PHILADELPHIA | Broad & Lombard | 552 FT | 43 FLOORS - Page 8

TK2001 · #**141** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 3:41 PM**

Documents there state 552 feet. Maybe it got another 10 foot increase

Jayfar · #**142** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 3:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by TK2001

Documents there state 552 feet. Maybe it got another 10 foot increase

Yes, reviewing the video I see 552' 6" on the slides dated July 11. The earlier version of the slides, dated June 1, have 542' 6".

In the Q&A it came out that the architect misspoke in saying 542' 6" while showing a slide w/ notation of 552' 6" — he forgot to account for an elevator overrun that had just been added in recent days. The height above grade, including mechanicals, is 552' 6".

TK2001 · #**143** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 4:20 PM**

The roof is labeled 552 feet. But apparently an elevator overrun will be 10 feet higher, so I guess that means the core will be over the roof

Jayfar · #**144** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gatorade_Jim

They said in the meeting that the slides are wrong as to the actual height. The increase happened very recently because of the elevator apparently. Somebody asked about the height and they mentioned it.

Turns out we were both wrong — total height above grade, counting the elevator overrun, is 552' 6".

Jayfar · #**145** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 4:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by TK2001

The roof is labeled 552 feet. But apparently an elevator overrun will be 10 feet higher, so I guess that means the core will be over the roof

My understanding is that the 552' 6" figure includes the elevator overrun.

Go to 33:55 in the video: https://youtu.be/CrW03P4DdTM?t=2035

TK2001 · #**146** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 5:00 PM**

Yup, 552 feet it is. 542 feet is still confirmed for the parapet

TK2001 · #**147** Posted **Jul 14, 2022, 7:16 PM**

Broad and Lombard in the Philadelphia skyline by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

TK2001 · #**148** Posted **Jul 19, 2022, 1:43 AM**

Broad and Lombard elevations June and July by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr
Left is from the June CDR, right is from the July CDR review on YouTube

colemonkee · #**149** Posted **Jul 19, 2022, 2:41 PM**

Hmmmmm, I like the June CDR version a bit better, not because it's slightly taller, but the more subtle bands help break up the facade surface, and the band at the top gives a more visual, yet still very subtle, separation of the crown. This is a really nice design regardless of the version, but June is slightly better, IMO.

TK2001 · #**150** Posted **Jul 20, 2022, 5:25 PM**

Broad and Lombard renderings by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

Broad and Lombard renderings by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

Hello there! New CDR is up!

Skang · #**151** Posted **Jul 20, 2022, 6:10 PM**

Outside of New York and Chicago , I don’t see any skyline has a more Iconic skyline like Philly maybe I’m being bias , but where One supertall away from shifting the skyline game , would love to see another super tall in Center City but that probably wouldn’t happen anytime soon

PHLtoNYC · #**152** Posted **Jul 20, 2022, 8:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Skang

Outside of New York and Chicago , I don’t see any skyline has a more Iconic skyline like Philly maybe I’m being bias , but where One supertall away from shifting the skyline game , would love to see another super tall in Center City but that probably wouldn’t happen anytime soon

I would like to see more larger buildings (20+ stories) shifting West, South, and North vs. 1 supertall. But yes, Philadelphia has a beautiful skyline, a top 3 or 4 IMO.

Philly Fan · #**153** Posted **Jul 20, 2022, 8:41 PM**

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I would like to see more larger buildings (20+ stories) shifting West, South, and North vs. 1 supertall. But yes, Philadelphia has a beautiful skyline, a top 3 or 4 IMO.

Agreed on both counts.

Gatorade_Jim · #**154** Posted **Jul 20, 2022, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

I would like to see more larger buildings (20+ stories) shifting West, South, and North vs. 1 supertall. But yes, Philadelphia has a beautiful skyline, a top 3 or 4 IMO.

Yeah the drop off in density from Spruce to Pine going south and Arch to Cherry going North is pretty crazy. Although the South side seems the craziest to me. You can go from 20 story buildings to 30-40 foot row homes. Seems like from a strategic standpoint expanding North is the way to go. Too much historic fabric, and resulting pushback that would happen, on Pine to push south.

Justin7 · #**155** Posted **Jul 21, 2022, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by TK2001

Hello there! New CDR is up!

CDR is kind of a mess. These renders don't match updates seen in other renders. Notice the two horizontal bands at the bottom of the cantilever that have (thankfully) been eliminated in the refined design as seen on the street view renders. Also the thinner horizontal breaks on the taller portion come and go depending on what page you're on. Not sure if there was miscommunication or just time crunch and it's ultimately not a big deal. Just something to be aware of if you're looking a details. Sitio has put together a beautiful design and did a great job addressing the problems in the first public iteration.

Knight Hospitaller · #**156** Posted **Jul 21, 2022, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gatorade_Jim

Yeah the drop off in density from Spruce to Pine going south and Arch to Cherry going North is pretty crazy. Although the South side seems the craziest to me. You can go from 20 story buildings to 30-40 foot row homes. Seems like from a strategic standpoint expanding North is the way to go. Too much historic fabric, and resulting pushback that would happen, on Pine to push south.

Things definitely need to push north, but I don't see any problem with pushing south (in a one block radius from Broad) as far as Washington Ave. --certainly South Street at the very least.

therealdawk · #**157** Posted **Jul 21, 2022, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Skang

Outside of New York and Chicago , I don’t see any skyline has a more Iconic skyline like Philly maybe I’m being bias , but where One supertall away from shifting the skyline game , would love to see another super tall in Center City but that probably wouldn’t happen anytime soon

I live in Delaware. So when I bring visitors to the city it's usually via 95N. The view from 95 by the stadiums always generates photo clicks from any out of towners that I'm driving in. They love it!

PHLtoNYC · #**158** Posted **Jul 22, 2022, 5:30 PM**

Small update from the Inky, always behind.

A new 468-unit apartment tower is planned for South Broad Street

https://www.inquirer.com/real-estate/sou...partments-goldenberg-group-20220722.html

Gatorade_Jim · #**159** Posted **Jul 30, 2022, 8:46 PM**

Some activity on site today. Not sure what it could be.

summersm343 · #**160** Posted **Aug 8, 2022, 4:50 PM**

YIMBY Shares Extensive Renderings For Broad And Lombard

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2022/08/yimby-sh...or-broad-and-lombard-in-center-city.html