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[jpIllInoIs]

I remember some data where Chicago is the top 1 or 2 landing places for grads from so many Universities from the Midwest including probably most of these schools from Steely's list..

Agreed Steely that UIC is on an incredible rise to prominence.

Kinda surprised Bradley University in Peoria isn't on the list. Similar to U of Dayton and Drake. Maybe the need a better media/PR dept.

Minor side bar: Notre dame does offer an Executive MBA in the Santa Fe Building on Michigan Ave.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by jpIllInoIs

Kinda surprised Bradley University in Peoria isn't on the list. Similar to U of Dayton and Drake. Maybe the need a better media/PR dept.

Bradley fell just off the original list at #166, so not terribly different ranking-wise from UofDayton or Drake.


i've now edited the original list to include all midwest universities ranked in the top 200.

[Handro]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

with 6 schools on this list, chicago once again does very well relative to the rest of the midwest. and i believe this is the first year ever that UIC has cracked the top 100 nationally on USNWR's annual ranking, making it the highest ranked public university in the midwest outside of the Big 10 on this list.

not too shabby for a modern-era "from-scratch" splinter university once named after an expressway interchange.

I've been keeping a close eye on UIC School of Law (formerly John Marshall). It's only been a few years since UIC took over the school but it seems to have been making some headway in becoming more nationally recognized--the rankings will follow. Would great to have even a Loyola-level public law school in the city.

[Steely Dan]

another cool feather in UIC's cap from this year's rankings:

UIC is 11th among top performers in social mobility, a category that measures the extent schools enrolled and graduated students who receive federal Pell grants, which are given to students whose total family incomes are less than $50,000 annually.

source: https://today.uic.edu/uic-rises-to-t...eges-rankings/


that's a pretty awesome distinction for actually making a difference!

you gotta wonder how many thousands upon thousand of people UIC has lifted up from lower/working class status over the decades.

[left of center]

My alma mater has come a long way! Great to see its rise recognized. Even back in my day, the school was on a pretty evident upswing, academically. I started in 2002 in the College of Business, and the minimum ACT score to get in was 16. When I graduated in 2006, the minimum had risen significantly, to 22. While I don't think schools care much about college entrance exam scores anymore, the raising of educational standards was very much in motion back then and very evidently has continued in the 16 years I have graduated (damn, I feel old!).

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by left of center

My alma mater has come a long way! Great to see its rise recognized. Even back in my day, the school was on a pretty evident upswing, academically. I started in 2002 in the College of Business, and the minimum ACT score to get in was 16. When I graduated in 2006, the minimum had risen significantly, to 22. While I don't think schools care much about college entrance exam scores anymore, the raising of educational standards was very much in motion back then and very evidently has continued in the 16 years I have graduated (damn, I feel old!).

UIC has also benefited from a substantial, $750+ million increase in their endowment, even though it's only been in the past 2-3 years.

[thegoatman]

Surprised Loyola wasn't up there. I've seen that University of Chicago is a top 10 school WORLDWIDE. very impressive

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Surprised Loyola wasn't up there.

Loyola University is there on the list at #115, tied with Creighton.

[lakeshoredrive]

It will be great to see UIC continue to expand their campus with new buildings, both on the east and west campus.

[lakeshoredrive]

It's kind of bittersweet that this is the only building going up that is over 800 feet tall. Is it the end of this very long cycle? If so, then I hope the next cycle will be a great one with multiple buildings over 800 feet. Hopefully a supertall too.

[OhioGuy]

Pretty sweet drone video from the Cubs! It's not at all your typical drone video. So cool!

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[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive

It's kind of bittersweet that this is the only building going up that is over 800 feet tall. Is it the end of this very long cycle? If so, then I hope the next cycle will be a great one with multiple buildings over 800 feet. Hopefully a supertall too.

800 feet ain't much in Chicago but at least it's good for the neighborhood.

How common is it as far as cycles go for proposals to carry over? I'm starting to think this is Chicago's last skyscraper for a while and doubting that any of the others will start anytime soon. But I'm also wondering if they can stay on the back burner and get built 5-10 years from now.

[maru2501]

still waiting for 600 w randolph

[thegoatman]

Really want 400 LSD to start. That massive hole right in front of the city is embarassing.

Other cities continue to pump out skyscrapers and supertalls, why can't Chicago, the home of the skyscraper?

[Steely Dan]

^ because these things work in cycles.

and chicago is starting to come out of one of its biggest big-tower cycles ever.

unless, of course, one of those big towers currently on the drawing boards gets financed.

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

^ because these things work in cycles.

and chicago is starting to come out of one of its biggest big-tower cycles ever.

unless, of course, one of those big towers currently on the drawing boards gets financed.

I guess with how the raised rate and the financial market is going, the demand for residential and office space, and the state of politics in the US, I think it will be awhile until we get a new cycle

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Really want 400 LSD to start. That massive hole right in front of the city is embarassing.

Other cities continue to pump out skyscrapers and supertalls, why can't Chicago, the home of the skyscraper?

Well isn't office demand lower as of now? I know there are some office high rises being built in fulton market, but an actual skyscraper like Salesforce Tower is probably not going to happen for awhile.

Residential skyscrapers could still happen, but you would think with the strong job market here in Chicago and perhaps the city being a little bit more affordable than NYC and LA would attract more people to move here. That would spur more residential high-rises to be built which seem to be concentrated in Fulton Market at the moment.

[Chisouthside]

This is a weird cycle because i dont perceive the hard stop of the cycle crashing in 2009. What if the pandemic was the pause between cycle and now we are actually in a new cycle?

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[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Really want 400 LSD to start. That massive hole right in front of the city is embarassing.

Other cities continue to pump out skyscrapers and supertalls, why can't Chicago, the home of the skyscraper?

On one hand we've had some pretty awesome projects this cycle but unfortunately on the other some of the coolest proposals never seem to have made it. Proposals are never a guarantee anywhere, I guess. Even in NYC or in Asia.

I see your point though, I get frustrated when some random 3rd world city can build a 400+ meter tower but anywhere outside of NYC seems to struggle in the US with decently tall buildings (with a few exceptions).

^ because these things work in cycles.

and chicago is starting to come out of one of its biggest big-tower cycles ever.

unless, of course, one of those big towers currently on the drawing boards gets financed.

Chicago seems to be coming out of a cycle, that's why I asked if projects ever carry over or if developers ever hold onto a site for ~10 years. I would think they wouldn't but who knows...

Maybe in better times we'll finally see Tribune / Parcel I / 400LSD / 78 site see the light of day. Or maybe, crazy enough, we'll see new very tall proposals.