Damn. I'm just seeing this. subterranean, I jumped down your throat in that thread because your comment either seemed to be in bad faith or just plain ignorant, not because you "dared" to be critical of the city. It seems like you're grasping at straws (being very lazy with language) due to a lack of intellectual depth. I agree with you 100% that "development" cannot and should not be discussed in a vacuum. I don't agree with your gross generalizations and troll-like assertions regarding large and diverse groups of people and complex issues and ideas. Sorry for my bluntness but I'm not sure what else to say.
My personal interest in the subject of development, i.e. why I've been on this awkwardly-named but surprisingly-nuanced forum for so long, sits somewhere between intense curiosity about "how things work" (and how that translates to the built environment that we live in) and the bigger picture of the natural history of our species, particularly since the last ice age. IMO the endless semantics around the word "politics" are themselves a reflection of the alienation and general blinkered adolescence of the human mind, including my own. The only thing that really matters in the near term is whether we're able to make amends with the planet, which we've more or less decimated in a brief period of time. The rest is surface noise and, although the arc of justice might be long, as progressives love to argue, the road to ruin appears to be very short.
I'll go back to mostly-lurking in a minute here...
Re: "coffee talk", because I do love to nurse my many contradictions with a good espresso, I ride and die with Heart. The owner, Wille, is a friend and was also a
pro snowboarder in a previous life. I also like Coava, Capitola, Proud Mary, Cave Painter... so many to choose from. Stumptown is still great, too. I also love Either/Or as a cafe and as a place to spin records.
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Originally Posted by subterranean
I'm seeing a number of people being shut down by mods in the Portland sub forums for being critical of state and city policies. This includes myself, CorbinWarrick, soleri, and others for having opinions that differ from the mods here. Even ideas that are respectful and well thought out. It's moved beyond annoying and into the territory of overstep.
Even being a left-wing person myself, I've noticed the moderation is heavily biased against non-left wing viewpoints. This seems to be under the umbrella of keeping things "apolitical" and "we're not going to moderate this, so we're going to delete it", but it's really just a heavy handed moderation of anything critical of the city generally.
Right now the "Downtown Portland" sub is literally shut down because someone dared be critical of downtown and raised concerns that we're all thinking about yet no one is allowed to discuss. The mod told us that this isn't Reddit and to "go to r/portland". Discussing issues downtown of concern to all of us in the planning and development world does not belong in r/portland, it belongs here.
The Downtown Portland thread isn't even a development project-specific post and folks aren't allowed to be critical of homelessness, crime, etc.? I understand a desire to keep things civil but I also think that if mods want to have such a heavy hand because they don't want the job of moderating, then there are others who are willing to do it.
It is no surprise that mod actions are biased. It's pretty easy to see the political views of our moderators when their Twitter handles are in their signature lines. Just a quick click and peruse of one mod's likes shows that they are radically left wing and supportive of some of the people and policies others here have been critical of here but get shut down.
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