Relevé Ottawa [400 Albert St] | 78/98m | 23/29f | U/C - Page 21

ponyboycurtis · #**401** Posted **Sep 19, 2022, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlueJay

The other base that was poured is for the pump mast.

Ohh... now there is something I had not considered. Thanks!. The one crane can certainly cover this entire site.

Harley613 · #**402** Posted **Sep 19, 2022, 11:08 PM**

I was walking by site yesterday and thinking that the Appletree lot across from this one might be the last great hope for The Clumpbreaker. A 45-60 story tower on that lot would fit in perfectly with everything else along Lyon.

originalmuffins · #**403** Posted **Sep 19, 2022, 11:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

I was walking by site yesterday and thinking that the Appletree lot across from this one might be the last great hope for The Clumpbreaker. A 45-60 story tower on that lot would fit in perfectly with everything else along Lyon.

That lot would be perfect, and I think it's just out of the height limits right? Might be hard to get approval... but one more tower around 45 floors would be perfect beside these 3 and complement 400 Albert very well.

Sidebit though: I would hope they do keep the Appletree as one of the tenants though, as having that clinic remain downtown is important for medical services (considering there is a plethora that is dental or vision based).

Harley613 · #**404** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 12:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by originalmuffins

That lot would be perfect, and I think it's just out of the height limits right? Might be hard to get approval... but one more tower around 45 floors would be perfect beside these 3 and complement 400 Albert very well.

Sidebit though: I would hope they do keep the Appletree as one of the tenants though, as having that clinic remain downtown is important for medical services (considering there is a plethora that is dental or vision based).

It's just outside of the height limits, and even at 60 floors, being behind the clump, a tower here wouldn't be visible from any of the Nationally Important Places That Would Be Ruined If You Could See a Tall Building.

ponyboycurtis · #**405** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 1:46 AM**

I don't know how I feel about that. I like the notion of gradual skyline buildup.

I find some western European cites with the low slung skyline and then one giant peaking tower to look weird. Obviously that's just a fetish aesthetic and doesn't have much to do with actual functionality.

Something in the 130m range would probably provide the most appealing photoshoot from a distance.

That being said.. I wouldn't throw a 60fl building out of bed in the morning upon sobering up. I would make it coffee and toast.

originalmuffins · #**406** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 1:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

It's just outside of the height limits, and even at 60 floors, being behind the clump, a tower here wouldn't be visible from any of the Nationally Important Places That Would Be Ruined If You Could See a Tall Building.

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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

I don't know how I feel about that. I like the notion of gradual skyline buildup.

I find some western European cites with the low slung skyline and then one giant peaking tower to look weird. Obviously that's just a fetish aesthetic and doesn't have much to do with actual functionality.

Something in the 130m range would probably provide the most appealing photoshoot from a distance.

That being said.. I wouldn't throw a 60fl building out of bed in the morning upon sobering up. I would make it coffee and toast.

I kind of agree but I also think that it wouldn't stand out too much once 400 Albert and Lebreton is developed as Lebreton will have many taller towers and 400 Albert is peaking out a little. 60 floors could definitely work here, but it needs to be well designed.

Maybe 45 floor taller tower could be implemented on the lot with the two 3 story buildings beside the 35 floor tower.

This is an old site plan btw, it's still 35 floors.

ponyboycurtis · #**407** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 2:06 AM**

Those two 3 story buildings are pretty nice on the inside. They actually have underground parking believe it or not. That must have been a retrofit. Must have been a real pickle from a design and build perspective.

I think it will be many years before those buildings go if ever.

The time to snap them up was now.

But who knows, the taller tower isn't a done deal yet. I don't see a shovel in the ground.

I would have preferred to see this project as an entire block project like CS 1,2,3 Minto Place, PDV and the Canada Tax building (that's not an entire block though

originalmuffins · #**408** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 2:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

Those two 3 story buildings are pretty nice on the inside. They actually have underground parking believe it or not. That must have been a retrofit. Must have been a real pickle from a design and build perspective.

I think it will be many years before those buildings go if ever.

The time to snap them up was now.

But who knows, the taller tower isn't a done deal yet. I don't see a shovel in the ground.

I would have preferred to see this project as an entire block project like CS 1,2,3 Minto Place, PDV and the Canada Tax building (that's not an entire block though

Tower 3 is expected to break ground (as per developer I believe) at the end of this year with the land sold off and floorplans ready with approvals already in place, I highly doubt they're planning to go back on that lot, good chance we see it coming up with the other 2.

Maybe, but enough money offered on a lot that prime, we could totally see something there within 10 years.

J.OT13 · #**409** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

Those two 3 story buildings are pretty nice on the inside. They actually have underground parking believe it or not. That must have been a retrofit. Must have been a real pickle from a design and build perspective.

Huge fan of those two blocks. They look great, well maintained. It's nice to get a glimpse of the "old" Ottawa between modern towers. I honestly hope they stick around forever.

AuxTown · #**410** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by originalmuffins

Tower 3 is expected to break ground (as per developer I believe) at the end of this year with the land sold off and floorplans ready with approvals already in place, I highly doubt they're planning to go back on that lot, good chance we see it coming up with the other 2.

Maybe, but enough money offered on a lot that prime, we could totally see something there within 10 years.

Ok now I'm disappointed

I didn't even notice that the part of the lot not yet excavated was the one for the tallest tower!! We are doomed to have that western tabletop FOREVER!

UrbOttawa · #**411** Posted **Sep 28, 2022, 5:05 PM**

Crane #2 going up today

RideauRat · #**412** Posted **Sep 28, 2022, 7:15 PM**

2nd crane up

RideauRat · #**413** Posted **Sep 28, 2022, 7:15 PM**

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Crane #2 going up today

Saw them throw it up cool process

ponyboycurtis · #**414** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 2:48 AM**

2 Chainz is in town for a show!

2 Cranes is also in town.

BlueJay · #**415** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 10:10 AM**

I stand corrected. Second base was not for a pump mast. Nice to see two cranes for these beauties.

ponyboycurtis · #**416** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 3:48 PM**

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I stand corrected. Second base was not for a pump mast. Nice to see two cranes for these beauties.

The base looked pretty girthy and had the same setup as the other side. Still a fair guess though.

I somehow forgot to look over the fence and see the state of construction. I feel like all those piles of rubble would be gone and perhaps the floor poured. I got distracted chatting with a worker. He said excavation on the 3rd tower would start in November but wasn't sure. I can't see that happening at all.

He also said the two current towers would be rentals. So take that for whatever it's worth.

GeoNerd · #**417** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 4:03 PM**

I’m shocked that they are going with two cranes on this site. It is going to be super busy with materials flying overhead. They must want this project to go up in lightening speed. Very cool.

Harley613 · #**418** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 8:12 PM**

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I’m shocked that they are going with two cranes on this site. It is going to be super busy with materials flying overhead. They must want this project to go up in lightening speed. Very cool.

Makes sense because Rimap wants shovels in the ground on the Tall Boi this fall, so it would be best to have the Main+Main towers topped out by the time that big dig is done, so they can put that tower up.

AuxTown · #**419** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 9:00 PM**

Exciting times in downtown east and west!

Harley613 · #**420** Posted **Sep 30, 2022, 9:22 PM**

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Exciting times in downtown east and west!

It's so bittersweet for me. So much going on downtown, but still no Clumpbreaker. The Great Clump is just moving Westward.