PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread X - Page 231

mcgrath618 · #**4601** Posted **Jul 26, 2022, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64

My cousin works for Comcast in Comcast Tech and I asked her about it at a recent family gathering. She told me that it has definitely been proposed before, but Comcast is having difficulty getting people back into the office post-pandemic. From what I heard, the tower was supposed to be somewhere in the 750-800 foot range. This is second-degree hearsay, so don't take it too seriously.

I don't get this. Maybe it's just me, but I hate working from home.

PHLtoNYC · #**4602** Posted **Jul 26, 2022, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I don't get this. Maybe it's just me, but I hate working from home.

From my experience, the hybrid model is the overwhelming favorite among many workers.
Comcast is likely slower in determining their need for another $1B+ tower when at any given time 50%+ of their Philadelphia workforce is not in the office.

allovertown · #**4603** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 4:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

From my experience, the hybrid model is the overwhelming favorite among many workers.
Comcast is likely slower in determining their need for another $1B+ tower when at any given time 50%+ of their Philadelphia workforce is not in the office.

For the most part I'd rather get out of the house and go to work, but who wouldn't want the option to work from home when it suits you? Hybrid is the way.

I don't like that this means we likely won't see any new office towers in the near future, but it is what it is. And 50% of the workforce in the office at any given time doesn't necessarily mean 50% less office space. A lot of companies are rethinking how to use office space in general. If your employees only come in half the time, what are they doing when they come in? How can you reorient your office to best suit what it's now used for? Eventually a new equilibrium will be reached. I don't think this is the death knell for office towers that some seem to think it is.

daninpa · #**4604** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 11:19 AM**

Has there been any movement with the North Station District or did COVID kill it? Every time I take the train to work and stop at N. Philly station it's depressing looking at the empty platforms, overgrown weeds, shelled out factories, donut skid marks, burned out cars, etc.

TempleGuy1000 · #**4605** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 11:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by daninpa

Has there been any movement with the North Station District or did COVID kill it? Every time I take the train to work and stop at N. Philly station it's depressing looking at the empty platforms, overgrown weeds, shelled out factories, donut skid marks, burned out cars, etc.

The two big developments around there right now is the re-development of part of the Budd Factory and the Beury Building.

https://biobuzz.io/the-jefferson-institu...ing-biologics-training-to-budd-bioworks/

http://beurybuilding.com/

There has not been any movement around the blocks directly next to North Philadelphia station though.

PHLtoNYC · #**4606** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 1:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by allovertown

For the most part I'd rather get out of the house and go to work, but who wouldn't want the option to work from home when it suits you? Hybrid is the way.

I don't like that this means we likely won't see any new office towers in the near future, but it is what it is. And 50% of the workforce in the office at any given time doesn't necessarily mean 50% less office space. A lot of companies are rethinking how to use office space in general. If your employees only come in half the time, what are they doing when they come in? How can you reorient your office to best suit what it's now used for? Eventually a new equilibrium will be reached. I don't think this is the death knell for office towers that some seem to think it is.

Agree with hybrid, flexibility is important.

I don't think office towers are dead either, just in flux, and my prediction is that Comcast will add a third tower eventually, (it's all hearsay anyway). I just think their plans changed due to lack of need at the moment.

To add, their pre-Covid second tower already embraced a flexible spacious layout (smart on their part).

Gatorade_Jim · #**4607** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 2:09 PM**

Got some pictures from the Riverwalk at sunset last night. Also learned something interesting. The areas that it looks like they just didn’t install glass are where the outside pane of the double pane window shattered on install. It’s happened in several places between both towers.

Skang · #**4608** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 2:16 PM**

I think that peco lot will be develop before Comcast ever build there next tower

DeltaNerd · #**4609** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 2:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by TempleGuy1000

The two big developments around there right now is the re-development of part of the Budd Factory and the Beury Building.

https://biobuzz.io/the-jefferson-institu...ing-biologics-training-to-budd-bioworks/

http://beurybuilding.com/

There has not been any movement around the blocks directly next to North Philadelphia station though.

I really hope there is going to be more development going to Broad and Erie, I think it can support more highrises.

McBane · #**4610** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 2:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I don't get this. Maybe it's just me, but I hate working from home.

Not to be smart, but can I guess you live in the City and have no kids?

I'm in the opposite camp. Have young kids and live in the suburbs. If I had to commute to work, I'd have to pay about $500/month for after-care (for just one child)...in addition to the added fuel costs and wear/tear on the car. Instead, I save that money while also getting a head start on dinner, running the Roomba, dropping laundry into the machine, etc.

For your typical suburban family, WFH has been a godsend. I'll never set foot in an office again.

TempleGuy1000 · #**4611** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by DeltaNerd

I really hope there is going to be more development going to Broad and Erie, I think it can support more highrises.

Due to it's transit connections, I do think between Leigh and Allegheny should be the focus. It's a real black eye to the city that Amtrak rides through the apocalyptic waste land of old industrial philadelphia. While still not great, street cleaning is done everywhere on North Broad south of Glenwood ave. I see hope and potential.

Knight Hospitaller · #**4612** Posted **Jul 27, 2022, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by McBane

Not to be smart, but can I guess you live in the City and have no kids?

I'm in the opposite camp. Have young kids and live in the suburbs. If I had to commute to work, I'd have to pay about $500/month for after-care (for just one child)...in addition to the added fuel costs and wear/tear on the car. Instead, I save that money while also getting a head start on dinner, running the Roomba, dropping laundry into the machine, etc.

For your typical suburban family, WFH has been a godsend. I'll never set foot in an office again.

Laundry is my second career.

TonyTone · #**4613** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 12:10 AM**

mcgrath618 · #**4614** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 12:19 AM**

Tony, were you flying near City Hall the other day? I saw a guy with a drone talking to a Center City Parks cop and was wondering if he was a fellow SSP nerd.

Amazing shots, btw.

TonyTone · #**4615** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 12:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Tony, were you flying near City Hall the other day? I saw a guy with a drone talking to a Center City Parks cop and was wondering if he was a fellow SSP nerd.

Amazing shots, btw.

Wasn't me that time, that may have been the Elevated.shots dude from IG tho he does a lot of shots near there.

I'm sorry for the delay as well, been dealing with the Newborn, and some business stuff so I've been packed, also some news regarding some QOL stuff in the city, I won't say anything about it yet, but it has to do with litter...

DeltaNerd · #**4616** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 2:38 AM**

Great shots Tony as always!
Whatever you are teasing sounds excited for us city dwellers!

mcgrath618 · #**4617** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 2:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by TonyTone

Wasn't me that time, that may have been the Elevated.shots dude from IG tho he does a lot of shots near there.

I'm sorry for the delay as well, been dealing with the Newborn, and some business stuff so I've been packed, also some news regarding some QOL stuff in the city, I won't say anything about it yet, but it has to do with litter...

To that end, I can say that SEPTA was given a grant for a track vacuum, so I'm glad to hear that the city is taking litter seriously.

TonyTone · #**4618** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 3:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

To that end, I can say that SEPTA was given a grant for a track vacuum, so I'm glad to hear that the city is taking litter seriously.

How the hell do we not have one of these things already?!!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1zukZzBvw0

PurpleWhiteOut · #**4619** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 4:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

To that end, I can say that SEPTA was given a grant for a track vacuum, so I'm glad to hear that the city is taking litter seriously.

Yes!!! I've been wanting this for so long! Is this for the subways I hope?

DeltaNerd · #**4620** Posted **Jul 28, 2022, 5:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

Yes!!! I've been wanting this for so long! Is this for the subways I hope?

I hope we start with the MFL.