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View Poll Results: Who should be the next mayor of Ottawa?
Mark Sutcliffe 8 15.38%
Catherine McKenney 43 82.69%
Bob Chiarelli 1 1.92%
Other 0 0%
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So if we assume most of Fleury's 11 votes in our poll would now choose McKenny, and I think that's a fair assumption to make, then McKenny wins the SSP Ottawa Municipal election in an even more MASSIVE landslide.

Let's just hope the suburban voters who want more Stroads, strip malls, and cookie cutter million dollar houses in cornfields don't ruin this election.
Hopefully by then whoever is premiere either strips Ottawa of is planning powers or severally curtails them. So McKenney can't make the housing situation worse, cause there last statement on housing was Ottawa already builds enough...
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Let's just hope the suburban voters who want more Stroads, strip malls, and cookie cutter million dollar houses in cornfields don't ruin this election.
Who's their horse in the race?
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So if we assume most of Fleury's 11 votes in our poll would now choose McKenny, and I think that's a fair assumption to make, then McKenny wins the SSP Ottawa Municipal election in an even more MASSIVE landslide.

Let's just hope the suburban voters who want more Stroads, strip malls, and cookie cutter million dollar houses in cornfields don't ruin this election.
We have to make the distinction between the SSP members and the general population. The SSP group isn't representative of the voting population. The average member might not have the same education level, urbanism interest, percentage of rural, suburb, urban citizen compared to the actual city population. So the results of the survey on this page will be biased towards one type of candidate.
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We have to make the distinction between the SSP members and the general population. The SSP group isn't representative of the voting population. The average member might not have the same education level, urbanism interest, percentage of rural, suburb, urban citizen compared to the actual city population. So the results of the survey on this page will be biased towards one type of candidate.
Well said. SSP and Reddit don't represent the entire City and I would think that both of those subsets would be more likely to vote for McKenney than the general electorate.
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'Crisis to crisis' — Matt Fleury, kid councillor now Dad, on the need to pause

Kelly Egan, Ottawa Citizen
May 12, 2022 • 6 hours ago • 3 minute read


Mathieu Fleury was first elected in 2010 as a fresh-faced lifeguard, not long out of school, age 24.

To considerable surprise, Fleury — still annoyingly fresh-faced — announced this week he won’t be running for mayor, nor will he contest his current job as councillor for Rideau-Vanier.

The kid is now a dad and, as they say, the world doesn’t look the same when you’ve grown another heart.

Possibly, we should have seen this coming. During the trucker blockade in February, he appeared at times to have his youthful idealism knocked for a loop.

There was the infamous meeting in which Diane Deans was — suddenly and with ceremony — plank-walked as chair of the Police Services Board in a council session that took on the appearance of a collective nervous breakdown.

Online streaming to an already jittery city only added to the drama.

Fleury was a little overwrought, lamenting the plight of his friend and ward-mate, Rawlson King, who was resigning his board seat in solidarity with Deans. The fresh face was absent that evening, as was council’s goodwill in firing its own lieutenant.

He spoke only vaguely about it, but Fleury admitted around the same time there were threats made to some councillors during the Freedom Convoy, hardly a thing to be taken lightly in a city feeling under siege.

“The short answer is no,” he said this week, when asked if the stress of the trucker blockade played a significant role in his decision to step away from public office.

“The more complex answer is I’ve lived on the frontline of non-stop crisis since the sinkhole.”

Fleury divided his career into two phases: the period between 2010 until 2017 when life was sunny in the Watson circle; the period from 2017 on, when it was less so.

His is not a sleepy rural ward, but home to the city’s most vexing problems: homelessness, the opioid crisis, a transitioning ByWard, poverty, housing intensification, bar-scene drunkenness, crime, Indigenous integration, Panda party madness, retail closures, it goes on and on.

Now throw into the mix the LRT’s shocking Rideau Street sinkhole, the Salvation Army’s plan for a Vanier “mega-shelter,” the Château Laurier’s mega-meh addition — and for good measure — cue the pandemic in March 2020.

“I feel like I’m running from crisis to crisis.”

He described a term in which he was not executing a reasoned game plan, but putting out fires. There were issues day and night, seven days a week, and he was chairing Ottawa Community Housing, a massive low-income landlord with myriad of its own problems.

The pervasive reach of social media did not help, crisis or not.

“It’s come full circle with social media. Now, we’re the call centres and it shouldn’t be that way.”

(He recalled a 6 a.m. message on the weekend about garbage in Strathcona Park, like he was a surrogate trash collector, too. I mean, where does it end?)

He admits he was schooled in the Watson mold of “show up at everything” but five nights a week does not mesh well with a five-year-old.

In pre-pandemic times, he could mix work and home life, taking the family to cut ribbons or open the fun fair. COVID changed all that.

So he’s taking a pause, and good for him. Lord knows we have enough political lifers in this town.

He remains positive and optimistic about the city he grew up in, and keen on public service. It is one of the reasons, in fact, he chooses not to dwell on the Freedom Convoy threats.

“I want people to run for office and I feel like speaking of any threats is real, but it’s a reason for someone not to put their name forward. And I want the opposite. I want a lot of folks to run for office.”

He’s proud of his accomplishments — too numerous to list here — and has gained real insight into the messy world of political deal-making, without turning into that awful thing: a young cynic.

I do wonder, though, whether his experience points to how these “close-to-the-people” elected positions inevitably lead to burnout. Being “a good guy” to anyone with a problem may be an admirable “skill set” but it’s also a recipe for exhaustion.

(And making “hard boundaries” in political life is just that — it’s hard.)

So yes, take a breather, take the kid to the splash pad, take your own long swim — the river will always be there.

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Who's their horse in the race?
Old man Chiarelli?
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I'm starting to be weary of McKenney. Their focus is very much on social issues. Not much in terms of long term vision. Pretty good when it comes to supporting ne developments, but not as much as Fleury. Voting against the new Civic parking garage, and the $150 million City contribution is a red flag.

I wish Fleury was in this race (maybe instead of McKenney to prevent vote splitting) as his record is more balanced.
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Old man Chiarelli?
110%. Our first mayor after amalgamation, right when the 'burbs sipped some rocket fuel and blasted off into outer regions.
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I'm starting to be weary of McKenney. Their focus is very much on social issues. Not much in terms of long term vision. Pretty good when it comes to supporting ne developments, but not as much as Fleury. Voting against the new Civic parking garage, and the $150 million City contribution is a red flag.

I wish Fleury was in this race (maybe instead of McKenney to prevent vote splitting) as his record is more balanced.
I like McKenney in general but im actually very weary of them as they are very close to Leiper and Menard and i find those 2 to be very hypocrite and NIMBY enablers. Leiper literally voted against a 6 story building in close proximity to the LRT and surrounded by higher building just this week. If you preach for climate mitigation and housing emergency and yet try to prevent a 6 story building in the core in proximity to the LRT then you are literally the problem. I'll actually be interest to see how she votes on the 54-60 Bayswater Ave. project once it get to council following this week planning committee in which Leiper was the only one to vote against it
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To put context to my earlier statement regarding McKenney -

Mayoral candidate Catherine McKenney stated on housing issue in Ottawa "it would seem from census data that we are building enough housing" as stated here in this consultation to Dean Tester of More housing Ottawa: https://youtu.be/LYxjYV7_FII?t=2947

As statement which is built on false assumption as explained Here: https://mikepmoffatt.medium.com/debu...t-2ae48fb44e3e

As for Fluery I have issues with some decisions and his inability at times to follow through with his stated goals, but he likely would have gotten my vote. Lets see what August 19th brings.
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Old man Chiarelli?
If we end up with a few far left and him the only centrist without a right wing candidate he would seem to have a chance. His age would help with some of that crowd.
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I like McKenney in general but im actually very weary of them as they are very close to Leiper and Menard and i find those 2 to be very hypocrite and NIMBY enablers.
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110%. Our first mayor after amalgamation, right when the 'burbs sipped some rocket fuel and blasted off into outer regions.
None of the old stock suburbanite political operatives I know are backing him.
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I'm starting to be weary of McKenney. Their focus is very much on social issues. Not much in terms of long term vision. Pretty good when it comes to supporting ne developments, but not as much as Fleury. Voting against the new Civic parking garage, and the $150 million City contribution is a red flag.

I wish Fleury was in this race (maybe instead of McKenney to prevent vote splitting) as his record is more balanced.
Councillor McKenney's disinterest and sometimes, it seems, even hostility to the bus transit service that actual serves residents Somerset and adjacent wards bothers the hell out of me.
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Hopefully by then whoever is premiere either strips Ottawa of is planning powers or severally curtails them. So McKenney can't make the housing situation worse, cause there last statement on housing was Ottawa already builds enough...
Very much disappointed by this. But still not voting for some suburbanite stroad builder.
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Rick Chiarelli says he expects to run for re-election in College ward

Taylor Blewett, Ottawa Citizen
Jun 06, 2022 • 34 minutes ago • 3 minute read


College ward Coun. Rick Chiarelli said Monday he expects he will run for re-election this fall.

It’s a declaration that will astound many, coming on the heels of a council term that saw Chiarelli’s salary suspended for 450 days over lewd and inappropriate behaviour reported by five women who worked in Chiarelli’s office or were interviewed by him for jobs. Chiarelli has denied the allegations, and maintained that stance Monday.

He spoke to his electoral intentions after attending an announcement on an affordable housing project under development in his ward.

Chiarelli was not among the event’s speakers, and his director of strategic affairs and communications, Chantal Lebel, said council members only received an invitation to the event on Friday afternoon, 17 minutes after the deadline to register attendance.

“As the councillor for the ward and the staff for the ward even, (it’s) very disturbing.”

Somerset ward Coun. Catherine McKenney, council’s housing and homelessness liaison, spoke alongside federal Housing Minister Ahmed Hussen and Nepean Liberal MP Chandra Arya.

Staff asked the officials in attendance to gather for a picture afterwards, but that plan disintegrated after Chiarelli joined the group. Arya could be seen hustling his minister away from the photo op.

Chiarelli said he wanted to attend Monday’s event “because I was involved right at the start of this, and I’ve taken a lot of heat for it,” from people in the area who opposed the project, which is located in Bells Corners.

Among the tenants the project will house once completed are women and families fleeing gender-based violence.

Asked if his attendance at the event was appropriate, Chiarelli said he’s denied the allegations against him and he’s still waiting for a format where he can challenge the evidence brought forward and present his own.

“But we can’t let the woke cancel culture come in here and turn this into a standard mode of operation in politics. Because if all someone has to do to get rid of a politician is get a couple of people to make accusations, then it’s going to be open season on everybody.”

Late last year, a three-judge panel dismissed Chiarelli’s legal challenge of an investigation by the City of Ottawa integrity commissioner into alleged lewd behaviour by Chiarelli. The integrity commissioner had found conduct violations related to Chiarelli’s inappropriate behaviour toward three women who had been looking for jobs in his office. The judges concluded that the integrity commissioner conducted a fair process that “reasonably accommodated” Chiarelli’s health issues.

Together with a second investigation into complaints by two women who worked in his office, Chiarelli was found to have five times violated council’s code of conduct. The integrity commissioner recommended a 90-day salary suspension for each, the harshest penalty available.

In April, CBC reported conduct allegations – which Chiarelli denied – by a sixth woman who worked part-time for Chiarelli from 2013 to 2015.

“There are a lot of things we need to accomplish,” Chiarelli said Monday of his motivation to run for re-election.

“Building back Bells Corners is a big part of it, and we’ve made huge steps, and now we’ve got affordable housing as part of the build back and that is something that we want to continue with too.”

His time in elected office dates back to the 1980s. He started as school board trustee, became a three-term councillor in the former city of Nepean, and has represented the College ward area at the City of Ottawa council table since 2001.

Two people have filed their nomination papers to run for the College ward council seat: Laine Johnson, who holds a leadership role at the Centretown Citizens Ottawa Corporation, and Granda Kopytko, a federal public servant at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada and national executive director with the Canadian Association of Professional Employees.

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Why? What is wrong with this guy? What the heck is going on in his head??
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Might be hoping that the geriatric vote will have forgotten about his gross behaviour and that the anyone but Chiarelli vote doesn't coalesce around a single candidate.
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Why? What is wrong with this guy? What the heck is going on in his head??
Career politician, what else is he going to do? The worst part is that name recognition is such a big part of municipal politics, I wonder if he could actually win.
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Might be hoping that the geriatric vote will have forgotten about his gross behaviour and that the anyone but Chiarelli vote doesn't coalesce around a single candidate.
This geriatric voter nas a very long memory and does not forget much. I remember when Rick Chiarelli was president of his high school student council and made a name for himself by lobbying the provincial government for increased funding for Catholic high schools.

Speaking of geriatrics, there is another Chiarelli running for office in the autumn. I wonder how many younger voters will be confused about which Chiarelli was accused of harassment?

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