Robson Square Renovations - Page 103

Changing City · #**2041** Posted **Jun 8, 2022, 9:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Your home was built on unceded native land too, meaning Aboriginal people have the right to take it over as they see fit?

I do not believe in any illegal occupation of spaces. We as modern citizens and residents should abide by the laws and rules of the day. Full stop. Take everything else to court. Otherwise, run for legislation/parliament and change the current laws to suit your own agenda.

Just like the trucker's occupation of Ottawa, no one should prolong the occupation of public grounds in the name of protest for whatever reason, including those at the Art Gallery square.

The courts treat public, or quasi-public agencies differently in terms of acknowledging Native ownership. That's why CPs land is now an Indian reserve, and native interests are co-developing the former Jericho barracks and RCMP headquarters. If the Provincially owned Courthouse / Gallery were considered for sale, there would no doubt be a claim. That's also why the sale of the Sinclair Centre didn't proceed some years ago.

SpongeG · #**2042** Posted **Jun 9, 2022, 7:36 AM**

the stairs/seating they just put in along the plaza are all stained and look old and grotty. how is that possible lol. They look really bad. But they were getting a lot of use, and I can't believe they allow pot dealers to sell pot out of tent there, that must piss off all the legitimate pot shops downtown, who pay taxes and rents etc. and these tent people I assume just sent up a tent and sell? do they do it without permits etc?

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**2043** Posted **Jun 10, 2022, 12:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

the stairs/seating they just put in along the plaza are all stained and look old and grotty. how is that possible lol. They look really bad. But they were getting a lot of use, and I can't believe they allow pot dealers to sell pot out of tent there, that must piss off all the legitimate pot shops downtown, who pay taxes and rents etc. and these tent people I assume just sent up a tent and sell? do they do it without permits etc?

you must be new to the city!

we only enforce rules on law abiding citizens. when you're a criminal vagrant, you can do what you want! its a utopia you know!!! no need for permits unless you plan to pay taxes, listen to the rules, and do your part for society!

they have no permits, nor is it illegal. city just really doesn't give a crap about vagrants. the CoV recently forced a business in chinatown to remove their gates from the windows due to the fact it isnt correct to the building. these were put up to protect the windows that had been smashed 5x. the city has done nothing about the vagrant problem in this city.

3 weeks ago i went to that new park downtown, there was a group of vagrants on the overhead walkway camped out, smoking weed, and leaving garbage around. when i called 311, i was told the city wants them there to "keep an eye on them" and that i need to have compassion.

that is the CoV in a nutshell.

urbanflight · #**2044** Posted **Jun 14, 2022, 3:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Would this property not be suitable for decolonization, given its history as a locus for enforcing Western-biased legal systems? If the Victoria museum is being decolonized, then surely it would be hypocrisy to leave this building standing.

The way to decompose a society and civilization from within.

TwoFace · #**2045** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 2:05 AM**

The excitement is at fever pitch as the new awning is up

Vin · #**2046** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

The courts treat public, or quasi-public agencies differently in terms of acknowledging Native ownership. That's why CPs land is now an Indian reserve, and native interests are co-developing the former Jericho barracks and RCMP headquarters. If the Provincially owned Courthouse / Gallery were considered for sale, there would no doubt be a claim. That's also why the sale of the Sinclair Centre didn't proceed some years ago.

And I, a tax payer, have the right not to agree to any of the above instead of accepting everything passively, right?

I bet you would be up in arms defending your home if the courts decide to go for your home to "give back" to Native people.

Vin · #**2047** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 4:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

you must be new to the city!

we only enforce rules on law abiding citizens. when you're a criminal vagrant, you can do what you want! its a utopia you know!!! no need for permits unless you plan to pay taxes, listen to the rules, and do your part for society!

they have no permits, nor is it illegal. city just really doesn't give a crap about vagrants. the CoV recently forced a business in chinatown to remove their gates from the windows due to the fact it isnt correct to the building. these were put up to protect the windows that had been smashed 5x. the city has done nothing about the vagrant problem in this city.

3 weeks ago i went to that new park downtown, there was a group of vagrants on the overhead walkway camped out, smoking weed, and leaving garbage around. when i called 311, i was told the city wants them there to "keep an eye on them" and that i need to have compassion.

that is the CoV in a nutshell.

Hence we need to change the culture and rot of the entire City of Vancouver from within. We do not want to be another San Francisco.

WarrenC12 · #**2048** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

And I, a tax payer, have the right not to agree to any of the above instead of accepting everything passively, right?

I bet you would be up in arms defending your home if the courts decide to go for your home to "give back" to Native people.

So become a political advocate instead of whining on SSP.

Vin · #**2049** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 6:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

So become a political advocate instead of whining on SSP.

Why do you like whining about my comments then?

I do like it when you get triggered though. That shows someone is paying attention, and don't worry: I won't ask you to be an advocate in anything else.

Spr0ckets · #**2050** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

And I, a tax payer, have the right not to agree to any of the above instead of accepting everything passively, right?

I bet you would be up in arms defending your home if the courts decide to go for your home to "give back" to Native people.

Yes, it would indeed be a great injustice if someone just took your "home" and gave it to someone else who just seemingly up and showed up out of nowhere........and decided to set up shop there....

.....like they owned the place or something, instead of just being the "guests" that they presumably were.
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The utter injustice and atrocity of it all.

On a completely unrelated note,....

Did your head explode from irony when you wrote that comment or where the concentric circles of lack of self-awareness too dizzying to even register what was happening at all in the first place?

Curious minds would love to know.

officedweller · #**2051** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by TwoFace

The excitement is at fever pitch as the new awning is up

For the entrance to the VAG on Hornby St.?
Glass or fabric?

Will have to take a look.

wabooba · #**2052** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

For the entrance to the VAG on Hornby St.?
Glass or fabric?

Will have to take a look.

Would it be possible to take a picture of it to put here? My curiosity is up. Thanks

TwoFace · #**2053** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

For the entrance to the VAG on Hornby St.?
Glass or fabric?

Will have to take a look.

Yes, Hornby. I assume it's a fabric treated with glass for longevity.

officedweller · #**2054** Posted **Jun 17, 2022, 11:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by TwoFace

Yes, Hornby. I assume it's a fabric treated with glass for longevity.

I happened to walk past today.
Pics by me:

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**2055** Posted **Jun 18, 2022, 12:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

I happened to walk past today.
Pics by me:

so replaced the old crappy one with a new crappy one.

officedweller · #**2056** Posted **Jun 18, 2022, 12:12 AM**

Yup - looks the same.
I suppose they didn't want to spend any money on a new design or approval process.

Changing City · #**2057** Posted **Jun 18, 2022, 2:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

And I, a tax payer, have the right not to agree to any of the above instead of accepting everything passively, right?

Well, you don't get a vote on the opinion of a federal court. You can sound off on the internet as much as you like though. (Even if you don't pay taxes).

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Originally Posted by Vin

I bet you would be up in arms defending your home if the courts decide to go for your home to "give back" to Native people.

Again, if you can't tell the difference between a home, and a Provincially owned former courthouse, may I suggest Hakim Optical?

I acknowledge that most of BC is unceded land, and that I have profited hugely from 'owning' a tiny portion of it, and have made arrangements to correct that in future. Most of my estate will go to a native educational organization. I imagine you have a similar arrangement?

Klazu · #**2058** Posted **Jun 19, 2022, 4:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

3 weeks ago i went to that new park downtown, there was a group of vagrants on the overhead walkway camped out, smoking weed, and leaving garbage around. when i called 311, i was told the city wants them there to "keep an eye on them" and that i need to have compassion.

Please tell me you are making this up and they didn't actually tell you that? What does it even mean to keep an eye on them?? I hope you reminded the imbecile on the phone that you pay their salary.

s211 · #**2059** Posted **Jun 19, 2022, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Please tell me you are making this up and they didn't actually tell you that? What does it even mean to keep an eye on them?? I hope you reminded the imbecile on the phone that you pay their salary.

That's par for the course. I recall trying to obtain a residential on-street parking pass and instead getting a lecture about how I should get a bike instead.

That's not made up, unfortunately.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**2060** Posted **Jun 19, 2022, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Please tell me you are making this up and they didn't actually tell you that? What does it even mean to keep an eye on them?? I hope you reminded the imbecile on the phone that you pay their salary.

i wish it was made up. they were quite condescending and rude. this was before that incident with the weapons/threatening family thing. i didn't bother pushing them on anything. i could tell that no matter what, they were the bleeding heart type that thinks no vagrants can do wrong and they re all just victims of the system. though they did try hard to make me feel the the bad/guilty party for trying to keep the park from becoming the next ruined park downtown. i would say its a futile attempt.

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Originally Posted by s211

That's par for the course. I recall trying to obtain a residential on-street parking pass and instead getting a lecture about how I should get a bike instead.

That's not made up, unfortunately.

that is sad to hear that happened... do you know if you ever made it into the queue for residential permit parking? i would encourage you not to give up on that. dont let terrible CoV (not all are) discourage you.