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Old Posted May 27, 2022, 4:15 AM
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Two AT projects recently went to tender;

1) Caldwell Road will be getting a sidewalk (westside) and a multi-use path (eastside) from Cherrywood Road to Astral Drive. There also installing a few RRFB crosswalks, and a left-turn lane at Astral.

2) The intersection of Joe Howe and Highway 102 ramps will be modified. There will be a new larger pedestrian island. The crosswalks will be upgraded to crossrides and a new one will be installed across Joe Howe on the southern end of the intersection. A trail will also be installed connecting the new crossing to Elliott Street. IIRC the eventual plan is to have a trail go from Elliott Street along the powerline corridor to Bayers Road where it will connect into the existing multi-use path.
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Old Posted May 27, 2022, 12:15 PM
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2) The intersection of Joe Howe and Highway 102 ramps will be modified. There will be a new larger pedestrian island. The crosswalks will be upgraded to crossrides and a new one will be installed across Joe Howe on the southern end of the intersection. A trail will also be installed connecting the new crossing to Elliott Street. IIRC the eventual plan is to have a trail go from Elliott Street along the powerline corridor to Bayers Road where it will connect into the existing multi-use path.
Finally getting a safe, sane connection to the COLT will be a huge, overdue victory when it happens.
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Old Posted May 27, 2022, 6:47 PM
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Two AT projects recently went to tender;

1) Caldwell Road will be getting a sidewalk (westside) and a multi-use path (eastside) from Cherrywood Road to Astral Drive. There also installing a few RRFB crosswalks, and a left-turn lane at Astral.

2) The intersection of Joe Howe and Highway 102 ramps will be modified. There will be a new larger pedestrian island. The crosswalks will be upgraded to crossrides and a new one will be installed across Joe Howe on the southern end of the intersection. A trail will also be installed connecting the new crossing to Elliott Street. IIRC the eventual plan is to have a trail go from Elliott Street along the powerline corridor to Bayers Road where it will connect into the existing multi-use path.
The Caldwell road changes will be interesting as that is a major secondary road in HRM. Too bad the City would not extend a left turning lane at Delta as well as the waits sometimes make for some dangerous jumps on to Caldwell. Back in the Nineties Caldwell used to host 19,000 cars a day and no doubt that is much higher now as the route is used by most folks from Eastern Passage to access the Grocery stores in Cole Harbour. Sidewalks on both sides of Caldwell are asphalt medieval mess's now so any improvement is just that.
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Old Posted May 28, 2022, 1:35 AM
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Two AT projects recently went to tender;

1) Caldwell Road will be getting a sidewalk (westside) and a multi-use path (eastside) from Cherrywood Road to Astral Drive. There also installing a few RRFB crosswalks, and a left-turn lane at Astral.

2) The intersection of Joe Howe and Highway 102 ramps will be modified. There will be a new larger pedestrian island. The crosswalks will be upgraded to crossrides and a new one will be installed across Joe Howe on the southern end of the intersection. A trail will also be installed connecting the new crossing to Elliott Street. IIRC the eventual plan is to have a trail go from Elliott Street along the powerline corridor to Bayers Road where it will connect into the existing multi-use path.
Excellent news. A few (very busy) images of the Joe Howe changes posted on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/danp128/status/1529798354611458054
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Old Posted May 28, 2022, 3:27 AM
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^Good catch. I didn't even see the last page of the tender drawings so I didn't know about the short path being built near the rail bridge.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2022, 5:32 PM
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South End Bike Lanes preliminary designs are out! You can use this pretty awesome website to check them out.

https://upland.mysocialpinpoint.ca/peninsula-south-bikeway#/sidebar/tab/instructions

Looks great!

More info here
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2022, 5:47 AM
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Tender has been released for new protected bike lanes on Hollis and Terminal from Barrington Street to Lower Water. It will be separated by precast curb, add left-turn boxes to three intersections, and remove some parking.

A tender was also released last week for upgrades to Bell Road bikeway. It will have flexible bollards installed and the Summer/Trollope intersection will be reconfigured.
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2022, 3:34 PM
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Here are the tenders for Hollis and Bell respecitvely:

* https://procurement.novascotia.ca/tender-details.aspx?id=HRM-22-245
* https://procurement.novascotia.ca/tender-details.aspx?id=HRM-22-265

I noticed the tender for Bell street uses the term tactical. Normally I understand tactical as an interim solution towards more permanent infrastructure down the line.

But the work involves precast curbs and overall, looks solid.
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Looks like there's going to be some interim bikeway improvements coming this fall.

https://www.halifax.ca/transportation/cycling-walking/expanding-network/tactical-bikeways

this pic is so biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig arg
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Sheer and utter waste (again!) by HRM. Just tossing more tax dollars into the bike bonfire.
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Finally. The bike infrastructure in the North End is pretty much non-existent right now even though it's probably the part of the city with the most cyclists.

I can't help but be a little disappointed that the improvements will not be on Agricola or Gottingen Streets as that's the final destination for a lot of people biking.

I also though Almon Street was going to get something. Does anyone know if that's still happening?
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Finally. The bike infrastructure in the North End is pretty much non-existent right now even though it's probably the part of the city with the most cyclists.

I can't help but be a little disappointed that the improvements will not be on Agricola or Gottingen Streets as that's the final destination for a lot of people biking.

I also though Almon Street was going to get something. Does anyone know if that's still happening?
Well that's conclusive " its probably the part of the city with the most cyclists"
yet know one really knows do they and I would argue no one really wants to know how FEW cyclists there really are.

Agricola and Gottingen are having an economic rebirth with new residents , business's and energy. Not to mention traffic . It can be tough getting any vehicle down both those streets so perhaps cyclists are not that important.

Cyclists should take the child choice of transportation and play somewhere else. The City is rapidly changing and the addition of a protected Victorian mode of transportation for the far less than 1 % is ridiculous.
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The City is rapidly changing and the addition of a protected Victorian mode of transportation for the far less than 1 % is ridiculous.
The car was invented in 1886, speaking of Victorian-era transportation.
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The car was invented in 1886, speaking of Victorian-era transportation.
Yes it was and it still dominates personal transportation around the World.
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I also though Almon Street was going to get something. Does anyone know if that's still happening?
Last I heard Almon will be getting protected bike lanes from Windsor - Agricola. I believe it will be done as Richmond Yards reopens their adjacent sidewalks. Some of the new renderings show the cycling facility out front. Queen's Marque did the same approach with installing their protected lanes before the rest of Lower Water Street. Halifax will likely try to time the rest of the construction with when the main tower construction is complete in 2023.


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Yes it was and it still dominates personal transportation around the World.
I'm going to guess there's a strong possibility that globally, bikes are used by more people on a daily basis than cars.
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In some parts of the world mass transportation such as trains dominate and in others bikes dominate. Sometimes we assume that what happens here can be extrapolated to cover the globe but that's often not the case.

Regardless, who uses what technology and when each technology was invested isn't relevant to what technology we should be using in a particular setting now. Sometimes the most common thing is the best and should be continued and sometimes there's something else that's better it should be replaced with. The important things are the pros and cons of each technology including energy, space and other resource use, cost, provided utility, and and any externalities.

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Well that's conclusive " its probably the part of the city with the most cyclists"
yet know one really knows do they and I would argue no one really wants to know how FEW cyclists there really are.

Agricola and Gottingen are having an economic rebirth with new residents , business's and energy. Not to mention traffic . It can be tough getting any vehicle down both those streets so perhaps cyclists are not that important.

Cyclists should take the child choice of transportation and play somewhere else. The City is rapidly changing and the addition of a protected Victorian mode of transportation for the far less than 1 % is ridiculous.
Obviously the most rational response to the actual situation is that if the traffic is that bad then clearly cars aren't working out so well in that setting. Therefore, something that requires less space would be a better option. That is, if you're just responding to the situation at face value rather than trying to justify a pre-determined position.
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I'm going to guess there's a strong possibility that globally, bikes are used by more people on a daily basis than cars.
They used to be until China got rich. That's the problem by the way. The Netherlands are always used as a world leading example of urban bike use. Everyone forgets that the Netherlands took almost ten years after WW 2 to recover its Economy from the NAZI occupation. Bikes were the only economical means of transportation until the late 1950's. When societies get wealthier they upgrade the transportation choices for their citizens. In our climate Cars are simply a safer, warmer, more convenient mode of transportation. The Cyclist lobby are demanding - and getting - a far disproportionate slice of limited transportation dollars. A better transit set of options would serve far more of the population and blend in better with the present infrastructure. Bikes are the 1 % . At best.
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Obviously the most rational response to the actual situation is that if the traffic is that bad then clearly cars aren't working out so well in that setting. Therefore, something that requires less space would be a better option. That is, if you're just responding to the situation at face value rather than trying to justify a pre-determined position.[/QUOTE]

See that's the problem. You are trying to justify a pre determined position.
Quite clearly the majority and I mean VAST majority of the travelling public have made their choice to be safe, warm, encased in a metal box that is probably air conditioned so the end journey is less sweaty. I get it , the cyclist lobby have been very successful with virtue arguments related to climate, exercise and urban feel good niceties. The people however have voted with their wallets to buy cars to satisfy THEIR interests not public virtues.
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Yeah, it sure is fun being stuck in a metal box because traffic is so gnarly. Only going to get worse as the population increases. What's your solution there?

Self driving cars going to save you? Sorry, L5 is a long ways away and what we will get with self driving cars is likely more akin to a taxi service (the premium version for those who don't want to take a bus)

Is your solution to widen roads? We know that doesn't work. Induced demand and so on.

What if we took more people off the roads? Wait, maybe that can work! More buses and alternative forms of transport!

Many people actually *do not* want to commute in a vehicle. It sucks, it's a waste of time, and most only do it because there are no other options.

I don't understand why you nuts go into these active transportation threads to troll. Go do something productive.
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