National Victims of Communism Memorial | Completed

[J.OT13]

Really have to wonder, where's the money? Millions of tax payer dollars and still nothing to show for it.

We donated land. It should have been 100% up to Tribute to Liberty to fund the rest, as per the original agreement.

I'm still puzzled as to how we don't have a monument to Indigenous Victims of our Colonialist Past or a monument to Indigenous Contributions to Canada, yet we are wasting so much time and money into this suspicious ideological monument championed by a third party.

[eltodesukane]

That money would be better used for the Vietnamese Memorial at Somerset and Preston.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.408373,-7...U8_QW3pg00Z2FZA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

[Truenorth00]

Wow. They really should cancel this project. Sounds like it will just become some rallying point for the far-right if they build this thing.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Really have to wonder, where's the money? Millions of tax payer dollars and still nothing to show for it.

We donated land. It should have been 100% up to Tribute to Liberty to fund the rest, as per the original agreement.

I'm still puzzled as to how we don't have a monument to Indigenous Victims of our Colonialist Past or a monument to Indigenous Contributions to Canada, yet we are wasting so much time and money into this suspicious ideological monument championed by a third party.

I hope that any public monuments for indigenous peoples have a positive tone.

If we could have a national indigenous museum, the impacts of colonialism (which impacted everybody in some way or another) could be presented in that museum. I would also hope that one of the Residential Schools is preserved as a solemn memorial.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

I hope that any public monuments for indigenous peoples have a positive tone.

If we could have a national indigenous museum, the impacts of colonialism (which impacted everybody in some way or another) could be presented in that museum. I would also hope that one of the Residential Schools is preserved as a solemn memorial.

An indigenous museum at LeBreton Flats or Victoria Island, or a change in vocation of the Civilization/History museum to focus solely on first nations (with a new Canadian History Museum built elsewhere) would be good.

I agree, the residential schools should be preserved, as Europe did with the concentration camps.

[passwordisnt123]

I don't know, call me crazy but I don't want one red cent of my tax money going to anything that commemorates a single Nazi or Nazi collaborator.

Kill this stupid monstrosity. If this were any other non-ideological project, it would have been killed ages ago due to gross incompetence on the part of its sponsors.

[Uhuniau]

I am shocked to learn that a project spearheaded by members of the right-wing eastern European diaspora might have connections to Nazi collaborators.

[zzptichka]

Apparently, they seem to have resumed work.
Won't surprise me if they drop the art leaving only concrete slabs with some plaque

[acottawa]

Along with members of parliament and cabinet, the organizing committee for this project was prominently featured in Russia’s sanctions list.

[OTownandDown]

Can we just finish the thing and then do an improv to monuments on the plaque:

yes, AND

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[Harley613]

They just shut this one down for the whole winter I guess.

[J.OT13]

How many millions did the Feds inject in this stupid monument? Where did all the money go?

[acottawa]

I think the fact that it bothers the Kremlin enough that they sanctioned it’s organizing committee proves its value.

[GoTrans]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

How many millions did the Feds inject in this stupid monument? Where did all the money go?

The money was never there as the proponent never raised the money it originally said it was going to raise. The Conservatives propped the project up with public funds followed by the Liberals rather than letting the project die.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by GoTrans

The money was never there as the proponent never raised the money it originally said it was going to raise. The Conservatives propped the project up with public funds followed by the Liberals rather than letting the project die.

That's the money I'm talking about: taxpayer money. Government contribution should not have gone beyond donating the land. Now millions have just disappeared.

I don't really care about the people who willingly contributed to this scam.

[zzptichka]

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by acottawa

I think the fact that it bothers the Kremlin enough that they sanctioned it’s organizing committee proves its value.

Not sure that is sufficient but t's weird the hatred the project gets from this thread and twitter. I mean given worldwide numbers that if anything are amplified by immigration patterns a lot more Canadians have a family member who is a victim of communism than fascism. Maybe that should count for something.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Not sure that is sufficient but t's weird the hatred the project gets from this thread and twitter. I mean given worldwide numbers that if anything are amplified by immigration patterns a lot more Canadians have a family member who is a victim of communism than fascism. Maybe that should count for something.

Communism fanboys

[zzptichka]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Not sure that is sufficient but t's weird the hatred the project gets from this thread and twitter. I mean given worldwide numbers that if anything are amplified by immigration patterns a lot more Canadians have a family member who is a victim of communism than fascism. Maybe that should count for something.

The unintended consequence of their insistence on "Communism" rather than say "Totalitarianism" in the name, is that it will be hard to add the ongoing Russian invasion to the list.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by zzptichka

The unintended consequence of their insistence on "Communism" rather than say "Totalitarianism" in the name, is that it will be hard to add the ongoing Russian invasion to the list.

It is an important distinction. Communism caused a lot of deaths aside from totalitarianism. Totalitarianism has a more mixed track record depending on how you define it.

Anyway invading another country is fairly typical and not directly related to the governmental system. But yes less likely in a democratic country.