same view?
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2022, 6:29 PM
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It's a spot for the locals to let Toto drop a duece in a nice setting.
haha I had a good chuckle at this one

In all seriousness though, Zibi will hopefully be a nice/cute mini neighbourhood. With an interesting location, great views, better-than-usual architecture but agreed in itself it probably won't be a huge draw (for locals or tourists).

I think for that, our best hope would be Lebreton, especially with the size of the development.
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haha I had a good chuckle at this one

In all seriousness though, Zibi will hopefully be a nice/cute mini neighbourhood. With an interesting location, great views, better-than-usual architecture but agreed in itself it probably won't be a huge draw (for locals or tourists).

I think for that, our best hope would be Lebreton, especially with the size of the development.
Yeah I wasn't trying to be a downer... That afternoon in Montreal was a massive reality check. It's been a good 5 years since I've been there and half the things I mentioned weren't there before. Looking at the renderings again I'm feeling like things will be a bit more closed in than I thought. I guess we will see what the retail component consists of.

Oh.. and as a side note, I wish I took a photo. Those big green cask things have been moved slightly to the side and all the debris around them have been cleaned up. Perhaps more importantly... It looks as though they were sandblasted or more likely power washed at high PSI. I could definitely tell they also applied some type of clear urethane or coating overtop. This is very good news. I was worried these might be scrapped but the fact that they hadn't been yet, gave promise.. and now to see them refurbished seems to establish they will stick around in some capacity.
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Speaking of innovative projects in Montreal...



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Old Posted Nov 22, 2022, 12:51 PM
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Cities’ downtown cores are hollowing out, but small towns and suburbs tell a different story

Vanmala Subramaniam, Globe and Mail
November 22, 2022 | Published 1 hour ago | Updated 15 minutes ago


The downtowns of most major Canadian cities continue to face a substantial dip in foot traffic compared with prepandemic norms – but the opposite is true of smaller towns and suburbs within commutable distance of those cities, data from a new study show.

The results of the study, produced by the Canadian Chamber of Commerce’s Business Data Lab, suggests that almost three years into the pandemic, a new economic pattern is emerging in metropolitan areas across the country – a hollowing out of the central hubs of large cities owing largely to hybrid work, and growth in mobility in the outlying spokes of those cities.

“Canada’s biggest cities are significantly behind in terms of workers returning to the office. But we found that there’s been a substantial increase in activity in the downtown cores of towns within a commutable distance of these cities,” said Stephen Tapp, chief economist at the chamber.

The report, which also relied on data from Statistics Canada and the marketing and research firm Environics Analytics, measured the mobility of workers in more than 150 metropolitan areas and 55 downtowns across the country using cellphone data of commuting workers. The data essentially tracks how many people in a given geographical location left their homes and commuted to their offices.



Mobility, or worker foot traffic, in downtown Toronto was 46 per cent lower in September, 2022 – when most large white-collar workplaces began mandating return-to-office policies – compared with January, 2020. In Ottawa, it was 45 per cent lower over that same time frame. Vancouver experienced a 48-per-cent decline in mobility compared with prepandemic times, while Calgary saw a 42-per-cent decrease.

Meanwhile, the Ontario cities of Brampton, Barrie and Brantford – all within a two-hour commute from Toronto – saw a surge in mobility of roughly 30 per cent between January, 2020, and September, 2022. Smaller cities in proximity to Montreal and Quebec City, such as Trois-Rivières and Sherbrooke, also saw a substantial increase in foot traffic over the course of the pandemic.

Over all, 14 of 55 downtowns experienced increased mobility over the period and most of those downtowns were in small cities.

The data do not fully explain why the downtown core of a city like Barrie, for example, would see a surge in movement of people – if a remote worker who used to work at an office in Toronto now lives and works from home in Barrie, it stands to reason that that person would not leave their home to commute to downtown Barrie to work.

But according to Mr. Tapp, the pattern in the data could suggest a rise in the number of remote workers in a city like Barrie, which in turn has led to an increase in economic activity to service these workers.

“It could be that there are more people going into downtown Barrie now than prior to the pandemic because the city has grown, more services like restaurants and retail stores have emerged and workers are needed in those businesses,” he explained.

Montreal seemed to be an outlier with data indicating that the city’s downtown had almost recovered to prepandemic norms – compared with January, 2020, there was a decline of just 3.5 per cent in mobility.

Gatineau, a town whose economy relies largely on federal public servants, saw the biggest decline in mobility across 55 downtowns in Canada – a drop of almost 75 per cent.

The report also found that cities with a higher share of women have had slower recoveries in foot traffic, and cities with higher shares of commuters who use public transit to get to work have also had more muted recoveries.

Mr. Tapp said that if these mobility patterns were to stick, it could mean greater opportunities for businesses in smaller towns and increased local economic development.

“Where we have movement of people over time, you’ll have movement of businesses to serve the needs of those people.”

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Old Posted Dec 3, 2022, 3:50 AM
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Does Ottawa Have a Night Mayor?

Just curious. If so, who, and if not, why?
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What do you mean by a night mayor exactly? Like a werewolf?
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Haha, well...no...it's a real position, sometimes called the "Office of Nightlife and Culture" that cities have to cultivate a city vibe after 5pm. Check this out:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8943152/n...yor-vancouver/
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There was an RFP released in 2021 to develop a strategy.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ott...lipId%3D375756

The rfp:
https://www.merx4.merx.com/cityofott...52201&origin=1

Results:
3 bidders....none were from Ottawa.
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Just curious. If so, who, and if not, why?
Half the time we barely have a day mayor.
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Back-to-office order for public servants expected soon
The government may order workers to the office two or three days per week and set out conditions for exemptions. Timing remains up in the air and one union is already pushing back.

Kathryn May • Policy Options
Dec 08, 2022 • 41 minutes ago • 7 minute read


OTTAWA – Treasury Board is expected to issue a mandate to require all federal public servants to go back to the office for a set number of days every week.

Several senior bureaucrats in different departments who aren’t authorized to speak publicly expect Treasury Board to introduce a new order that would set the number of days public servants have to work at the office – widely speculated to be two or three days – and spell out conditions for exemptions. Details are still being finalized, but senior officials said earlier this week they were alerted the order could come as soon as this week. That now appears to have been pushed back.

The much-anticipated announcement of a new blanket policy has been rumoured for days, sparking speculation, fury, frustration and avowals of resistance on social media among public servants who want to continue working from home. Some question the timing of introducing a mandate as Canadians are facing a triple epidemic of influenza, COVID-19 and respiratory syncytial virus.

Treasury Board Minister Mona Fortier did not respond to questions. Many public servants are braced for a return-to-work regime similar to that at PCO and Treasury Board, where employees are now expected to be in the office at least two days a week. Full-time off-site or remote work are allowed only in exceptional circumstances.

It’s unclear when the new mandate will come into force, but employees are expected to be given enough time to rearrange their lives to accommodate their new in-office work schedules and personal issues such as child care.

“It’s very concerning that unions haven’t been consulted on any plans for a blanket return to the office for federal public service workers. Bargaining agents need to be part of these discussions to ensure the health and safety of workers is at the heart of the decision,” said Chris Aylward, president of the Public Service Alliance of Canada (PSAC).

Until now, Treasury Board has taken a hands-off approach and left it up to departments to decide how to make the shift to a hybrid workforce and bring their workers back to the office.

With more than 100 departments and agencies, the result has been a patchwork, with some requiring one, two or three days in the office and others allowing people to continue working remotely. Departments also haven’t evenly enforced their various standards.

Sources say Treasury Board’s new mandate will define hybrid work, which currently runs the gamut from working everyday at home to making office appearances once a month or a couple times per week. Standardizing hybrid work effectively introduces the “one-size-fits-all” approach Treasury Board had tried to avoid. But people in charge of the public service have been trying to nudge people toward the office for months.

Privy Council Clerk Janice Charette prodded deputy ministers last summer to get workers back to the office to experiment with hybrid. She argued then a “one-size-fits all approach” had limitations for an organization with operations as large and diverse as the government. But she was also clear that employees deserve “coherence in how hybrid approaches are applied across the enterprise.”

She also reminded deputy ministers they have two responsibilities – the management of their departments and being stewards of the public service as an institution.

One senior bureaucrat said something had to give because the lack of consistency or coherence spilled into all kinds of management problems.

Across the government, workers governed by the same collective agreements – in similar jobs and levels – could work at home in some departments but not others. Thousands of grievances and complaints have been piling up.

Some estimate at least half – if not more – of the workers expected to show up at the office for a specific number of days are either not coming in or only partially complying.

“We experimented to see what could work and learn from what would happen,” said one senior official not authorized to speak publicly. “What we learned is it’s very hard for a large organization to operate in a distributed way and make consistent decisions.”

Another official said: “In short, it’s a solution to the mess because it’s going to be the same for everyone. Everyone is going to have to work for X number of days.”

In a tight labour market, a big worry is employee recruitment and retention. As predicted, public servants have begun shopping around for jobs and moving to departments that offer the most flexibility to work from home. This new mandate could affect the recruitment of highly specialized workers, like IT specialists, who tend to prefer remote work.

Treasury Board will probably stress this mandatory call back to the office is not signalling a return of the old ways of working pre-pandemic. Hybrid is here to stay. Working from home offers employees flexibility, work life-balance and a way for managers to recruit a more diverse workforce outside of Ottawa and across the country.

The government has hired about 48,000 people since the pandemic, many of whom haven’t worked in an office. Several managers noted they hired a large number of employees outside Ottawa in cities where their departments don’t have offices. It’s unclear what happens to them.

“We have concerns with a mandatory policy that doesn’t take into account the individual needs of workers and departments,” said Aylward, the PSAC president. “That’s why we’re negotiating for remote work to be enshrined in our collective agreements, so that workers have a say in their working conditions and an avenue to advocate for themselves if they feel the policy is being applied to them unfairly.”

The government is charging ahead with plans to reduce the amount of office space needed to house workers. The mandate shouldn’t affect those plans because, even before the pandemic, its office space was only occupied 60 per cent of the time. That means, on any given day, 40 per cent of desks sat empty with workers off sick, on vacation, at meetings or working remotely.

But politics and public perception are also at play.

The public service is seen as one of the last workforces to return to the office. Meanwhile, trust in government is declining and the bureaucracy’s reputation is taking a beating for service debacles in managing passports, immigration and veterans services.

This comes at a time when the public service is growing, crowding out private-sector employers for workers in a tight labour market.

This doesn’t go over well with Canadians or businesses feeling the pinch of inflation while public-sector unions are demanding raises to cover inflation and sabre-rattling about strike.

Last month, Canada’s business community, led by the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, urged the government to lead the way for other employers and workers back to the office as quickly as possible.

It gathered data showing remote work hit the downtowns of all cities where the government has federal employees since the pandemic, but none as hard as Ottawa and Gatineau.

The percentage of workers who commuted to downtown Ottawa this fall compared to January 2020 fell more than 45 per cent and dropped nearly 75 per cent in downtown Gatineau.

But it also noted virtual work has been undermining its relations with stakeholders, be they business or Canadians, and Zoom meetings have not been a substitute for face-to-face collaboration and consultation.

There are plenty of anecdotes about private and other public-sector leaders attending meetings at federal offices and dismayed how empty offices are, which one manager said “leaves the impression people aren’t working.”

But it’s not going to be a smooth ride.

So far, the reaction of public servants is reminiscent of the so-called Subwaygate backlash in fall, when public servants felt the push to get them back to the office was government buckling to political pressure to support local businesses.

Employees who want to work from home feel they are more productive, have better work-life balance and resent the time and money spent on commuting, parking, buying lunches to sit in on Zoom meetings they could do from home. They feel unheard and that decisions are arbitrary with no rationale.

Remote work is a top issue at the bargaining table. Unions are hoping to enshrine remote-work provisions into the collective agreement to give employees more say in determining where they work. The organization of work and where employees work is a management right that the government is unlikely to bend on.

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