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Old Posted Jul 14, 2022, 8:30 PM
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Oh for sure, but I've come across so many touristy lists where Montreal is mysteriously omitted, usually at the expense of Quebec City.

When I see these, I curl into a ball and cry and cry and cry, SSP-style.
This one is a poll. The cruise ship ports bring in a large volume of tourists, and in general that probably increases the score in something like this, but that doesn't necessarily make a place any better. Actually the cruise areas tend to be awful and many cruise visitors only get a very superficial sense of what cities are like.
     
     
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Montreal's new cruise ship terminal is probably the best one in Canada arrival area-wise, or tied with Vancouver perhaps.
Does Toronto ever get cruise ships coming from the Ocean? I imagine they don't due to the seaway.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2022, 8:43 PM
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Montreal's new cruise ship terminal is probably the best one in Canada arrival area-wise, or tied with Vancouver perhaps.
A large portion of the cruise ship passengers who arrive in Montreal will sit on the boat the whole time, a large portion will do something like an Old Port bus tour and maybe go to 1 restaurant, and a tiny portion will walk more than a few blocks. The bus tour group will probably drive the T&L type submissions. If their bus tour gives them dried out muffins that they don't like they will be in a bad mood and Montreal will be off the list next year.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2022, 8:46 PM
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Does Toronto ever get cruise ships coming from the Ocean? I imagine they don't due to the seaway.
Viking Cruises has a new route from Toronto to New York via the St. Lawrence.

There's a few routes that travel the Great Lakes, from Minnesota and Milwaukee primarily IIRC. Toronto is expecting something like 40 arrivals this summer.
     
     
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Montreal's new cruise ship terminal is probably the best one in Canada arrival area-wise, or tied with Vancouver perhaps.
Does Toronto ever get cruise ships coming from the Ocean? I imagine they don't due to the seaway.
They are doing them this year for the first time since I can remember. Smaller ships but still coming from the Ocean and very expensive. As far as I know they will be using the Terminal built for the Rochester Ferry.

https://www.vikingcruisescanada.com/expe...Oug-VKwwN2Kd7xoCI7QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


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This is the shortest sea to lake cruise.
Starting at $11,695



The Longest starting at $64,995





Just came across this, appernetly the first to arrive was this April.
https://www.blogto.com/travel/2022/05/viking-octantis-cruise-ship-arrives-toronto-first-time/
     
     
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65 grand, probably for a tiny inside cabin. Wow. I'd probably be tired of the boat by day 6.
     
     
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The shot from the Burrard Street Bridge over False Creek out to English Bay is always a good one.

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This one is a poll. The cruise ship ports bring in a large volume of tourists, and in general that probably increases the score in something like this, but that doesn't necessarily make a place any better. Actually the cruise areas tend to be awful and many cruise visitors only get a very superficial sense of what cities are like.
Cruise passengers are a tiny percentage of Montreal’s tourists, compare probably to Halifax. More significant would be the fact that Montreal is the number one city in North America for international conventions..

https://congresmtl.com/en/montreal-tops-...national-events-for-a-4th-straight-year/
     
     
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They are doing them this year for the first time since I can remember. Smaller ships but still coming from the Ocean and very expensive. As far as I know they will be using the Terminal built for the Rochester Ferry.

The Longest starting at $64,995



Just came across this, appernetly the first to arrive was this April.
https://www.blogto.com/travel/2022/05/viking-octantis-cruise-ship-arrives-toronto-first-time/

Wow imagine explaining to your wife that you've just downed tens of thousands of dollars, and that you're taking her with you on a cruise ship to Sault-St-Marie, Thunder Bay, and maybe even Cleveland.
     
     
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^ I had absolutely no idea that you could set sail on an ocean cruise from this neck of the woods (relatively speaking)... Duluth, MN
     
     
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^ I had absolutely no idea that you could set sail on an ocean cruise from this neck of the woods (relatively speaking)... Duluth, MN
That's hilarious. I don't see many people willing to pony up the cash for a trip like that from Duluth, but maybe I'm unaware of their upper-class bracket.

I don't see any incentive in taking cruises. It doesn't look very exciting to me, being stuck on a slow moving massive vessel.
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That's hilarious. I don't see many people willing to pony up the cash for a trip like that from Duluth, but maybe I'm unaware of their upper-class bracket.

I don't see any incentive in taking cruises. It doesn't look very exciting to me, being stuck on a slow moving massive vessel.
I would be pretty surprised if there were more than a couple people from Duluth on board! I'd expect they'd be coming from all over and flying in to catch the ship.

Also, fantastic Montreal/Quebec set, Martin Mtl! Quebec's harbourfront looks spectacular.
     
     
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There's an angle we don't see very often. Looks great. Some good variety in height, materials, building styles.

Seems like Calgary shots and few and far between nowadays.
     
     
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Wow imagine explaining to your wife that you've just downed tens of thousands of dollars, and that you're taking her with you on a cruise ship to Sault-St-Marie, Thunder Bay, and maybe even Cleveland.
I only recently learned about these Great Lakes cruises.

My guess is that their target clientele is probably people with lots of money who've already done "everything" (often multiple times) and are looking for something different.
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Montreal made the T&L list for years though. Halifax is new.

And speaking of Montreal, the skyline si beefing up nicely from that classic angle.


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