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Old Posted May 6, 2022, 7:00 PM
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Looks like Eurowings may not be happening afterall.
No flights bookable until August now.
Very late for them to be pulling the plug for a late May start.
Bookings must not have been meeting expectations - probably shite
So that leaves KLM and Edelweiss (operates 2 flights per week mid June - mid Sept) as the two foreign long haul carriers this summer.

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Old Posted May 6, 2022, 8:32 PM
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Looks like Eurowings may not be happening afterall.
No flights bookable until August now.
Very late for them to be pulling the plug for a late May start.
Bookings must not have been meeting expectations - probably shite
So that leaves KLM and Edelweiss (operates 2 flights per week mid June - mid Sept) as the two foreign long haul carriers this summer.
Eurowings seems like something that would only work once we're completely over Covid (as in flights are completely back to normal and there's no fear of restrictions). Especially now that they'll basically replace Condor-they'll be successful but S22 is not the right time to launch.
     
     
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Looks like Eurowings may not be happening afterall.
No flights bookable until August now.
Very late for them to be pulling the plug for a late May start.
Bookings must not have been meeting expectations - probably shite
So that leaves KLM and Edelweiss (operates 2 flights per week mid June - mid Sept) as the two foreign long haul carriers this summer.
That’s okay Eurowings doesn’t operate to Calgary, as with them pulling it will help WestJet, Air Canada & KLM etc, have more demand on their Europe flights, to or from YYC for Spring and Summer 2022.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 1:09 PM
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To be fair, a May 23 start was overly optimistic. Alberta (heck Canada in general) is still pretty cold in May.

I was in Banff 3 years ago in mid-May. The temp never went above 5C-10C and it was snowing often.

A late June, early July start for a summer seasonal route to Canada is the norm anyways, so even with an August 1 start, Eurowings isn't too far off the mark. Flights are still bookable until October 15.

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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 2:04 PM
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Eurowings seems like something that would only work once we're completely over Covid (as in flights are completely back to normal and there's no fear of restrictions). Especially now that they'll basically replace Condor-they'll be successful but S22 is not the right time to launch.
Seems like for YYC yes. Just seems very late to pull the plug less than three weeks out. Surprised they didn’t delay until the last week of June or early July. To cancel all July flights definitely not a good sign for bookings. Whether they fly at all this year the jury’s still out. I read on another forum the flights are all being scrapped for summer 2022 but who knows.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 2:13 PM
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That’s okay Eurowings doesn’t operate to Calgary, as with them pulling it will help WestJet, Air Canada & KLM etc, have more demand on their Europe flights, to or from YYC for Spring and Summer 2022.
Etc? There is no “etc”
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 4:25 PM
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https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468539&p=23293315#p23293315

Acey's posts on airliners seem to suggest they pulled the plug on YYC. They advised the airport authority and ground handler that they aren't coming this summer.

If true, I find it ludicrous that they are still accepting bookings from August 1 to October 15 on their website.

https://www.eurowings.com/en/booking/flights/search.html

This kind of stuff shouldn't be allowed to happen. If you're going to pull the plug, do it properly and close all bookings.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 9:59 PM
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That’s okay Eurowings doesn’t operate to Calgary, as with them pulling it will help WestJet, Air Canada & KLM etc, have more demand on their Europe flights, to or from YYC for Spring and Summer 2022.
New carriers pulling out of YYC is bad.

I don't know why you cannot seem to grasp this simple concept.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 10:36 PM
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New carriers pulling out of YYC is bad.

I don't know why you cannot seem to grasp this simple concept.
It's very disappointing for sure. At first it seemed like Eurowings would basically replace Condor but now both are gone for the summer...not good.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 11:57 PM
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Around 90% LF for inaugural WestJet to Rome tonight.

Edit: westbound is around the same

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Old Posted May 8, 2022, 9:15 AM
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It's very disappointing for sure. At first it seemed like Eurowings would basically replace Condor but now both are gone for the summer...not good.
They have removed Calgary from their list of “experience our new destinations” page so probably safe to say summer 22 ain’t happening.
     
     
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Old Posted May 8, 2022, 3:38 PM
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It's very disappointing for sure. At first it seemed like Eurowings would basically replace Condor but now both are gone for the summer...not good.
Yeah. A post like that just drives me up the wall, such a nonsensical thing to say. WestJet runs the show here, they do not need "help" from Eurowings bailing. Braindead take.
     
     
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Around 90% LF for inaugural WestJet to Rome tonight.

Edit: westbound is around the same
Nice to see.

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Updated Summer 2022 YYC Intl long-haul summary (all to Europe)

43 flights per week - 41 of which will be operated by 789 Dreamliners

AC 7 LHR 789
AC 7 FRA 789
KL 7 AMS 789
WS 4 LHR 789
WS 5 LGW 789
WS 5 CDG 789
WS 3 DUB 789
WS 3 FCO 789
WK 2 ZRH 343

Wednesdays will have 8 flights
Sundays 7 flights
Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays 6 flights
Mondays and Tuesdays 5 flights
     
     
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Updated Summer 2022 YYC Intl long-haul summary (all to Europe)

43 flights per week - 41 of which will be operated by 789 Dreamliners

AC 7 LHR 789
AC 7 FRA 789
KL 7 AMS 789
WS 4 LHR 789
WS 5 LGW 789
WS 5 CDG 789
WS 3 DUB 789
WS 3 FCO 789
WK 2 ZRH 343

Wednesdays will have 8 flights
Sundays 7 flights
Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays 6 flights
Mondays and Tuesdays 5 flights
Great! Calgary YYC does well for Europe flights year round, (especially during Summers).

All YYC needs is flights to Asia to resume again & plus a Middle East destination at some point.

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YYC base Lynx Air is adding 2 more Domestic destinations for Summer 2022, which brings its total of 8 Canada destinations it operates to from YYC.

Calgary -Halifax YHZ 5x weekly from July 14, 2022
Calgary - St.Johns YYT 2x weekly from July 16, 2022

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/ly...xpansion-out-of-st-john-s-845604713.html

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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 4:45 PM
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^ the YYT and YHZ flights are operated via YYZ
     
     
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 7:42 PM
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YYC base Lynx Air is adding 2 more Domestic destinations for Summer 2022, which brings its total of 8 Canada destinations it operates to from YYC.

Calgary -Halifax YHZ 5x weekly from July 14, 2022
Calgary - St.Johns YYT 2x weekly from July 16, 2022

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/ly...xpansion-out-of-st-john-s-845604713.html
You mean zero destinations? Did you read it?
     
     
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Great! Calgary YYC does well for Europe flights year round, (especially during Summers).

All YYC needs is flights to Asia to resume again & plus a Middle East destination at some point.
I wonder if NRT ever comes back. It's kind of sad that we used to have PEK and NRT year round and now both are gone.
     
     
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