Gultch/CIM Group Development

[bryantm3]

Good point... many of the "skyline changing" buildings we have in ATL make walkability/density worse because of the amount of parking infrastructure they include.

On another note, does anyone know why they are tearing apart the old brick building on Spring just south of the Trinity Avenue viaduct?

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

Good point... many of the "skyline changing" buildings we have in ATL make walkability/density worse because of the amount of parking infrastructure they include.

On another note, does anyone know why they are tearing apart the old brick building on Spring just south of the Trinity Avenue viaduct?

The City required the demo for a parking lot as part of the redevelopment agreement.

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.axios.com/local/atlanta/2022/06/10/south-downtown-atlanta-redevelopment-projects

By the numbers: The private and public sectors will invest nearly $6.5 billion in over 65 acres in South Downtown alone over the next five years, according to new figures released by Central Atlanta Progress.

That includes the construction of 1,800 residential units and 1.5 million square feet of new commercial space — projects that "will redefine Downtown," says A.J. Robinson of Central Atlanta Progress.

1. Centennial Yards: Work on The Gulch area includes breaking ground on a 232-unit residential building this summer, designing six buildings and finishing the reconstruction of the Nelson Street Bridge. Wild Leap Brew Company is expected to open within the next year and a hotel will break ground in 2023.
2. South Downtown: Newport RE’s long-term vision to restore dozens of buildings within a six-block radius in the historic community — including the historically protected Hotel Row and 222 Mitchell Street, a 330,600-square foot former bank building — is moving forward.
3. Underground Atlanta: Lalani Ventures is creating a master plan to transform the historic streets turned baffling shopping mall into a destination for locals and visitors, starting with turning old storefronts into arts spaces and pop-up restaurants.
4. Five Points: The central hub of MARTA's rail system is scheduled for a $150 million transformation which could include a tower on top of the station. Work will first focus underground on platform enhancements.

[smArTaLlone]

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CfB3-d9OO2e/

[smArTaLlone]

This is the clearest image I've seen of how Centennial Yards will integrate into downtown.

[PhunkyPho]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

This is the clearest image I've seen of how Centennial Yards will integrate into downtown.

Even though I would like to see something taller across from CNN, I'll take it. This is unbelievably huge for downtown/Atlanta.

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by PhunkyPho

Even though I would like to see something taller across from CNN, I'll take it. This is unbelievably huge for downtown/Atlanta.

Agreed. I like how it extends the urbanism of Fairlie-Poplar.

I sound like a broken record, but there's no statistical relationship between tall buildings and density. Fill out the block and provide no-or below-grade parking and you get extremely high density at a human scale. Look at the density of ANY European City versus Atlanta.

[L.ARCH]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

This is the clearest image I've seen of how Centennial Yards will integrate into downtown.

Except this shows a different design for the hotel and apartment tower so I'm questioning if this is accurately representing the current plans.

[PhunkyPho]

Originally Posted by Terminus

Agreed. I like how it extends the urbanism of Fairlie-Poplar.

I sound like a broken record, but there's no statistical relationship between tall buildings and density. Fill out the block and provide no-or below-grade parking and you get extremely high density at a human scale. Look at the density of ANY European City versus Atlanta.

I agree. I am on board with that. However, there is still something to be said about a beautiful and TALL signature tower.

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by L.ARCH

Except this shows a different design for the hotel and apartment tower so I'm questioning if this is accurately representing the current plans.

No. These are not at all renderings of the actual buildings. This is just meant to illustrate how CY could fill in the space between the stadiums and the rest of downtown.

The actual hotel and apartment tower are taller than shown in the above rendering.

[atlHawks]

Hopefully there's plenty of pubs. If the English get a game here, they are gonna drink us dry.

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by PhunkyPho

I agree. I am on board with that. However, there is still something to be said about a beautiful and TALL signature tower.

The only way I could ever see that would be if the housing market got very, very hot.

Office users don't want tall buildings anyone - they want big floor plates.

The new project Portman is doing by Krog Street Market is the state of the art in office. Fresh air, open-air stairs, giant floor plates.

[GTdan]

Originally Posted by Terminus

The only way I could ever see that would be if the housing market got very, very hot.

Office users don't want tall buildings anyone - they want big floor plates.

The new project Portman is doing by Krog Street Market is the state of the art in office. Fresh air, open-air stairs, giant floor plates.

Disagree on not wanting tall buildings. Look at the new Google Atlanta office as an example. Pretty good height with a very open layout and great views. Probably the best office building in Atlanta right now (for interior space).

[Labtec]

Originally Posted by GTdan

Disagree on not wanting tall buildings. Look at the new Google Atlanta office as an example. Pretty good height with a very open layout and great views. Probably the best office building in Atlanta right now (for interior space).

A corporate relocation with many employees would be ideal for a signature tower.

[bryantm3]

Please, no more corporate relocations. So tired of the dick-measuring contest (the most HQs! The biggest towers! The most people!) being prioritized over making the city a nice place for the people who already live here.

[Julien]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

Please, no more corporate relocations. So tired of the dick-measuring contest (the most HQs! The biggest towers! The most people!) being prioritized over making the city a nice place for the people who already live here.

Not mutually exclusive. In fact you could argue that relocating corporations (and expanded operations like Microsoft, Google and Visa) require as part of their wants is a higher quality of life for the employees. Also this brings in MORE tax and philanthropy dollars that can be used for things like The Beltline, pocket parks and wider improved sidewalks.

[Julien]

Also this sounds ........either Opus 2 or insanely and excitedly optimistic.



https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/cente...m_term=0_f2c8779a36-c342952614-199680402

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by Julien

Also this sounds ........either Opus 2 or insanely and excitedly optimistic.

Umm what?!?

This project has already been in the planning stages for at least 5 years and has a nearly $2 billion incentive package from the city and state backing it. How is that even remotely similar to Opus?

When you look at the parts the city that are growing, we see dramatic change over a period of a few years. That's with a variety of developers and no uniform plan. If the city keeps growing at it current pace, a Centennial Yards amount of development in four years is entirely doable.

[Julien]

Originally Posted by Martinman

Umm what?!?

This project has already been in the planning stages for at least 5 years and has a nearly $2 billion incentive package from the city and state backing it. How is that even remotely similar to Opus?

When you look at the parts the city that are growing, we see dramatic change over a period of a few years. That's with a variety of developers and no uniform plan. If the city keeps growing at it current pace, a Centennial Yards amount of development in four years is entirely doable.

I'm referring to it being "mostly complete" in such a tight time frame. Seems all but unrealistic as in Opus 2 aspirations (not Opus 2 vaporware). Hope I'm wrong but this is a massively large and diverse project covering a large area that will almost certainly run into delays and setbacks. For instance I live in Atlantic Station and over 15 years later and it is not "complete" as intended.

Here is the current state (July 2) of construction (hotel I think) in The Gulch proper.