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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 3:11 PM
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Will The Cedar Door survive? Maybe the whole building can be moved again.
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Will The Cedar Door survive? Maybe the whole building can be moved again.
I think there is an addressing error on the permit. Since Block 41 is called out, this would be Cielo's Perennial Phase II tower located on the Brazos Loft site at 4th & Brazos - not the Cedar Door site at 2nd & Brazos.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 3:41 PM
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Yeah, I was gonna say . . . this streetview is actually 5th and Brazosish.
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Yeah, I was gonna say . . . this streetview is actually 5th and Brazosish.
Since it's Cielo and Block 41, the 201 Brazos address has to be wrong.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 4:06 PM
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Will have to keep my ear to the ground on the hotel portion. That's an interesting lot, and will essentially face the new Thompson/tommie. Even though it's in the convention center's orbit, I bet this will be another boutique, maybe 250 keys or so.
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Will The Cedar Door survive? Maybe the whole building can be moved again.
Cedar Door has moved 3 or 4 times in it's history. Not that I want it to go, but it seems pretty resilient.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 11:09 PM
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I'm betting there will eventually be a 5th move in the next few years.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2022, 11:39 PM
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Plans for tower at Brazos Lofts site come into focus
Cielo Property files fresh site plan indicating residential, hotel uses

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...Pos=0#cxrecs_s

Cody Baird – Staff Writer, Austin Business Journal
Jul 7, 2022

Cielo Property Group LLC is getting closer to going vertical on a downtown site it purchased a couple of years ago.

The new tower could sprout at the site of the 40-unit Brazos Lofts condominiums at 201 E. Fifth St., said Tyler Buckler, director of development and investments at Austin-based Cielo.

Cielo filed a site plan July 6 for the project, called Block 41 N, indicating it would be a hotel and residential tower.

Buckler confirmed Cielo envisions apartments and a hotel in the high-rise, along with a 50,000-square-foot health club. Groundbreaking remains a while off: The final square footage and height of the tower is yet to be determined, although the site could accommodate more than 880,000 square feet, according to previous reporting.

A hotel partner has not been selected but the current plan is for 220 rooms, Buckler said.

There will be 350 apartment units, which "will be upscale throughout," he said.

The tower will be constructed on about an eighth of an acre, according to the filing. Cielo purchased the site for $55 million in 2020.

Brazos Lofts takes up the entire northern half of the block bookended by Brazos Street and San Jacinto Boulevard.

The southern half of the block is also owned by Cielo, where the firm plans to develop the 46-story Perennial office tower — set to include a 30,000-square-foot sky garden, 500-person gathering space and 37,000 square feet of retail, restaurant and entertainment space. It is expected to be about 750,000 square feet in total. Groundbreaking is slated for this summer.
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A health club is a good idea. The Gold's down the street is insanely packed!
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We finally have a height for this. FAA permits indicate that it's 628' and the crane will reach 658'. The start date is listed as 10/01/22.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...849001&row=156
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2022, 4:06 AM
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We finally have a height for this. FAA permits indicate that it's 628' and the crane will reach 658'. The start date is listed as 10/01/22.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...849001&row=156
A respectable height. It seems like many of the buildings under construction or proposed (with the exception of 98RR) are within about 100 feet of each other in terms of height.

Republic @ 710
321 w 6 @ 675
Modern Austin @ 658
415 Colorado @ 640
Perennial (proposed) @ 628
Block 16 (proposed) @ 616
Travis & Block 185 @ 594

Austonian and Independent fall right within this range as well.

Conrad at 755 will be a nice change in height, as well as the Ritz Carlton if that gets approved.

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Republic @ 710
321 w 6 @ 675
Modern Austin @ 658
415 Colorado @ 640
Perennial (proposed) @ 628
Block 16 (proposed) @ 616
Travis & Block 185 @ 594

Austonian and Independent fall right within this range as well.
The average of these 9 towers is 655'. If they all get built we might have another higher plateau affect in the skyline. Regardless I am looking forward to a taller skyline across a bigger area. What a difference three years will make especially with 6x and 98 in the mix!
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2022, 4:39 PM
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We finally have a height for this. FAA permits indicate that it's 628' and the crane will reach 658'. The start date is listed as 10/01/22.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...849001&row=156
So demo could get started any week now?
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So demo could get started any week now?
It could. I haven't noticed any demo permits. But that doesn't mean much since they get approved shortly after they are filed once the HLC approves demo which was done in this case.
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400 residential units (up from 350) & 220 hotel rooms. 15,000 sq ft restaurant.

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400 residential units (up from 350) & 220 hotel rooms. 15,000 sq ft restaurant.

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1/8th of an acre is only 5,500sf so this one is going to be tall and thin.
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Maybe Virgin will be the hotel component for the tower.
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1/8th of an acre is only 5,500sf so this one is going to be tall and thin.
Not 1/8 acre - 0.8130 acres or 35,414 square feet, which is one half of a Downtown Austin block.
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2022, 9:51 PM
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Elevations also added for this one. They aren't great quality but we should be able to get height from theses.





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Those are sucky drawings. But that stairstep amenity deck (?) in the middle looks intriguing.
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