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Old Posted Sep 5, 2022, 4:30 PM
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My guess .. either turned down for a mortgage in Toronto or got a chilly rejection trying to hook up in Toronto. LOL

We could go on about Quebec based developers working in Toronto and their results in the skyline. Fortunately, they didn't bring the likes of Neuf or Geiger Huot to the city.

It's such a common cliche to troll about the lack of a defined identity for Toronto. How is being less inhibited by societal conforms (however minimal) a bad thing? I guess there's a degree of indoctrination that somehow the world won't come without a clearly defined identity. People shouldn't frown on others watching Chicago Wednesdays because its from outside societal conforms. They should frown because the production value sucks (note: I don't actually know if the shows are good or bad having never watched an episode)

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Cormier's themed whimsy is perfect for small pocket parks. I wouldn't want this firm to have done the Grange Park revitalization or Corktown Commons.
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Montreal - Square Viger by NIP Paysage (my pics)






At first my "Ontario brain" was confused. CHUM?

This may be the nicest hospital buildings I've seen in Canada.
Love the square too!
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What Montreal has though are the best public spaces - parks, squares, plazas, and the like.
Totally agree
Montreal overall does it the best in Canada. Montreal is so visually interesting for a pedestrian.
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Cormier's themed whimsy is perfect for small pocket parks. I wouldn't want this firm to have done the Grange Park revitalization or Corktown Commons.
The thing is, Cormier only does these themed designs in Toronto, whereas his work in Montreal is known for being quite sober and restrained. No idea why.
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Totally agree
Montreal overall does it the best in Canada. Montreal is so visually interesting for a pedestrian.
I agree as well.
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The 2,5km, $190M third phase of the Promenade Samuel-de-Champlain is well under way. It will strech between the Côte the Sillery and the yacht club. It will, amongst other things, feature a 16000ft2 shallow pool to... reminisce, so to speak, the fact that a popular beach existed at that location in the 50's.









































https://www.capitale.gouv.qc.ca/nos-proj...ade-samuel-de-champlain/page/le-chantier
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Cool project!
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It looks good, but that road looks awful.
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It looks good, but that road looks awful.
The road was already there , R-136

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The public square situated in front of City Hall is currently getting a $10M facelift:

Historical tidbit: La Maison Simons moved its store in the building to the left of the Cathedral in 1870 and the white building to its right housed the very first Holt Renfrew store in 1847.












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Love Park in Toronto opens June 23












https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-love-park-3m-1s-city-of-toronto.28363/page-49

For those that don't know, this used to be a off-ramp from the Gardiner expressway.

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I love that they saved that catalpa growing on the island in the pond. Such a beautiful tree when in flower.
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Is there a fountain in the pond? It looks like those three circles might be but they could also just be drains or something. I feel like there needs to be a fountain or it'll be a bit underwhelming. Or maybe some fish. Although it would be hard to have fish in a shallow pond like that without some place for them to hide. They'd be eaten by raccoons, hawks, etc. otherwise.

Maybe if it was a more natural-looking pond with a dark bottom and pond vegetation like some water lilies.
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Is there a fountain in the pond? It looks like those three circles might be but they could also just be drains or something. I feel like there needs to be a fountain or it'll be a bit underwhelming. Or maybe some fish. Although it would be hard to have fish in a shallow pond like that without some place for them to hide. They'd be eaten by raccoons, hawks, etc. otherwise.

Maybe if it was a more natural-looking pond with a dark bottom and pond vegetation like some water lilies.
No fountains in the pond
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Ottawa getting two new monuments. Monuments nowadays are quite large, immersive experiences that explain everything in great detail.

Afghan Memorial winning design.

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Indigenous artist's design chosen for Afghan war monument

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Posted Jun 19, 2023, 12:57PM EDT. | Last Updated Jun 19, 2023, 1:10PM EDT.




OTTAWA — Veterans of the war in Afghanistan were influential in choosing the final design for a monument that will memorialize Canada’s contributions in the conflict.

Artist Adrian Stimson, a member of Siksika First Nation in Alberta, says the design unveiled today is inspired by the medicine wheel, an important symbol in many Indigenous cultures.

The materials are reminiscent of the bases in Afghanistan that Stimson visited while taking part in the Canadian Forces Artists Program.

The monument is set to be built in the Lebreton Flats area across the street from the Canadian War Museum.

Officials say a jury selected a different design, but a survey that got more than 10,000 responses showed that veterans preferred Stimson’s creation.

A total of 158 Canadian Armed Forces members were killed during the 13-year mission in Afghanistan.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published June 19, 2023.

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https://ottawa.citynews.ca/2023/06/19/indigenous-artists-design-chosen-for-afghan-war-monument/
LGBTQ winning design after more than a year of value engineering.

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Design unveiled for National 2SLGBTQI+ monument near Portage Bridge
Construction is expected to begin this summer with an official unveiling in 2025.

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Standing 11 metres tall and eight metres in diameter, Canada’s new National 2SLGBTQI+ monument will have pride of place alongside a symbolic sugar maple tree near the intersection of the Portage Bridge and Wellington Street.

The National Capital Commission unveiled artists’ renderings of the monument Thursday at its June board meeting as it granted federal land use approval for the project.

The monument, designed by Team Wreford of Winnipeg, symbolizes a soaring thundercloud. It stems from the landmark $145-million settlement by the federal government of a class-action lawsuit against it by members of the 2SLGBTQI+ community in the Canadian Armed Forces, RCMP and federal public service who were systemically harassed and discriminated against and, in many cases, fired between the 1950s and 1990s. The settlement, in 2018, came a year after the government apologized for what was known as the LGBT Purge.

Money from the settlement will fund the $8-million monument.

“The Monument will be a visible landmark that will recognize the generations of 2SLGBTQI+ people in Canada and tell the story of those who have been persecuted, abused, dismissed and marginalized because of whom they desire and how they identify,” the NCC said in its presentation of the plan.

Construction is expected to begin this summer with an official unveiling in 2025.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...al-2slgbtqi-monument-near-portage-bridge
While I'm at it, the National Holocaust Memorial, opened in 2017.

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Canada’s new National Holocaust Monument is ‘about you’: Hume

The new National Holocaust Monument in Ottawa isn’t a building or a sculpture. “It falls between these things,” says its designer, Daniel Libeskind.

By Christopher Hume, Urban Issues and Architecture
Tues., Oct. 3, 2017


OTTAWA — Even if the name wasn’t there for all to see, there can be no doubt about the meaning of Canada’s National Holocaust Monument. Its enclosed spaces, precariously angled walls and raw concrete surfaces speak the language of pain, fear and isolation. There is nothing heroic here — how could there be? — only the offer of an experience not easily forgotten.

Located across the road from the Canadian War Museum in the LeBreton Flats area of Ottawa, the recently opened monument is a powerful addition to the landscape of the capital. Falling somewhere between art and architecture, this is the first memorial of its kind in the country. Devoid of rhetoric and (mostly) of figurative imagery, it’s an abstract structure that would rather evoke a response than make its point overtly.

The designer, Polish-American architect Daniel Libeskind, has acquitted himself brilliantly. More than any other contemporary practitioner, Libeskind has mastered architecture’s narrative possibilities. Until the monument, the best example of his story-telling skills was the Jewish Museum in Berlin. When opened in 2001, it was completely empty. Still, tens of thousands showed up to see it. Even without artifacts or exhibits, the building told the history of a people with clear and undeniable eloquence.

The monument, which addresses a more specific episode, has fewer means at its disposal. But it’s also free from the limits of conventional architectural structures. Other than the need to memorialize, it serves no purpose. What it offers is pure experience.

“It’s not a building,” Libeskind explains. “It’s not sculpture. It falls between these things. There’s no didactic way to go through it. You have to create spaces for individuals as well as room for 1,000 people. It’s about your experience. It’s about you.”

Just in case there was any doubt, however, a series of black-and-white murals of various Holocaust sites have been painted on a number of walls. These images, based on pictures taken by acclaimed Canadian photographer Edward Burtynsky, add an extra layer of information. But they are unnecessary, intrusive and in some cases distracting. Even more out of place are the metallic panels — in both official languages — that document the Holocaust and its legacy.

This fear of leaving anything unsaid is at odds with a structure that is strong enough to speak for itself, that needs no explanation and that demands we engage with it through our imagination. If words are required, they should be somewhere else. It’s always hard to know when to stop, of course, and the monument reminds us once again why less is more.

At the same time, its hidden spaces, slanted ground planes and dark corners — all unexplained — add an appropriate note of mystery and perhaps of threat to the space. But Libeskind’s monument isn’t without hope: a lone stairwell leads from the ground to an opening in a vertiginously canted wall through which the attentive visitor can glimpse the Peace Tower. On the other side of that opening, a sunbathed balcony looks out over Ottawa and the world beyond. We feel ourselves back in the light, returned to the land of the living. Our response is a quiet sense of exhilaration — and the realization of the power of what we experienced below.

Unlike, say, Peter Eisenman’s Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in Berlin, Libeskind’s piece is frankly abstract but not abstruse. Though from above, its outline resembles an elongated Star of David, even that’s not necessary to an understanding of the monument.

Libeskind, working with Burtynsky, landscape architect Claude Cormier, Holocaust scholar Doris Bergen and Lord Cultural Resources, won the commission through an international design competition launched in 2013. Best known in Toronto for the Crystal, his addition to the Royal Ontario Museum, and the L-Tower condo at Yonge and Esplanade, Libeskind now lives in New York where he moved after winning another competition to remake Ground Zero in Manhattan.

“How lucky we are to be in Canada,” he declares, smiling broadly. “It doesn’t make me feel good to live in America anymore. There’s a darkening of the world. The Germans have broken a historical taboo and elected members of a neo-Nazi party.”

“The opposite of love is not hate,” says Libeskind, paraphrasing Elie Wiesel, “it’s indifference. People forget. It’s not just looking backwards. If you stand here you can hear the voice of the victims of the Holocaust. We should be thinking of who’s not here.”

Christopher Hume’s column appears weekly. He can be reached at [email protected]





https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/10...olocaust-monument-is-about-you-hume.html
The Afghanistan and Holocaust memorials will be next to one another across the National War Museum. This is a corner of LeBreton Flats the NCC seems to have chosen to build a bunch of memorials that have little to nothing to do with one another. I find they sort of lose their meaning in this context.
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I feel like all three Ottawa monuments are kind of just placed in areas that had surplus land, rather than integrated into the parts of the city where people live and work and interact normally. Obviously it's much easier to place them there, but it kind of drops off most people's consciousness which kind of defeats the purpose of memorials.
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Biked by Love Park the other day before it was technically open - it looks great in person. Should improve as the plants grow in, particularly the wisteria canopy (which looks a bit out of place right now). The use of movable seating is great and something I'd like to see more of in Toronto.
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I feel like all three Ottawa monuments are kind of just placed in areas that had surplus land, rather than integrated into the parts of the city where people live and work and interact normally. Obviously it's much easier to place them there, but it kind of drops off most people's consciousness which kind of defeats the purpose of memorials.
I agree. Putting monuments in an urban space should be with care and context to their surroundings. This reads more as "we can't figure out a good place for monuments x, y and z, but this plot of land seems perfect to put all of them in!"

Lebreton Flats relative isolation (more so psychologically) from the traditional downtown really doesn't help with this sentiment. While I agree contributing more monuments to our national capital is a good idea, this feels forced, and really erodes the meaning of some of these monuments.
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