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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 2:26 PM
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Of all the Vancouver area proposals only one is stale / dead in the water. All the rest have a pulse, in fact most of them over the last month have had major updates / moved forward in the process. Several are also new proposals just released this year.

Two of them have broken ground this month (the two Concord Metrotown Towers).
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 2:42 PM
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My guess land use changes aren't a public affair in Montreal and development approval expires without movement.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 3:06 PM
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307 Lakeshore reminds me of this proposal for 1075 Barclay in Vancouver:



https://www.urbanyvr.com/mid-century-residential-tower/

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The tower will replace the Barclay Terrace condominium, built in 1992, as well as an adjacent multi-unit house.

As we reported in 2018, owners of the Barclay Terrace received big payouts — for example, $2.6 million for a one-bedroom assessed at $793,000 — when the strata was wound up.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 3:13 PM
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 3:17 PM
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It looks like they went all-in on the pigeon deterrent system.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 3:36 PM
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307 Lakeshore reminds me of this proposal for 1075 Barclay in Vancouver:



https://www.urbanyvr.com/mid-century-residential-tower/
The rounded points or serrated bread knife makes a world of difference
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 4:01 PM
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It looks like they went all-in on the pigeon deterrent system.

OMG LOL dead

Yeah, these aren't exactly the nicest looking towers.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 5:24 PM
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Here is the diagram of all the Toronto 150 mete towers that will become stale proposals at the end of the year: https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=97403931
Looking at those, it appears not much care is taken for dates on multi-stage developments in Toronto.

Some Sugar Wharf towers, for example, were never expected to start before LCBO could be relocated into the new tower on the same development.

One Delisle isn't stale. The database is wrong about the expected completion date though; 2022 was never a reasonable expectation.

Humber Bay has 12 towers all finishing in 2030. It would be nice if guestimates were treated a bit differently.

There are indeed many stale proposals in that list, including a few projects that were not serious proposals to begin with, but some records are simply incorrect.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 6:01 PM
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I lost my blindfold for my completion date dartboard. The dates were a means to tell the age of the proposal and do an update every few years. There's too many big, multi-tower with 20 year development plans now that will take ten years to approve. That was just silly to post all the 2022 and say they will be move to stale proposals at the end of the year.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 6:22 PM
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One Delisle started construction a few weeks ago.

I could see the following on that list starting in the next 12 months:

- 591 sherbourne
- Natasha
- Cumberland Square A
- Cumberland Square B
- 10 St Mary
- Ryerson Science Building
- 60 Queen St E
- Sugar Wharf A
- Sugar Wharf B

A bunch more would fall in the 12-24 month timeline. Only probably about a quarter of them are really "stale" and unlikely to proceed in the near term, or at least have fallen into a 'no activity" purgatory. The big office proposals are also all on the question board depending on how their leasing efforts are going, making it hard to know how soon they will get built.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 6:29 PM
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Yes I was too ridgid in my wording there... I meant that they could become stale
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 6:30 PM
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wow. That would put Toronto only 9 behind Chicago
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 7:00 PM
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Excellent news... pictures would be more than welcome.
Just starting digging, nothing too exciting. Apparently it's gone to 45 floors, 146 metres now.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 7:35 PM
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A rather significant ruling today by the Land and Property Rights Tribunal here in Canmore.

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Tribunal orders Town to approve Smith Creek, Three Sisters Village ASPs

https://www.rmotoday.com/canmore/tribuna...creek-three-sisters-village-asps-5377913
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 8:20 PM
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Major redevelopment of a Kanata North office complex and massive surface parking lot. Nokia is proposing 1,900 residential units, 4k m2 of retail and 46k m2 of office space.

The office complex, in the west Ottawa suburb high-tech park, isn't even that old, mostly built in the 90s.

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Credit to Marcus CLS who posted the original devapps link in the General Suburban updates



Here are the main details:

1.0 INTRODUCTION

Novatech has prepared this Planning Rationale on behalf of Nokia Canada Inc. to support Official Plan and Zoning By-law Amendment applications for a site on two municipal addresses – 570 and 600 March Road (together the “Subject Site”).

Nokia proposes a mixed use development comprising the relocation of the existing Nokia offices to the southern end of the Subject Site and mixed use buildings and a park on a new private street network.

Note that this Planning Rationale should be read together with the Design Brief by Gensler Architects to fully comply with the Terms of Reference for the Design Brief.

2.0 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL

The existing office building on the Subject Site no longer meets Nokia’s requirements and will be demolished and the large surface parking lot will be removed. A new office campus for Nokia is proposed at the southern end of the site. It will be subject of a separate Site Plan Control application. The current concept is for a building with a low-rise base with retail and a podium-top amenity area for occupants of the building, with a four storey and a 10 storey tower extending above this. Conceptually, 46,000m2 of office and laboratory space is proposed, along with 3,200m2 of ground floor retail/commercial, for an approximate Floor Space Index (FSI) of 1.06. A total of 1,344 car parking spaces are proposed for the Nokia office building.

The building will address a proposed pedestrian oriented street (‘Lifestyle Street’ on the plans) that will link March Road and Legget Drive and will also connect the office building with the rest of the site. Vehicle access to the new office building will be from March Road and Legget Drive via a driveway to the south of the building that is away from the main pedestrian access. Visitor vehicle access is to the west of the new office building from March Road.

North of the new Nokia office campus the Subject Site will be developed in the future and will be subject to future development applications. Conceptually, it is intended for this part of the site to be developed for 11 towers of 13 to 29 storeys with podiums of six to eight storeys. The two towers in both Buildings C and D share a podium. Across the broader site 1,900 residential units and an FSI of 3.0 are conceptually proposed. A total of 4,500m2 of retail is conceptually proposed for this northern part of the site, along with a total of 2,410 car parking spaces.

The building are conceptually arranged around the edges of the site with the internal part of the site available for a north south pedestrian oriented private street, public parkland and extensive landscaping. The pathway around the site’s perimeter with access into the site at multiple points provides a high level of pedestrian permeability. A signature urban plaza provides a primary, ‘gateway’ pedestrian access directly from the future Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) stop at the intersection of March Road and Terry Fox Drive immediately to the northwest of the Subject Site. Vehicular entrances are limited to the north-south street and the east-west street separating this Official Plan Amendment and Zoning By-law Amendment 570 and 600 March Road 3 part of the site from the Nokia office campus. Except for limited on street parking, parking is undercover.

Two new private streets are proposed. One runs east-west between March Road and Legget Drive (‘Lifestyle Street’ on the plans). The second runs north-south connecting the Lifestyle Street with Terry Fox Drive. These streets are intended to function well for all users and have conceptual cross-sections designed to serve all users... etc

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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 8:25 PM
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Winning design for Ottawa's Block 2 in front of Parliament:

Zeidler/David Chipperfield team proposal





It's the first presentation (41 minute mark).

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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 8:42 PM
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A rather significant ruling today by the Land and Property Rights Tribunal here in Canmore.

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Tribunal orders Town to approve Smith Creek, Three Sisters Village ASPs

https://www.rmotoday.com/canmore/tribuna...creek-three-sisters-village-asps-5377913
Wow - I thought Three Sisters was dead in the water.
Was this based on some kind of appeal by the developers ?
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 8:52 PM
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Winning design for Ottawa's Block 2 in front of Parliament:

Zeidler/David Chipperfield team proposal
My immediate favourite of the proposals. I'm pleased.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 8:58 PM
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Happy to see Ottawa chose that one. Only design that worked with the heritage buildings rather than trying to overpower and outshine them.
     
     
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Old Posted May 17, 2022, 9:12 PM
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Wow - I thought Three Sisters was dead in the water.
Was this based on some kind of appeal by the developers ?
The developer appealed to the LPRT; this was the decision today.

They have also appealed to the Court of Appeal. No hearing set.
     
     
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