Vancouver General Discussion Thread

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I remember my colleague telling me about this and there was some reason for it, too, but I forget what it was. I hate full service stations, as it always feels awkward to use one.

Richmond is the same way. It's their last attachment to being a small town and the good old days.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2020/03/29...nd-to-give-up-full-service-gas-stations/

[SpongeG]

it was a city bylaw which is aimed to create jobs mainly for younger people starting out.

So tonight I went to Mobil at superstrore in Coquitlam Centre to get gas and the girl who filled it up said you want it filled so I said yes sat back in the car and she filled it up like full, beyond the $30 limit so I guess the full service ones aren't following the limits.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

beyond the $30 limit

Isn't it a 30 litre limit? That would be about $45.

[officedweller]

Yup, 30 litres.

To enforce rationing, the Shell station maxed out the pumps at $45 per purchase. If drivers want more gas, they will have to go inside to plead their case. It holds people accountable and requires them to be honest.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/shell-station-sets-pump-limits-to-enforce-gas-rationing-1.5680501

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Isn't it a 30 litre limit? That would be about $45.

that's what i meant. Gas was down to 152.9 at most stations I passed today

[jollyburger]

I think some stations did a $40 limit to prevent people going over the 30L limit

[SpongeG]

I went to Seattle on Saturday. Got to use the new LRT expansion. We parked at the Northgate park n ride and took the train downtown, it's very easy if you are planning a day visit and you can avoid traffic and parking downtown.

The station at Northgate is so massive and high up compared to here. Anyway, the ride is really quiet and smooth compared to Skytrain with all its squeaking and grinding and in a tunnel all the way.

There was some kind of comic con going on and on the train back at least 50% of those who got on at Westlake got off at Northgate. The frequencies are very long though, we are really spoiled here in how short of a time you have to wait for a train.

The expansion to Lynnwood is well under construction and very visible along the I5. Stations are pretty far apart and not in the most built-up areas but look like there is a lot of bus connections to them. Will be great once it's completed.

[whatnext]

About bloody time. These things are eyesores and you have to wonder how much human waste ends up in False Creek:

Vancouver police issue 100 notices to boaters in False Creek
‘Many of the boats floating in False Creek are in poor condition, often without working engines and unable to move without assistance’
-Mike Howell
-about an hour ago

The Vancouver Police Department’s marine unit issued approximately 100 notices in February and March to boat owners in False Creek who overstayed their allowable anchoring time, a problem that has increased since the coronavirus pandemic was declared in March 2020.

Police cited the Federal Contravention Act in six cases to issue tickets worth $288 each to boaters who refused to leave the Creek, according to Sgt. Steve Addison, a VPD media relations officer.

“Many of the boats in False Creek have been there for months, if not years, and we continue to hear concerns about safety and pollution from False Creek residents, boaters and people who use the area for recreational activities such as kayaking, paddle boarding and rowing,” Addison said in an email.

Park board marina staff also noticed a significant increase over the past two years in the number of boaters who continue to anchor in the Creek without a permit.

Data provided to Vancouver Is Awesome shows 3,837 boaters anchored without permits last year and 1,878 in 2020.

Those numbers compare to an average of 584 boaters anchoring without a permit between 2015 and 2019......

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by whatnext

About bloody time. These things are eyesores and you have to wonder how much human waste ends up in False Creek:

Vancouver police issue 100 notices to boaters in False Creek
‘Many of the boats floating in False Creek are in poor condition, often without working engines and unable to move without assistance’
-Mike Howell
-about an hour ago

The Vancouver Police Department’s marine unit issued approximately 100 notices in February and March to boat owners in False Creek who overstayed their allowable anchoring time, a problem that has increased since the coronavirus pandemic was declared in March 2020.

Police cited the Federal Contravention Act in six cases to issue tickets worth $288 each to boaters who refused to leave the Creek, according to Sgt. Steve Addison, a VPD media relations officer.

“Many of the boats in False Creek have been there for months, if not years, and we continue to hear concerns about safety and pollution from False Creek residents, boaters and people who use the area for recreational activities such as kayaking, paddle boarding and rowing,” Addison said in an email.

Park board marina staff also noticed a significant increase over the past two years in the number of boaters who continue to anchor in the Creek without a permit.

Data provided to Vancouver Is Awesome shows 3,837 boaters anchored without permits last year and 1,878 in 2020.

Those numbers compare to an average of 584 boaters anchoring without a permit between 2015 and 2019......

finally. the Hobo Boat (or Hoboat) situation is out of hand. the amount of garbage they leave around the area and feces and garbage they toss into the water is sickening.

[hollywoodnorth]

another story on the Hobo Boats (aka Hoboats / Boboats)

Abandoned boat targeted by looters in False Creek

Many waterfront communities in B.C. have long struggled to deal with derelict boats and in Vancouver’s False Creek neighbourhood abandoned vessels are now being looted by thieves.


https://globalnews.ca/video/8713180/abandoned-boat-targeted-by-looters-in-false-creek/



and FYI the man interviewed in the story is what 90%+ of people living in the area feel. Including me.

[Klazu]

Yeah, it is pretty incredible how prime places like False Creek can have any, not to mention so many, hobo boats. Homeless tents fill our parks and rusting RVs occupy parking lots and side streets. We have turned to a shithole and many continue to deny it. I can tell you that most of the major cities around the world, especially in Asia, don't have anything that would compare to the failed West Coast cities.

I was recently reading several travel blogs from people visiting Vancouver for the first time. Everyone had seen the beautiful pictures and the trip was one of their most expected ever, only to find the city to be occupied by druggies and homeless. It was interesting to read what kind of shock this was to everyone and how Vancouver ended up not being the highlight of their trip. Several even advised not to visit, which was very interesting. All these post were from the last four years and I look forward to reading some 2022 stories soon...

[Feathered Friend]

Yesterday’s Urban Design Panel meeting began on a sombre note as it was revealed long time volunteer, honoured BCSLA landscape architect, and West Vancouver District planner Collette Parsons has passed after a brief battle with cancer.

Her efforts to understand the communities she helped shape were strongly commended. While we didn’t have a personal relationship with this feisty mentor, we recognize the positive contributions she’s made to Vancouver, & offer those who knew & loved her our heartfelt condolences

https://www.remembering.ca/obituary/colette-parsons-1085185135

[djh]

We tow cars that are illegally parked.

Why don't the VPD's marine unit simply tow the illegally moored boats away and the owners have to pay a fee to get them released back to them?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by djh

We tow cars that are illegally parked.

Why don't the VPD's marine unit simply tow the illegally moored boats away and the owners have to pay a fee to get them released back to them?

These are more like the RVs parked on the streets with people living in them. We don't really tow those.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Surely the wrecked boats have registration? Slap the owners with the mother of all littering fines.

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by djh

We tow cars that are illegally parked.

Why don't the VPD's marine unit simply tow the illegally moored boats away and the owners have to pay a fee to get them released back to them?

sadly its Transport Canada regulations. I have had detailed talks with the VPD Maritime Unit and apparently their hands are tied due to inadequate rules from Transport Canada. they cant tow them otherwise they could face a lawsuit. Its a f*cked up situation to say the least.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Surely the wrecked boats have registration? Slap the owners with the mother of all littering fines.

LOL of course they don't. This is homeless park squatting, just on water.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

LOL of course they don't. This is homeless park squatting, just on water.

I'm not doubting you, but for the love of Eywa, exactly how are homeless people getting boats?

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I'm not doubting you, but for the love of Eywa, exactly how are homeless people getting boats?

do you know how much it costs to properly RECYCLE a old boat thats past its prime? yes I know the proper term is BREAK

THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS. 10K easy.

so .... you sell for $1/gift it to a hobo and suddenly you no longer need to recycle ... the ship. some hobo rides it into the ground or in this case into the bottom of the ocean and then tax payer dollars will pick have to salvage it and remediate the area.



https://globalnews.ca/news/8439418/concerns-raised-vessels-vancouver-false-creek/

Under the Canada Marine Act, the Port of Vancouver can take action to remove vessels that pose an environmental or navigational safety risk, but generally they remain the responsibility of owners.

“It could easily be 10 to 20 grand to get rid of a boat responsibly,” Jonathan Paetkau with Skookum Yacht Services said.

“The real problem of course is that no boat owner is going to do that willingly if they can turn around and sell it for two or three grand.”

If people are living aboard the boats, Transport Canada says it’s up to the City of Vancouver to manage the issue through its permit system.

The City of Vancouver declined an interview request on the matter Thursday.

John Roe, director of the Dead Boat Disposal Society, told Global News the issue was partly a result of complicated bureaucracy across multiple levels of government.

“We just need to be able to shorten up that timeline between what is a derelict boat and how fast is it going to get out of the water, that’s where the whole problem stems right now,” he said.

“It can take us six months to a year for us to process a boat to get the right to seizure.”

Roe said he wants a made-in-B.C. body focused specifically on derelict vessel and docks that can cut through the red tape and move quickly to address the boats, and their potential environmental impacts.

[dreambrother808]

The co-op I moved to in River District still has 20 empty units, which is putting a financial strain on the venture.

It is a great co-op, with nice units for below market prices.

If anyone is interested or knows someone who might be, please pass it along.

https://fraserviewcoop.ca/residences