The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[superelevation]

Originally Posted by casper

What level of interlining is there between Via And Go?

The only places where there would hypothetically be a noteworthy amount of frequency compared to Capacity is Lakeshore East / Stouffville if HFR happens and goes that way. Right now LSE has three tracks or two in some places, but VIA runs a handful of daily trains.

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

It doesn't make sense why they didn't just give ownership of the new 3rd track to VIA. That way VIA would have a route all to itself and only move to CN track briefly when meeting VIA trains coming from the opposite direction. Or better yet, just build enough sidings so the CN track is never needed.

It seems like a good idea but the most efficient ops require use of all the tracks, and VIA is always going to rely on CN. I think negotiations are the key thing, Metrolinx seems to be slowly figuring it out - now that they are close to running a train every 30 mins to Hamilton over CN tracks.

[Reecemartin]

This city is building out a 60+ km rail transit system in just a couple of years, and we don't talk nearly enough about it. Come along as we take a look at the impressive progress, from tunnels to stations!

https://youtu.be/6_bSx4eqtdE

[casper]

Originally Posted by superelevation

The only places where there would hypothetically be a noteworthy amount of frequency compared to Capacity is Lakeshore East / Stouffville if HFR happens and goes that way. Right now LSE has three tracks or two in some places, but VIA runs a handful of daily trains.

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The real advantage of inclining is the ability for Via (or Go) to sell tickets that involve both a VIA and Go service on a single ticket.

So for example, if your in suburban Toronto being able to buy a single ticket from your nearest go station to Montreal as an example.

I know out here on the west coast, VIA and Willson's interline. That means VIA can sell a ticket from Edmonton to Victoria and the last part of the journey is on a Wilsons bus that goes across on BC Ferries.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Reecemartin

This city is building out a 60+ km rail transit system in just a couple of years, and we don't talk nearly enough about it. Come along as we take a look at the impressive progress, from tunnels to stations!

https://youtu.be/6_bSx4eqtdE

I really hate click bait. Why not simply say the name of the place?

It is Ottawa.

[Nouvellecosse]

Because it's a business, and one of its major goals it attracting viewership. Some titles attract more viewers than others, meaning some people who would watch with one title wouldn't watch with another.

I think it would be wrong if someone used a deceptive title such as implying that a different city is featured than actually is or overstating the scale of the project. But there's nothing wrong with not adding details that would discourage people from watching because they assume a certain city won't be interesting or to avoid giving away too much pertinent information without them watching.

[Rico Rommheim]

It's called a tease. And it worked I clicked on the video and I'm watching it as we speak. That's totally kosher as far as I'm concerned.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Because it's a business, and one of its major goals it attracting viewership. Some titles attract more viewers than others, meaning some people who would watch with one title wouldn't watch with another.

I think it would be wrong if someone used a deceptive title such as implying that a different city is featured than actually is or overstating the scale of the project. But there's nothing wrong with not adding details that would discourage people from watching because they assume a certain city won't be interesting or to avoid giving away too much pertinent information without them watching.

And that is what is wrong with media these days.The headline should give me enough information to know whether I want to open it. I get it, but I don't like it.

[Nouvellecosse]

But if some people wanted to watch the video to find out which city is building this impressive rail network, then the headline did give enough info for people to know whether or not they'd want to open it. Because it's pretty clear from the headline that watching the video would allow you to find out.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

But if some people wanted to watch the video to find out which city is building this impressive rail network, then the headline did give enough info for people to know whether or not they'd want to open it. Because it's pretty clear from the headline that watching the video would allow you to find out.

No different than "this miracle drug allows you to lose lots of weight fast" articles posted all over social media. To the intelligent, it is refereed to as click bait. RM makes good videos that I do watch. I just don't like how he is resorting to click bait like titles. Even in the description, not mention of where.

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

I really hate click bait. Why not simply say the name of the place?

It is Ottawa.

I really hate when people bitch about all the hard work that someone has done to bring us such informative videos and yet are too lazy to create their own. Added to this I really hate when people bitch about what someone names their own video like somehow they are suppose to take a poll and as if the creator of such a video holds a gun at your head forcing you to watch it.

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by Reecemartin

This city is building out a 60+ km rail transit system in just a couple of years, and we don't talk nearly enough about it. Come along as we take a look at the impressive progress, from tunnels to stations!

https://youtu.be/6_bSx4eqtdE

Thanks for yet another great vid Reece.

I know the reason they went low-floor LRT originally was because they expected the outer portions of the line to be at-grade but seeing that is not going to happen, has there been any talk of automating the line?

Also in terms of the line to Carleton, {always forget the name of it} has the city talked about running zero emissions vehicles in the future whether that catenary/battery/hydrogen?

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

No different than "this miracle drug allows you to lose lots of weight fast" articles posted all over social media. To the intelligent, it is refereed to as click bait. RM makes good videos that I do watch. I just don't like how he is resorting to click bait like titles. Even in the description, not mention of where.

Well, I did specifically mention in my first reply that "it would be wrong if someone used a deceptive title". So no, there's no comparison to an article that makes an exaggerated or outright false claim, especially by marketing a useless - or even dangerous - product intended to defraud people. I'm disappointed that you wouldn't be able to recognize such a clear and stark difference.

But I'm glad you enjoy RM Transit. It's developed into a great channel.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

I really hate when people bitch about all the hard work that someone has done to bring us such informative videos and yet are too lazy to create their own. Added to this I really hate when people bitch about what someone names their own video like somehow they are suppose to take a poll and as if the creator of such a video holds a gun at your head forcing you to watch it.

So you like click bait?

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Well, I did specifically mention in my first reply that "it would be wrong if someone used a deceptive title". So no, there's no comparison to an article that makes an exaggerated or outright false claim, especially by marketing a useless - or even dangerous - product intended to defraud people. I'm disappointed that you wouldn't be able to recognize such a clear and stark difference.

But I'm glad you enjoy RM Transit. It's developed into a great channel.

The way it was titled, I was trying to think of a transit that no one ever talks about. Ottawa was not on that list. When I think of expansion of transit, also, Ottawa is not on that list.

I liked how the videos had good titles that allowed me to know what it was about and where it was without watching it so that I can peruse through the ones I was interested in.

[WarrenC12]

He got everyone talking about it. Mission Accomplished.

[ssiguy]

[QUOTE=swimmer_spe;9617998]So you like click bait?

What you or I think is completely irrelevant, he can name it what ever he damn well pleases.

If you don't like the title feel free not to watch it.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

So you like click bait?

What you or I think is completely irrelevant, he can name it what ever he damn well pleases.

If you don't like the title feel free not to watch it.

Of course he can. I know on his channel he usually is good with naming them so that you know either the line or the city that it is referring to. I loathe click bait. It is the bane of life these days.

I'll go back to being the disgruntled vet yelling at the clouds.

[J81]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Did they spend $900 million though?


According to the audit, they spent $318.5 million for 70 km of triple track. It enabled additional trains, but resulted in worse travel time and on-time performance, contributing to a drop in ridership. https://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/parl_oag_201602_07_e_41251.html

70km of triple track on a 530km stretch of track. One of those sections of triple track is only 8 miles long which is hardly good for anything but parking a freight train or two on to let a couple VIAs pass. The most useful section is between Belleville and Napanee where CN can run their freights on track one right into Belleville yard out of the way of VIA trains. The other two sections the third track are hardly used.

[J81]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

I don't think GO taking over VIA in SWO would be difficult.

Remember VIA is half a rail system and half a political apparatus. VIA service is dictated by Ottawa and not VIA headquarters. Following this reality, you have to understand Trudeau considers Toronto and the rest of Ontario as being one in the same. Despite getting MPs from KW/London/Windsor, they were completely ignored when it came to cabinet posts. 14 of Ontario's cabinet posts are from the GTAH and one from Ottawa and the other from TB and only because the person is in charge of Northern Ontario affairs.

There is no way, in hell, that QC should have gotten HFR before London if it was run on a business case as opposed to a politically advantageous one.

Have you ever been on a GO train? Theres a reason why the daily GO train to London is empty. Nobody in their right mind wants to spend 5hrs on a GO train.

As far as VIA’s service in SWO goes, they would love to add a 5th daily Windsor train but CN wont let them. Its not uncommon to see 5 freight trains just between Aldershot and London and thats only 80 miles. VIA is at the mercy of CN and metrolinx.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by J81

Have you ever been on a GO train? Theres a reason why the daily GO train to London is empty. Nobody in their right mind wants to spend 5hrs on a GO train.

As far as VIA’s service in SWO goes, they would love to add a 5th daily Windsor train but CN wont let them. Its not uncommon to see 5 freight trains just between Aldershot and London and thats only 80 miles. VIA is at the mercy of CN and metrolinx.

Which only proves that what I have been saying needs to happen.
Every mainline in Canada needs to be double track.

[J81]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Which only proves that what I have been saying needs to happen.
Every mainline in Canada needs to be double track.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! No!!! No it does not! There you go again with ridiculously outrageous statements! Please stop. This is why nobody takes you seriously on this forum!