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originalmuffins · #**1341** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 4:06 PM**

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Better than average, but not as good as the Ottawa side of Zibi.

Maybe it's harder to gain approvals for better projects on the Gatineau side? Kind of alarming though because they have more land on the Gatineau side versus the other way around.

Kelnoz · #**1342** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by originalmuffins

Maybe it's harder to gain approvals for better projects on the Gatineau side? Kind of alarming though because they have more land on the Gatineau side versus the other way around.

It's not harder to get approval when the land is zoned for the height you want (and all of Zibi was already zoned for their master plan).

zzptichka · #**1343** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by originalmuffins

Maybe it's harder to gain approvals for better projects on the Gatineau side? Kind of alarming though because they have more land on the Gatineau side versus the other way around.

You can sell square foot for more $$ on the Ottawa side, so you get better architects and more options.

J.OT13 · #**1344** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 5:14 PM**

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You can sell square foot for more $$ on the Ottawa side, so you get better architects and more options.

Is that still true? I feel like the gap has been closing fast (not that it should, because taxes), especially at Zibi. And why does Montreal generally get better architecture when condos and apartments in Gatineau, again Zibi in particular, probably go for a higher price?

Harley613 · #**1345** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 6:55 PM**

The Kruger Plant's lease is over in 31 years, but I definitely see a scenario where they are bought out of that lease 10-20 years as the city grows. It is definitely not 'here to stay'.

J.OT13 · #**1346** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 7:05 PM**

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The Kruger Plant's lease is over in 31 years, but I definitely see a scenario where they are bought out of that lease 10-20 years as the city grows. It is definitely not 'here to stay'.

I wonder the same. What's Zibi's plan post Kruger? Plug-into the Feds District Energy?

ponyboycurtis · #**1347** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 5:54 AM**

Ya'll know I grind out those ground level shots for ya. I actually need a new pair of Sketchers after this summer.

I should have invested in jackposts.

I kind of question saving the original portion on the corner.

It's so chopped up. Even for the industrial look. We will have to wait and see.

SL123 · #**1348** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 12:55 PM**

I dont see why they saved that corner either. Its falling apart I dont really see any heritage value either

OTownandDown · #**1349** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 1:02 PM**

Agreed. In some cases I don't understand why we can't re-build to match what existed as far a disney facade. The history was on the inside. Keeping a fall-down shell as a disney relic doesn't really help anyone (now, or 30 years from now when all that steel delaminates again and the tenants have to listen to chipping for days and weeks on end).

Can't we just agree on a design aesthetic and build new around that? (Looking at Urban Outfitters on Rideau to justify my argument).

J.OT13 · #**1350** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 3:41 PM**

I'm sure they have some sort of a plan to restore it. From a climate lens, it's better to keep what's there than replicate it with new concrete. I'll reserve my judgement for the end product. So far, they haven't disappointed (on the Ottawa side).

Harley613 · #**1351** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

I'm sure they have some sort of a plan to restore it. From a climate lens, it's better to keep what's there than replicate it with new concrete. I'll reserve my judgement for the end product. So far, they haven't disappointed (on the Ottawa side).

It's a restaurant on the plans and in the renders

originalmuffins · #**1352** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kelnoz

It's not harder to get approval when the land is zoned for the height you want (and all of Zibi was already zoned for their master plan).

From what we've seen, Zibi has been requesting higher than originally planned.

J.OT13 · #**1353** Posted **Sep 28, 2022, 4:03 PM**

Block 11.

https://www.sercoconstruction.ca/projects/zibi-block-211-office-complex

J.OT13 · #**1354** Posted **Sep 28, 2022, 4:09 PM**

Block 208. Restoration of the brick façade is nice, but not so sure about the modern block and how it relates to that heritage portion. Lots of blank walls that could have been used for murals instead.

https://www.sercoconstruction.ca/projects/zibi-development-block-208-office-complex

originalmuffins · #**1355** Posted **Sep 28, 2022, 5:13 PM**

I like these. Nice!

J.OT13 · #**1356** Posted **Sep 29, 2022, 12:24 PM**

From Pat on RailFans Discord.

originalmuffins · #**1357** Posted **Sep 29, 2022, 2:03 PM**

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From Pat on RailFans Discord.

ya know, that really felt like a view from montreal or toronto (in a good way), can't wait to see more things coming up. maybe zibi could squeeze out a proposal that would benefit the skyline in the downtown core. what a great shot!

lrt's friend · #**1358** Posted **Sep 29, 2022, 9:26 PM**

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ya know, that really felt like a view from montreal or toronto (in a good way), can't wait to see more things coming up. maybe zibi could squeeze out a proposal that would benefit the skyline in the downtown core. what a great shot!

One big difference between this and Toronto or Montreal. No decent transit running through the centre of this new community.

advance62 · #**1359** Posted **Oct 1, 2022, 10:17 PM**

That is some borderline whacky looking hdr!

LRTeverywhere · #**1360** Posted **Oct 1, 2022, 10:39 PM**

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That is some borderline whacky looking hdr!

Night Sight on google pixel phones