1780 E Broadway | 144m, 125m, 122m | 44fl, 38fl, 37fl | Proposed

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I'm pretty certain the Broadway Plan won't make much difference at Commercial and Broadway. That's because the Grandview Plan already allows rezonings on a larger neighbourhood - not just the single lot that is owned by Crombie. That's why this 12-storey rental building is already almost complete less than a block from the Safeway site.

I rather think that Metrotown and Richmond City Centre affected how Vancouver started to rezone Oakridge Centre & Broadway Corridor in the first place. Now that we have the Broadway Corridor approved, it will definitely affect Commercial/Broadway.

I'm hoping the City can revisit the Grandview plan and make big changes to it: something similar to what they did with the Oakridge Town Centre's OCP. At the moment the higher buildings are only beside the skytrain station and on the arterial roads.

[cov]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I'd say that attitude is rather typical of the arrogance of those who work at city hall.

lol, watching this dude struggle is pure theatre. You got a couple more racial references to make this time? because that would turn this conversation into a home run

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by cov

lol, watching this dude struggle is pure theatre. You got a couple more racial references to make this time? because that would turn this conversation into a home run

Like I said, typical city hall worker arrogance. Coupled with the job for life mentality it leads to the incompetent lecturing those who pay their salaries about what's good for them.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Vin

I rather think that Metrotown and Richmond City Centre affected how Vancouver started to rezone Oakridge Centre & Broadway Corridor in the first place.

Keep thinking; it didn't.

Originally Posted by Vin

Now that we have the Broadway Corridor approved, it will definitely affect Commercial/Broadway.

It will. Instead of a lot of people having to get off trains and stand waiting for a bus outside Shopper's Drug Mart, they'll carry on in the train.

Originally Posted by Vin

I'm hoping the City can revisit the Grandview plan and make big changes to it: something similar to what they did with the Oakridge Town Centre's OCP. At the moment the higher buildings are only beside the skytrain station and on the arterial roads.

This Council won't. The next Council might be more opposed to development than this one - there's no way of telling, but it seems unlikely they'll want to fight with Grandview again, so soon after the last plan, especially as there is Grandview opposition to the Broadway Plan. And the Oakridge Town Centre Plan wasn't revisited; the Cambie Corridor Plan (which isn't an OCP) was phased. Phase 3 covers the rest of the Municipal Centre beyond the Oakridge rezoning. None of the policies in the earlier phases were changed.

[Feathered Friend]

https://council.vancouver.ca/20220607/documents/rr8.pdf

Start your engines! On June 7th City council will (likely) vote to refer 1780 E Broadway to a public hearing sometime in July where the real "fun" will happen. Surprisingly, it's not the most opposed project that will go before them over the next two months, as that honor belongs to the social housing building proposed by the Arbutus station, which has 955 letters against, and will be heard on June 28th.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Keep thinking; it didn't.

Trust me, it did. In fact, many neighbourhoods at the borders with neighbouring municipalities are densifying. I call it peer pressure.

Originally Posted by Changing City

It will. Instead of a lot of people having to get off trains and stand waiting for a bus outside Shopper's Drug Mart, they'll carry on in the train.

Not if there are a lot more people living in the neighbourhood when more densification occurs. If not, it will remain a sketchy area.

Originally Posted by Changing City

This Council won't. The next Council might be more opposed to development than this one - there's no way of telling, but it seems unlikely they'll want to fight with Grandview again, so soon after the last plan, especially as there is Grandview opposition to the Broadway Plan. And the Oakridge Town Centre Plan wasn't revisited; the Cambie Corridor Plan (which isn't an OCP) was phased. Phase 3 covers the rest of the Municipal Centre beyond the Oakridge rezoning. None of the policies in the earlier phases were changed.

In that case, the contrast between Brentwood Town Centre in Burnaby and just across the border would be even more stark. Within a decade, crossing from Burnaby to Vancouver will be similar to leaving downtown for the suburbs.

[Migrant_Coconut]

What's even more drastic is the contrast between Brentwood and Brentwood Park just behind it. At least the PNE area has laneways and basement suites to add density.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

What's even more drastic is the contrast between Brentwood and Brentwood Park just behind it. At least the PNE area has laneways and basement suites to add density.

is that any different than Oakridge?

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Vin

Trust me, it did. In fact, many neighbourhoods at the borders with neighbouring municipalities are densifying. I call it peer pressure.

The shocking one is the proposed densification at Nanaimo Station - more than 35 years after the line opened.

Originally Posted by Vin

In that case, the contrast between Brentwood Town Centre in Burnaby and just across the border would be even more stark. Within a decade, crossing from Burnaby to Vancouver will be similar to leaving downtown for the suburbs.

The drive into Vancouver through Burnaby on Hwy 1 is pretty dramatic now with the towers of Brentwood forming a backdrop.
Then you exit at 1st Ave. and you drive past largely single family houses and low-rises until you get the downtown Vancouver vista at Clark Drive.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

is that any different than Oakridge?

I'd say yes, Brentwood Park is the epitome of 1950s suburban design. 50ft lots, one continuous lawn stretching for blocks, meandering streets making passage through it by transit or visitors difficult keeping the riff-raff out, all it's missing is the white picket fences. At least the Oakridge site has lowrises around it, Brentwood Town Centre to Brentwood Park is a 50 story vertical cliff.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

is that any different than Oakridge?

Yeah, there's a lot of suburbia behind Oakridge, but it's also got walkups and secondary suites, and many of those will be turning into midrises by 2030... the Brentwood suburbia isn't even zoned for laneways yet.

[idunno]

^Not to mention there'll be a forest of 4, 6 and 18 storey towers surrounding Oakridge, Heather Lands to the north, OTC to the west, and Pearson-Dogwood not far to the south.

I wonder how long it'll be before Willingdon N of Brentwood Town Centre starts to densify towards Hastings.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by idunno

I wonder how long it'll be before Willingdon N of Brentwood Town Centre starts to densify towards Hastings.

When Hastings / Willingdon Skytrain is officially announced there will be a mad dash of parcel acquisition and rezoning requests.

[Jimbo604]

It's happening! City Hall has scheduled the public hearing for this.

Should be exciting. In one corner you have the center or certainly one of contenders for the center of Vancouver nimbyness and in the other corner people that think building something over 10 stories at the busiest transit station in the region is a good idea.

https://shapeyourcity.ca/1780-e-broadway
Online Public Hearing: Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 6:00 pm
These Public Hearings are to be convened by electronic means, with in-person attendance also available. You may participate in the Public Hearing either by speaking by phone or in person, or by submitting written comments that will be distributed to the Mayor and Councillors.
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Requests to speak open at 8:30 am on Friday, June 24, 2022 until 5:00 pm on the day of the Public Hearing. All spoken and written comments will be publicly accessible on the City of Vancouver’s website with your full name attached.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

In one corner you have the center or certainly one of contenders for the center of Vancouver nimbyness and in the other corner people that think building something over 10 stories at the busiest transit station in the region is a good idea.

Well when you put it like that

[Jimbo604]

https://shapeyourcity.ca/1780-e-broadway

The public hearing has now been postponed. No revised date currently available. City hall meetings end in two weeks for summer and then it is the election in October.

[seamusmcduff]

This is ridiculous. Council should be embarrassed by how much they're letting NIMBYs restrict development around the busiest Skytrain station in the region, on underutilized piece of land that will have minimal impacts on the surrounding community once developed.

[Migrant_Coconut]

More like Council should be embarrassed they're taking a whole three months off. Even teachers only get two.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by seamusmcduff

This is ridiculous. Council should be embarrassed by how much they're letting NIMBYs restrict development around the busiest Skytrain station in the region, on underutilized piece of land that will have minimal impacts on the surrounding community once developed.

It says more about how the public hearings system can be manipulated than whatever council wants to do or not do.

[hollywoodnorth]

I have two words for this F*CK and YES!


Taller towers for more rental homes in revised Safeway redevelopment proposal at SkyTrain Commercial-Broadway Station

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/broadway...t-revised-skytrain-rental-housing-towers

After the October 2022 civic election, a revised rezoning application will be brought forward to Vancouver City Council to consider taller building heights for the “Broadway Commercial” project.

Tower A closest to the Expo Line platforms has grown from 29 storeys to 38 storeys — the revision’s largest height increase of nine storeys. Tower B fronting East Broadway is now 34 storeys instead of the previous 29 storeys, while Tower C fronting East 10th Avenue on the southeastern corner of the site is now 31 storeys instead of 24 storeys.