Gas Prices

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

in Surrey as of 8 pm the last station I passed on 108th was 214.9

Seems like it's down to 209.9 there already

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/british-columbia/surrey

[jollyburger]

199.9 in Burnaby

[whatnext]

Saw 227.9 today in Kerrisdale!

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Saw 227.9 today in Kerrisdale!

Up to 233.9 now

[Lexus]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Up to 233.9 now

Came back from Costco Bellingham yesterday with 4 cans. Saved $91.

[MIPS]

I knew I should of bought a propane conversion kit for the Eagle...

[giallo]

At this point in time, gas is almost five times more expensive than it was in 1999. Insane.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by giallo

At this point in time, gas is almost five times more expensive than it was in 1999. Insane.

I wonder what the taxes were like in the 1990s. Just GST?

1995 58.4
2000 69.1
2003 76.8
2005 97.1
2009 104.0

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-402-x/2010000/chap/ener/tbl/tbl03-eng.htm

[giallo]

Ah, weird. I could have sworn gas was like 47.9 when I was working at a Husky in the spring of 1999.

At any rate, these gas prices are brutal.

[Dave2]

Originally Posted by giallo

Ah, weird. I could have sworn gas was like 47.9 when I was working at a Husky in the spring of 1999.

At any rate, these gas prices are brutal.

That would have been during the ARCO price war of 1998/99.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Dave2

That would have been during the ARCO price war of 1998/99.

It was 35.9

https://www.hopestandard.com/news/watch-gas-price-war-in-langley/

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by giallo

Ah, weird. I could have sworn gas was like 47.9 when I was working at a Husky in the spring of 1999.

At any rate, these gas prices are brutal.

It would depend on where you were that spring. The post referenced annual (average?) pricing but Statistics Canada has month-to-month averages by major city:

Monthly average retail prices for gasoline and fuel oil, by geography (1990-2022)

Looks liek Edmonton and Calgary (as well as Charlottetown) were in that range during that time.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by giallo

At this point in time, gas is almost five times more expensive than it was in 1999. Insane.

Still less than the increase in housing prices!

[giallo]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Still less than the increase in housing prices!

The rain is free, at least.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by giallo

The rain is free, at least.

And plentiful!

[WarrenC12]

Nice to drive an EV. BC Hydro only changes the price once a year. April 1, 2022 was a 1.4% decrease.

[Dave2]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

It was 35.9

https://www.hopestandard.com/news/watch-gas-price-war-in-langley/

Cheapest I remember at the height of the gas war was the high 20s outside of the GVRD; stations were basically selling the gas for the price of the tax alone!

[logicbomb]

Wish the people who fought over masks and mandates were as passionate about the blatant gouging we are seeing across all spectrums. Grocery prices have gone out of whack and now gas gouging is prevalent and there's little to no pushback. Instead, the anger continues to be directed at the governments who have little to no control (this is coming from a person who despises the NDP and the Federal liberals). Extra pipelines wouldn't have done shit for us in terms of refined fuel costs, we needed refineries here and many large energy companies preferred offshoring them. Even if we scrap gas taxes, we are still going to see prices inch towards $3 due to increased global demand and artificially low supply. Sky is the limit with gas prices. China is opening up and prices for refined petrol will be going EVEN HIGHER.

There's little to no regulation and consumers are going to feel the pinch in many ways in the next year. Small businesses will undoubtedly suffer trying to stay afloat with the very high operating costs while trying to provide livable wages.

In hindsight, we should have never privatized Petro-Canada and sold off our resources for next to nothing. Oh well, historically high lumber costs, historically high gas prices. We reap what we sow.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by giallo

At this point in time, gas is almost five times more expensive than it was in 1999. Insane.

During the gas war there was one single day in Maple Ridge when a few gas stations went as low as 29.9 cents a litre. My parents obviously filled up the truck that day.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by logicbomb

Wish the people who fought over masks and mandates were as passionate about the blatant gouging we are seeing across all spectrums. Grocery prices have gone out of whack and now gas gouging is prevalent and there's little to no pushback. Instead, the anger continues to be directed at the governments who have little to no control (this is coming from a person who despises the NDP and the Federal liberals). Extra pipelines wouldn't have done shit for us in terms of refined fuel costs, we needed refineries here and many large energy companies preferred offshoring them. Even if we scrap gas taxes, we are still going to see prices inch towards $3 due to increased global demand and artificially low supply. Sky is the limit with gas prices. China is opening up and prices for refined petrol will be going EVEN HIGHER.

There's little to no regulation and consumers are going to feel the pinch in many ways in the next year. Small businesses will undoubtedly suffer trying to stay afloat with the very high operating costs while trying to provide livable wages.

In hindsight, we should have never privatized Petro-Canada and sold off our resources for next to nothing. Oh well, historically high lumber costs, historically high gas prices. We reap what we sow.

Well the Chinese were going to pony up $13 billion to help finance that Kitimat refinery project a decade ago. There's a reason there are no refineries they are expensive to build, no one will let them build them in their backyard and the margins aren't always that great especially considering the outlook for fossil fuels.

Or your argument that pipelines wouldn't help with refined gas but that we sold away all our resources seems in opposition to selling resources (sure it's bitumen and not refined).

You say this:

Instead, the anger continues to be directed at the governments who have little to no control (this is coming from a person who despises the NDP and the Federal liberals).

Then this:

In hindsight, we should have never privatized Petro-Canada and sold off our resources for next to nothing.

Which means anger should be directed at the government so they can go create another Petro-Canada for the future oil crisis