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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 12:50 AM
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From the PR from Air India, looks like the daily flight between YVR and DEL will be permanent year-round.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/ai...s-to-daily-from-august-31-870618443.html
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 10:37 AM
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When is YVR going to ditch the sea-foam carpeting? It's so retro-90s and a pain in the ass dragging wheeled luggage over. Can't imagine it's easy to clean and maintain ether.
Oh I hear ya! I loathe that carpeting and rejoice silently when I can pull my bag over tile!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 2:32 PM
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I for one like the carpeting. It makes the entire terminal nice and quiet with no echo.
     
     
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Just as carpeting has fallen out of favour in residential homes for the past 15 years, I don't see why YVR is still doubling down on it in 2022?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 6:28 PM
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Just as carpeting has fallen out of favour in residential homes for the past 15 years, I don't see why YVR is still doubling down on it in 2022?
Imagine the sound of all the luggage roller wheels across a hard surface floor.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 6:31 PM
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It's an international airport...it's supposed to be noisy. And they should be facilitating the efficient movement of passengers/crew over aesthetics. Carpeting just slows down roller luggages.
     
     
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If you're not strong enough to roll your luggage on thin carpeting you should probably see your doctor.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 10:04 PM
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If you're not strong enough to roll your luggage on thin carpeting you should probably see your doctor.
Yep, the way he’s carrying on you’d think it was wall to wall shag carpeting!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2022, 11:48 PM
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It's not a matter of strength, it's a matter of efficiency and (arguably subjective) aesthetics. Airports should be about getting passengers to their gate as fast as possible...so even a slight reduction caused by unnecessary friction multiplied a million times/year adds up. I don't think any other major airport in the world has carpeting over such a large portion of it's flooring. Like I said, it's a dated remnant of the 90s. Sorry not old enough to remember the 70s shag carpeting era. Did they even have roller luggages back then?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 12:08 AM
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I don't think any other major airport in the world has carpeting over such a large portion of it's flooring.
Just try google the list of airport with carpets, and the result may surprise you. It seems like Vancouver is so small and insignificant among the airports with (mostly) carpeted floor that it doesn't really get a mention

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... and... looks like NH will continue to suspend YVR-HND for the winter season. Current plan for Japan flights for winter:

AC YVR-NRT daily 789
JL YVR-NRT 5x weekly 763
NH YVR-NRT 5x weekly 789

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Just try google the list of airport with carpets, and the result may surprise you. It seems like Vancouver is so small and insignificant among the airports with (mostly) carpeted floor that it doesn't really get a mention
Most results seem to point only to Portland (PDX). Anyways I went through the rabbit hole and it seems like carpeted airports are a marketing ploy to make them more "homely" so that passengers are "comfortable" and surprise surprise, comfortable passengers spend more money at shops while waiting for their flight!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 12:26 AM
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Most results seem to point only to Portland (PDX). Anyways I went through the rabbit hole and it seems like carpeted airports are a marketing ploy to make them more "homely" so that passengers are "comfortable" and surprise surprise, comfortable passengers spend more money at shops while waiting for their flight!
Also, more comfortable to reduce stress from travelling.

SFO, BNA, MSP comes up often in the result... But PDX is the most famous. Internationally? Maybe SIN, BOM, and maybe HKG, but I know HKG is only for the departure area.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 1:32 AM
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It's not a matter of strength, it's a matter of efficiency and (arguably subjective) aesthetics. Airports should be about getting passengers to their gate as fast as possible...so even a slight reduction caused by unnecessary friction multiplied a million times/year adds up. I don't think any other major airport in the world has carpeting over such a large portion of it's flooring. Like I said, it's a dated remnant of the 90s. Sorry not old enough to remember the 70s shag carpeting era. Did they even have roller luggages back then?
Who’d have thought someone so young would be so dainty. I don’t take rollaboards to the gate, they have people to check those.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 1:39 AM
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... and... looks like NH will continue to suspend YVR-HND for the winter season. Current plan for Japan flights for winter:

AC YVR-NRT daily 789
JL YVR-NRT 5x weekly 763
NH YVR-NRT 5x weekly 789
Interesting, did JAL recently revert back the changes they made a couple weeks back ?

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JAL during the month of October 2022 is restoring all 7 weekly flights on Tokyo Narita – Vancouver route, the airline announced on Thursday 21JUL22. The oneWorld member currently operates 5 weekly with Boeing 767-300ER. 7 weekly flights will commence on 01OCT22.

JL018 NRT1830 – 1140YVR 767 D
JL017 YVR1345 – 1630+1NRT 767 D
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220722-jloct22yvr
     
     
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Interesting, did JAL recently revert back the changes they made a couple weeks back ?

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220722-jloct22yvr
Looked like the daily service only lasted for a month. Tues/Fri flights are closed for reservation now.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 3:03 AM
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Looked like the daily service only lasted for a month. Tues/Fri flights are closed for reservation now.
I wonder why they decided to go daily only for a month.

Kinda off topic but why is JAL using the 767 opposed to the 787.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 3:50 AM
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I wonder why they decided to go daily only for a month.

Kinda off topic but why is JAL using the 767 opposed to the 787.
prob because lower capacity, since there isn't much demand with the border restriction.

JL's 787 is already very good since economy is only 2-4-2 abreast, as opposed to usual 3-3-3 on other airlines, but on the 767 it's down to 2-3-2.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 6:20 AM
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As the discussion of China service was mentioned on the previous page, Aeroroutes did a good summary of mainland Chinese service over the next few months (that's basically as far as they can judge it because it changes so much). Ridiculously low levels of service everywhere. Outside of Asia, Los Angeles, Sydney, and Vancouver are the top destinations in terms of frequency and airlines (which isn't saying much, but shows which markets are relatively highest demand still for China):

LAX
Beijing Capital–Los Angeles 1 weekly 777-300ER (Inbound via Tianjin) - Air China
Shenzhen–Los Angeles 1 weekly 777-300ER - Air China
Guangzhou–Los Angeles 2 weekly A380 - China Southern
Xiamen–Los Angeles 4 weekly 787-9 - Xiamen Airlines

YVR
Beijing Capital–Vancouver 1 weekly 777-300ER (Outbound via Shenyang, Inbound via Zhengzhou) - Air China
Shenzhen–Vancouver 1 weekly 787-9 - Hainan Airlines
Chengdu Shuangliu–Vancouver 1 weekly A350-900XWB (2 from 02SEP22) - Sichuan Airlines
Xiamen–Vancouver 1 weekly 787-9 (2 from 06OCT22) - Xiamen Airlines

SYD
Shanghai Pu Dong–Sydney 1 weekly 777-300ER - China Eastern
Guangzhou–Sydney 1 weekly A350-900XWB - China Southern
Fuzhou–Sydney 1 weekly 787-8/-9 (until 13SEP22) - Xiamen Airlines
Xiamen–Sydney 3 weekly 787-8/-9 - Xiamen Airlines

Notable major cities that have either no (or almost no) flights:
YYZ (2 weekly flights)
NYC (1 weekly flight)
PAR (1 weekly flight)
LON (no flights)
ORD (no flights)
SFO (no flights)
SEA (no flights)
WAS (no flights)

I know it's splitting hairs, but it's interesting how they've divied up the flights that do exist. And very weird city pairs and not on the airlines that you'd expect. YVR the only airport outside Asia to have four different airlines serving four different destinations. Who the heck knows how things will play out into winter and next year.

Full article here

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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 7:13 AM
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It’s fascinating to see all this chat about YVR’s international services despite the subdued Asian markets.

Looking at how YVR is doing in terms of direct China flights despite the complete lack of flights globally.

It’s just a matter of time before YVR-China really takes off again.

India, Singapore, Fiji, Singapore, Thailand, Australia, Turkey, Japan, Taiwan etc etc!

The talk in other airports in Western Canada regarding “international” (especially in the winter) is almost entirely about sun destinations.

Total different league at YVR. And I’m sure there’s more to come.
     
     
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