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[marothisu]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Breaking news! Just heard from CWB that the city has ordered that Mcdonalds closed until further notice! good fucking riddance. Hoping the next step is the closing and demolition of that crime magnet.

https://twitter.com/CWBChicago/statu...6bsT5sG1mAbiOA

I'm hoping they sell it to a developer like JDL who can tear it down and build something dense there.

But don't be surprised if some trendy restaurant like Big Star takes it up just so they don't have to mess with zoning LOL

[marothisu]

I made the data in my post easier for people to figure out with 2 graphs. The violent crime in Near North Side + Loop combined isn't really actually up compared to most years. But the violent crime committed with a gun is.

This is why reporting on correct data matters. No this doesn't make things "better" because gun crime sucks, but saying "violent crime is XYZ" is going to get you into trouble unless you're actually more specific about it.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by marothisu

I made the data in my post easier for people to figure out with 2 graphs. The violent crime in Near North Side + Loop combined isn't really actually up compared to most years. But the violent crime committed with a gun is.

This is why reporting on correct data matters. No this doesn't make things "better" because gun crime sucks, but saying "violent crime is XYZ" is going to get you into trouble unless you're actually more specific about it.

Thanks, as usual your analysis is helpful.

[marothisu]

Since someone asked, I took a look at the violent crime from 2002 to 2022 around both the Chicago Red Line stop and Grand Red Line stop. I created a 2x2 square to search from where the station was the center point. That is going east 1 block, west 1 block, north 1 block, and south 1 block. Each block in Chicago is a furlong or 660 feet, which is 0.125 miles exactly.

I calculated percent share of the overall violent crime in Near North Side in those areas. Around the Chicago stop in 2021 it was 5.57% which is actually lower than 2010 - 2012, 2015, and 2017-2020. It's almost identical to 2016. This year so far thru 8 days ago it's 7.52% which is still lower than 2018 and 2020.

For Grand Red Line, we have to remember that some of the Hubbard St bars are part of this square. It has a higher percentage share than Chicago Red Line which makes sense once you consider there's a number of bars within this area. The 2021 percentage share is still lower than 2012, 2014, 2015, 2017-2019 and almost identical to 2016. So far this year it's pretty high but similar to 2014.

Since 2011, these 2 areas together have made up around 15-20% of all Near North Side violent crime. The Chicago one is lower and it's easy to conflate some of the higher percentages with the red line, even though there's a bunch of nightlife near one of them that draws people from all over.






Looking at an overall incident perspective, not taking into account population..

Chicago Red Line 2x2 block
2021: 103 violent crimes
2020: 120
2019: 149
2018: 179
2017: 136
2016: 95
2015: 80
2014: 82
2013: 77
2012: 120
2011: 124
2010: 123
2009: 101
2008: 114
2007: 115
2006: 113
2005: 96
2004: 96
2003: 95
2002: 91

2021 isn't the lowest year here but it's still lower than 10 other years and close to 5 others. At this rate, 2022 may end up with around 120.

Grand Red Line 2x2 block
2021: 197 violent crimes
2020: 94
2019: 238
2018: 228
2017: 226
2016: 182
2015: 144
2014: 182
2013: 154
2012: 158
2011: 141
2010: 123
2009: 117
2008: 133
2007: 143
2006: 147
2005: 115
2004: 116
2003: 126

2021 was one of the highest but 2017-2019 were still worse for that. At this rate, this year may end up with around 225 which is similar to 2017 thru 2019.
2002: 114

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by marothisu

I'm hoping they sell it to a developer like JDL who can tear it down and build something dense there.

But don't be surprised if some trendy restaurant like Big Star takes it up just so they don't have to mess with zoning LOL

I can't imagine a trendy restaurant wants to put a bunch of yuppies on this corner at the ground floor. My guess is either a developer comes in for a rental tower, or Loyola will swoop in and buy it with their endowment. Loyola might pursue another joint development deal where they get space in the podium.

[Steely Dan]

The trash had been taken out to the alley.

Remember folks, trolling ain't tolerated here.

There are a million other corners of the internet where you can go be a total fucking idiot to your heart's content.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by ardecila

I can't imagine a trendy restaurant wants to put a bunch of yuppies on this corner at the ground floor. My guess is either a developer comes in for a rental tower, or Loyola will swoop in and buy it with their endowment. Loyola might pursue another joint development deal where they get space in the podium.

You never know. Big Star was seriously looking at putting a place at Ontario & Wells in the former Al's Beef. Not sure if it's still happening but still.

The real estate that McDonald's is sitting on is worth a lot of money. They should just sell to a developer and hopefully something better is build there. Even a 30 story building is a great improvement there - though hopefully it would be much taller.

[left of center]

^ I'm sure Loyola would be very interested to acquire that property. I just hope they don't sit on it/landbank it for decades until they finally decide they want to use it.

[Handro]

Anyone have theories as to what drives the crime at these two stops specifically? Stops with transfers aren't as confounding, Roosevelt/Jackson/Belmont, etc, but why these two seemingly random, one-line stops?

Awesome data, marothisu

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Handro

Anyone have theories as to what drives the crime at these two stops specifically? Stops with transfers aren't as confounding, Roosevelt/Jackson/Belmont, etc, but why these two seemingly random, one-line stops?

Awesome data, marothisu

This is within a 1 block of each stop in all 4 directions. It's not specifically at the stop only. The area I looked in at Grand Ave for example goes as far SW as right near AMLI River North. That means the data reflected has a large handful of bars and what not in it. I really think that's the key between the 2 stops in terms of percentage here..

[aaron38]

24th Ward Alderman Michael Scott Jr. resigns from Chicago City Council to join Cinespace
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-city...igns/11888898/

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by aaron38

24th Ward Alderman Michael Scott Jr. resigns from Chicago City Council to join Cinespace
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-city...igns/11888898/

He sucks hard. Good luck, Cinespace. You'll need it.

[Steely Dan]

Choo - Choo!!!!!

All aboard the Vallas train!

I don't know if he's necessarily the answer, but he's the best available option to rise to the occasion thus far.

[moorhosj1]

Kam Buckner has released a "plan" (really just a list of ideas) for Public Safety & Justice.

Some concepts I found refreshing/different/interesting were

• Add a Mental Health option to 911— using 511
• Redraw police districts as CPD has not redrawn police district maps since the 1970s
• Create an Internet Intelligence Unit to combat crimes that are being planned online
• Double funding to the City Office of Violence Prevention from $16.5M to $33M
• Add homicide detectives
• Text Program: When confined to a small space, it can be dangerous for passengers to call 911. My administration will create a system that allows passengers to text emergency services in the event of a crime unfolding on the CTA.

[Steely Dan]

^ the emergency text idea seems like a pretty good one on the surface of it.

I also like the internet intelligence unit idea, but CPD already must have something like that, right, even if it's not named as such?

In other political news, Ja'mal Green has officially entered the mayoral race.

[thegoatman]

We need a dedicated CTA transit police force. pathetic that cities like atlanta and philly have one but not chicago

[moorhosj1]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

We need a dedicated CTA transit police force. pathetic that cities like atlanta and philly have one but not chicago

Or even just shrink the police parking lots and encourage them to use the CTA to commute. Especially with stations next to L stops, like this one in Logan Square.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by moorhosj1

Or even just shrink the police parking lots and encourage them to use the CTA to commute. Especially with stations next to L stops, like this one in Logan Square.

Genius!

And the sum total of all that police station parking lot land probably comes to hundreds of acres. Imagine how many new officers could hired if it was all sold off.

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Genius!

And the sum total of all that police station parking lot land probably comes to hundreds of acres. Imagine how many new officers could hired if it was all sold off.

I presume you'd still keep some of the parking for police vehicles, right? I agree with the notion of encouraging officers to ride transit, effectively acting as de facto transit police, but this also could run into overtime pay issues, of course.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Investing In Chicago]

Originally Posted by glowrock

I presume you'd still keep some of the parking for police vehicles, right? I agree with the notion of encouraging officers to ride transit, effectively acting as de facto transit police, but this also could run into overtime pay issues, of course.

Aaron (Glowrock)

Do CPD officers take their vehicles home with them when they are off duty? If so, why would they take transit? If not, where would they park their squad cars?