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Old Posted May 3, 2022, 9:54 PM
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Ottawa's airport looks to regain altitude as airlines re-establish routes, new carriers enter market

By: David Sali, OBJ
Published: May 3, 2022 3:19pm EDT


While Ottawa’s airport is slowly ascending from a pit of red ink as it begins to recover from the crushing effects of the pandemic, officials said this week it “will take some time” for the facility to rebuild its route network and return to operating at full capacity.

As COVID-19 restrictions ease, Ottawa International Airport Authority CEO Mark Laroche urged residents Monday to book tickets if they want to convince airlines to add more routes to the nation’s capital to their lists.

“We are not satisfied being a feeder to a large hub airport for decades to come,” he said during the airport’s annual general meeting, noting major U.S. carriers such as American and Delta have dropped the capital from their itineraries during the pandemic, with no timetable for their return.

“We hope to see all of our previous routes covered by one airline or another as quickly as possible as recovery builds.”

Laroche told the virtual gathering he sees plenty to be encouraged about as more carriers add Ottawa to their itineraries or re-establish routes that were suspended earlier in the pandemic.

For example, United reinstated its flights between Ottawa and Washington’s Dulles airport last fall, while WestJet and charter operators Air Transat and Sunwing began ferrying snowbirds to southern hot spots Cuba, Dominican Republic, Jamaica and Mexico in November.

In addition, Canadian budget airlines Flair and PAL launched service in and out of the capital last year. Last week, WestJet’s low-cost subsidiary Swoop entered the local market with flights to Edmonton, with plans to add Halifax and Winnipeg to its list of Ottawa routes later this summer.

While Edmonton-based Flair is currently in danger of losing its licence over questions about whether it meets domestic ownership requirements, Laroche said Ottawa has proven its worth as a sought-after destination for low-cost carriers.

“Whatever the outcome (of Flair’s licence review), this market is important,” he said.

Still, Laroche said the airport continues to navigate an uncertain path to the future as key employers like the federal government as well as private businesses grapple with what the return to the office will look like.

“We cannot disregard the impact these changes (such as hybrid work environments) could have on market demand at YOW,” he said, referring to the airport by its call letters.

More than 100 flights a day are now serving Ottawa’s terminal, compared with fewer than 20 at this point a year ago. The airport has already welcomed more than double the number of transborder and international passengers so far in 2022 than it did all of last year.

Laroche said the airport authority is working to keep burnishing Ottawa’s credentials as a major hub, such as talking with Toronto-based Porter about making the terminal a key part of its plans to expand to more U.S. and other foreign destinations.

He added that the airline is also in talks with Calgary-based budget carrier Lynx – which aims to operate 148 flights a week within Canada on more than a dozen routes by July – about putting YOW on its list, but said nothing has been finalized.

In addition, the airport CEO noted that many airlines rely on subsidies from various levels of government and local economic development agencies to make certain routes financially viable – an option that’s not available to him.

“Unfortunately, we do not have access to these types of incentives provided by other levels of government,” Laroche said. He said the airport is floating a plan to partner with the City of Ottawa and Ottawa Tourism to create an “air service development fund” aimed at enticing airlines to add more routes to the capital.

Fewer than 1.2 million passengers travelled through YOW last year, the airport authority said Monday, below the 1.4 million who passed through the terminal in 2020 as COVID-related travel restrictions continued to wreak havoc with the industry.

But airport officials had at least some cause for optimism as they surveyed the terminal’s 2021 financial statements.

The number of domestic travellers ticked up from just over one million in 2020 to 1.14 million last year, while the airport trimmed its net loss from $51.2 million two years ago to $36.7 million in 2021 thanks to a series of cost-cutting initiatives.

Meanwhile, the airport generated income of $56.6 million last year, nearly 17 per cent more than the $48.6 million it brought in the year before.

Airport improvement fees charged to passengers – the facility’s No. 1 source of income – jumped more than 30 per cent to $19.3 million, due in part to a fee hike from $28 to $35 per passenger that was imposed last summer.

Most of the airport’s other sources of revenue, including terminal and landing fees as well as concession revenues and parking fees, were flat or declined year-over-year as YOW’s total passenger count fell. The airport issued $100 million in bonds to help cover its losses.

While the airport authority paused most major capital projects last year in an effort to cut costs, work at the terminal is now heating up.

Construction began Monday on a new taxiway – the first major tarmac infrastructure project at YOW in 25 years. And Laroche said work on the revamped concessions area – a plan that was unveiled with much fanfare in 2019 – will start this summer, with the first outlets, including a new Big Rig restaurant and brew pub, slated to open next year.

Meanwhile, he said the airport station on the LRT’s north-south Trillium Line, which received a $6.4-million funding boost from the feds last summer, is on time and on budget and should be completed in the next few weeks.

However, it will be a while before the new station handles any passengers. Last week, the city said the light-rail extension likely won’t be finished until next summer – about a year behind schedule – due to supply chain bottlenecks and labour shortages.

Laroche also said Group Germain remains committed to building a 180-room hotel under the Alt banner that will be connected to the airport terminal. He gave no updated timeline for construction, which was originally scheduled to be completed last spring, saying only that the Quebec-based hotelier is “actively working to resolve challenges” surrounding the project.

“Like all hotels, the pandemic hit them hard,” Laroche said.

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Old Posted May 3, 2022, 10:47 PM
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I’m going to guess that the specific mention of Porter means that things are reasonably well advanced
     
     
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This is super exciting! Any new transborder/transatlantic routes will do wonders for Ottawa travelers Better times ahead for sure
     
     
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Old Posted May 3, 2022, 11:43 PM
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Surveillance aircraft over Ottawa during 'Freedom Convoy' protest operated by Canadian special forces, DND confirms
National Defence acknowledged the aircraft was in use by Canadian special forces as part of a training mission on Feb. 10 but stated the flight had nothing to do with the protests.

David Pugliese • Ottawa Citizen
May 03, 2022 • 3 minutes ago • 3 minute read




Canadian special forces were operating the mystery aircraft that flew over Ottawa during the so-called “Freedom Convoy” protests in late January and February, this newspaper has confirmed.

The U.S.-registered King Air aircraft was airborne over Ottawa on Jan. 28, Jan. 29, Feb. 3, Feb. 10 and Feb. 11, according to data collected by Steffan Watkins, an Ottawa researcher who tracks the movements of vessels and planes.

For instance, on Feb. 10 the aircraft was flying circular patterns over Ottawa before disappearing from publicly available aircraft tracking systems, Watkins said.

The flights coincided with the large-scale protests held in downtown Ottawa as part of the “Freedom Convoy.”

Protesters in Ottawa demanded the government remove rules designed to prevent the spread of COVID-19. But other demonstrators also called for the overthrow of the Canadian government.

National Defence spokesperson Dan Le Bouthillier acknowledged the aircraft was in use by Canadian special forces as part of a training mission on Feb. 10. But he stated the flight had nothing to do with the protests.

Information wasn’t available from National Defence on who operated the plane on the other dates, but military sources said those flights also involved Canadian special forces.

Canadian special forces are preparing to receive their own King Air aircraft outfitted with surveillance equipment and have been conducting training leading up to the delivery of those planes.

Those aircraft, the first of which is to be delivered this summer, will give the Canadian military the ability to collect data for missions overseas and at home. The modified small passenger planes are outfitted with surveillance equipment allowing for the interception of cellphone calls, radio transmissions and other communications. Electro-optical sensors would also allow crews onboard the aircraft to track the movement of individuals and vehicles on the ground, the Canadian military has noted. Canadian special forces had access to similar aircraft in Afghanistan to track and target insurgents.

Le Bouthillier said the special forces training was already planned before the Ottawa protests and to have cancelled the flight would have been wasting money.

Watkins claimed the aircraft could have flown anywhere in the Ottawa region if the situation called for regular training. But, instead, the plane was involved in specific flight patterns, he noted.

“I believe their precise circular tracks over Ottawa suggest a form of electronic surveillance, not simply digital electro-optical imagery or video,” Watkins added in a separate report on the flights.

The Globe and Mail newspaper, citing Watkins’ data, first reported the Feb. 10 flight in an article last month. At the time, National Defence acknowledged the plane was conducting military training, but did not reveal it was being operated by Canadian special forces.

The new surveillance aircraft will be based at CFB Trenton, Ont.

Canada paid the U.S. government $188 million for the aircraft. The overall project is estimated to cost taxpayers $247 million.

The U.S. military operates similar surveillance aircraft.

A maintenance contract for the new planes was awarded to a team consisting of General Dynamics Mission Systems-Canada of Ottawa and Voyageur Aviation Corporation of North Bay, Ont.

Canadian special forces has conducted other training to prepare for the arrival of new surveillance aircraft. In October, members of the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command went to the U.S. to work with that country’s special forces in developing tactics and procedures for use with the planes.

In 2019, U.S. special forces personnel were in Ottawa and Petawawa doing similar training. In mid-November of that year, members of 427 Special Operations Aviation Squadron and the Canadian Special Operations Regiment, both based in Petawawa, conducted an exercise supported by one of the American aircraft. The U.S. plane operated from the Ottawa airport, and flights occurred between Petawawa and Mansfield-et-Pontefract, Que., according to Canadian special forces.

The surveillance gear onboard the new Canadian military aircraft is still subject to tight U.S. restrictions. Canadian military staff and aerospace employees won’t be allowed to work on parts of the equipment as they contain sensitive American-made systems that can only be handled by U.S. citizens. Instead, the gear will have to be sent to the U.S. for maintenance or U.S. government staff will have to travel to Canada to work on the planes, according to Canadian officials.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/...-by-canadian-special-forces-dnd-confirms
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2022, 12:50 AM
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Ottawa's airport looks to regain altitude as airlines re-establish routes, new carriers enter market

By: David Sali, OBJ
Published: May 3, 2022 3:19pm EDT


While Ottawa’s airport is slowly ascending from a pit of red ink as it begins to recover from the crushing effects of the pandemic, officials said this week it “will take some time” for the facility to rebuild its route network and return to operating at full capacity.

As COVID-19 restrictions ease, Ottawa International Airport Authority CEO Mark Laroche urged residents Monday to book tickets if they want to convince airlines to add more routes to the nation’s capital to their lists.

“We are not satisfied being a feeder to a large hub airport for decades to come,” he said during the airport’s annual general meeting

This is the first time I can remember reading the airport CEO making a statement of such ambition, or even defiance. Until now I’d describe him as having been unapologetically defeatist on this.

You don’t do or say anything to alienate the only one giving you some action unless you’re confident in getting some elsewhere.
     
     
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More than 100 flights a day are now serving Ottawa’s terminal, compared with fewer than 20 at this point a year ago.
So they count arrival and departures separately as "flights", departure count has barely exceeded 50 on the best day, so they must count inbound flights as well, making the number look more impressive I guess..
     
     
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Movements (arrival or departure) is a standard metric for airport statistics. Nothing unusual here.
     
     
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“We are not satisfied being a feeder to a large hub airport for decades to come,” he said during the airport’s annual general meeting

That's such an exciting statement!!!! There must be something coming... Could it be Porter declaring Ottawa as a hub? I'm crossing my fingers.
     
     
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“We are not satisfied being a feeder to a large hub airport for decades to come,” he said during the airport’s annual general meeting

That's such an exciting statement!!!! There must be something coming... Could it be Porter declaring Ottawa as a hub? I'm crossing my fingers.
This statement also excites me and is 20 years overdue:

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“Unfortunately, we do not have access to these types of incentives provided by other levels of government,” Laroche said. He said the airport is floating a plan to partner with the City of Ottawa and Ottawa Tourism to create an “air service development fund” aimed at enticing airlines to add more routes to the capital.
While geography and the ability of 737 NGs to fly transatlantic is part of the equation, if you ever wonder why YHZ is so successful at getting transatlantic service, look no further than this.

Also, here's the speech with more detail: https://yow.ca/en/corporate/media-centre/press-releases/2022-annual-public-meeting-formal-remarks

A key takeaway:

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Examples of well-suited aircraft for our market include the Trans-Atlantic range capable 182-seat Airbus A321NEO-XLR. Air Canada recently announced that starting in 2024, they will begin adding 26 of these planes to their fleet. Rest assured that we have an active dialogue with AC’s network planning leaders to help them understand how YOW is an ideal market for this aircraft. We believe this is true for the reintroduction of non-stop YOW/London-Heathrow service, Frankfurt, and possibly even the addition of Paris.
Someone posted in the Canada aviation forum the early/preliminary AC summer 2023 schedule. For YOW it includes the full pre-pandemic return of YYT, YQM, YFC, BOS (2x) and EWR (3x) routes and YWG (2x), DCA (2x CRJ) and YVR (4x 7M8) frequencies, but it does NOT YET include LHR & FRA. However, the traditional 888 & 838 flight numbers are unallocated, which makes me think we might be without transatlantic until the XLRs arrive. Eventually LHR can again support a widebody in summer.

Also Laroche said:

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Porter Airlines is growing its fleet by adding at least 30, 130-seat Embraer E195-E2 jets – another excellent fit for our market. These aircraft will enable the airline to fly to the west coast, southern US, Mexico and the Caribbean. Like with AC, we will work with Porter’s network team to help them see how YOW can support their aggressive network expansion plans.
Good, glad to hear it. And:

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Flair Airlines, Canada’s independent ultra-low-cost carrier (ULCC), has arrived in Ottawa. They currently serve nine destinations from YOW and are filling a niche in our market by introducing new customers to air travel. We understand the regulatory challenges they are now facing. But, one thing is certain: there is a market for ULCCs in Ottawa-Gatineau. Whatever the outcome, this market is important, and as of today, ULCCs represent 8 percent of total domestic departing seats and 33 percent of transborder departing seats.

Adding to YOW’s ULCC offering, West Jet’s Swoop commenced YOW service just last week to three destinations. ULCCs will represent 16 percent of total departing seats and nine routes by August this year.

All this to say, we are supporting our airline partners and encouraging them to rebuild routes and connect our community with the rest of Canada and the world. And we will be here for any airlines that wish to include YOW in their network.

As mentioned, multi-million-dollar financial incentives are common worldwide, with Canada and the USA being no exception. YOW, on our own, simply does not have the resources to go down this path alone.

That said, we are proposing a framework for an air service development fund where we hope that long-standing partners like Ottawa Tourism, The City of Ottawa, and others will be enthusiastic participants in support of our long-term growth objective. If successful, we will not use this fund to buy random flights that are not consistent with our market reality, nor will we compromise the excellent strategic partnerships with our current airline partners. Whether global network or local low-cost, every carrier is important to YOW and will play a vital role in our recovery.

Earlier today, we officially broke ground on an exciting project that is a game-changer for YOW. We call it Taxiway Romeo, and it represents the first major airside infrastructure expansion project since well before the Authority was established in 1997. We initiated Romeo to accommodate the growing demands of our G7 Capital airport, including the unique and frequent needs of the Government of Canada. We’ve earmarked nearly 25,000 square metres, or six acres, for their needs.

A positive side effect was how quickly the private sector seized the opportunity to shore up the remaining space. We have a potential private hangar and supporting apron project representing another approximately 25,000 square metres and well over $50 M in capital investments and some high-paying aeronautical jobs. Add serious interest from a cargo/logistics operator who could potentially occupy the north side of the taxiway, and I am sure you can understand why I’m bullish about our future. Confidentiality agreements preclude me from sharing more, but I will be happy to elaborate when the time is right.
Maybe one positive from the pandemic is the airport authority is no longer being so cryptic and secretive about goals and plans. If you read between the lines 'private hangar' has to almost certainly = Porter.
     
     
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Someone posted in the Canada aviation forum the early/preliminary AC summer 2023 schedule. For YOW it includes the full pre-pandemic return of YYT, YQM, YFC, BOS (2x) and EWR (3x) routes and YWG (2x), DCA (2x CRJ) and YVR (4x 7M8) frequencies, but it does NOT YET include LHR & FRA. However, the traditional 888 & 838 flight numbers are unallocated, which makes me think we might be without transatlantic until the XLRs arrive. Eventually LHR can again support a widebody in summer.
Wonder if it's possible we see LH try and give YOW a go next summer.
     
     
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Examples of well-suited aircraft for our market include the Trans-Atlantic range capable 182-seat Airbus A321NEO-XLR. Air Canada recently announced that starting in 2024, they will begin adding 26 of these planes to their fleet. Rest assured that we have an active dialogue with AC’s network planning leaders to help them understand how YOW is an ideal market for this aircraft. We believe this is true for the reintroduction of non-stop YOW/London-Heathrow service, Frankfurt, and possibly even the addition of Paris.

Maybe one positive from the pandemic is the airport authority is no longer being so cryptic and secretive about goals and plans. If you read between the lines 'private hangar' has to almost certainly = Porter.

To be 100% honest, and this may sound negative, but I personally don't believe that AC actually cares about YOW. If they wait until 2024 to add a narrow body to LHR, that would just be a slap in the face. Yes they may have direct flights to destinations that are not served by other airlines, but AC (and WS) have the least amount of options/potential options in the future from YOW when factoring in their fleet size as apposed to smaller airlines such as Flair or Porter. We are a feeder city to them, no more, no less. When LH finally begins service to Frankfurt, I can avoid AC and WS altogether. Speaking of which, my hopes for Porter making YOW a hub just keeps growing every time there is some news statement (for example, the hanger statement).
     
     
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I wonder what the “serious interest from a cargo/logistics operator” entails. Expanded Fedex, Cargojet…or maybe the arrival of UPS metal?

With Ottawa’s burgeoning warehouse sector in recent years I have said before that YOW has an opportunity for real growth of the cargo front. This statement puts some real meat on that bone.
     
     
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Examples of well-suited aircraft for our market include the Trans-Atlantic range capable 182-seat Airbus A321NEO-XLR. Air Canada recently announced that starting in 2024, they will begin adding 26 of these planes to their fleet. Rest assured that we have an active dialogue with AC’s network planning leaders to help them understand how YOW is an ideal market for this aircraft. We believe this is true for the reintroduction of non-stop YOW/London-Heathrow service, Frankfurt, and possibly even the addition of Paris.

Maybe one positive from the pandemic is the airport authority is no longer being so cryptic and secretive about goals and plans. If you read between the lines 'private hangar' has to almost certainly = Porter.

To be 100% honest, and this may sound negative, but I personally don't believe that AC actually cares about YOW. If they wait until 2024 to add a narrow body to LHR, that would just be a slap in the face. Yes they may have direct flights to destinations that are not served by other airlines, but AC (and WS) have the least amount of options/potential options in the future from YOW when factoring in their fleet size as apposed to smaller airlines such as Flair or Porter. We are a feeder city to them, no more, no less. When LH finally begins service to Frankfurt, I can avoid AC and WS altogether. Speaking of which, my hopes for Porter making YOW a hub just keeps growing every time there is some news statement (for example, the hanger statement).
The thing that keeps me optimistic is that of the few available 800 series flight numbers AC has unused, the fact that 838 & 888 are two of them, YOW's traditional FRA & LHR #s are encouraging. Here's the preliminary summer 2023 800 series list:

AC 800 789 D YYZ - DUB
AC 802 333 246 YUL - DUB
AC 804 333 1357 YVR - DUB
AC 806 788 D YYZ - EDI
AC 808 788 D YYZ - MAN
AC 810 333 D YYZ - LIS
AC 812 333 12357 YUL - LIS
AC 814 - - Not Found!
AC 816 333 357 YYZ - VCE
AC 818 333 46 YUL - VCE
AC 820 333 D YYZ - BCN
AC 822 333 D YUL - BCN
AC 824 333 D YYZ - MAD
AC 826 789 D YYZ - AMS
AC 828 333 D YYZ - CPH
AC 830 - - Not Found!
AC 832 789 D YUL - BRU
AC 834 788 34567 YYZ - BRU
AC 836 789 D YYZ - MUC
AC 838 - - Not Found!
AC 840 77W D YYZ - FRA
AC 842 77L D YYZ - FRA
AC 844 789 D YUL - FRA
AC 846 789 D YVR - FRA
AC 848 77L D YYC - FRA
AC 850 789 D YYC - LHR
AC 852 333 D YYZ - LHR
AC 854 77W D YYZ - LHR
AC 856 77W D YYZ - LHR
AC 858 788 D YYZ - LHR
AC 860 789 D YVR - LHR
AC 862 788 D YVR - LHR
AC 864 789 D YUL - LHR
AC 866 788 D YUL - LHR
AC 868 7M8 D YHZ - LHR
AC 870 77W D YUL - CDG
AC 872 77W D YYZ - CDG
AC 874 77W D YUL - CDG
AC 876 333 12456 YUL - LYS
AC 878 333 246 YUL - NCE
AC 880 789 D YYZ - ZRH
AC 882 788 246 YVR - ZRH
AC 884 333 D YUL - GVA
AC 886 789 D YYZ - VIE
AC 888 - - Not Found!
AC 890 77W D YYZ - FCO
AC 892 77W D YUL - FCO
AC 894 333 D YYZ - YUL - MXP
AC 896 789 D YYZ - ATH
AC 898 789 D YUL - ATH

Ideally at least one of the two returns in 2023, but the fact that 2 of the 4 empty flight # pairs are YOW historicals is encouraging that they'll return eventually. LH now seems like a pipe dream. AC814 was last used for YUL-BOD, which also isn't loaded (seems like a prime XLR route). AC830 I believe has been dormant for many years and is YUL-GVA's former flight number back when it used to route GVA-YUL-YYZ.
     
     
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So they count arrival and departures separately as "flights", departure count has barely exceeded 50 on the best day, so they must count inbound flights as well, making the number look more impressive I guess..
Yup the article's referring to total commercial movements, which on average is accurate these days.

Today's departure count is 57, so roughly double that (factoring in some arrivals are after midnight, so not every day is an exact match in terms of departures vs arrivals).

Today's cancellation count: 3
     
     
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I wonder what the “serious interest from a cargo/logistics operator” entails. Expanded Fedex, Cargojet…or maybe the arrival of UPS metal?

With Ottawa’s burgeoning warehouse sector in recent years I have said before that YOW has an opportunity for real growth of the cargo front. This statement puts some real meat on that bone.
I was wondering this too when scrolling through the replies to this thread.

I recall that Canadian North wanted to expand their hangar half a decade ago but that never came to fruition. Currently, CargoJet has a small section attached to the Canadian North hangar. Obviously this helps them on the YOW-YFB front, but could be a hindrance on any YHM-YOW cargo.

CargoJet does have the contract for Amazon Prime and updated recently, for DHL in Canada. They will also be expanding their fleet.

In my line of work, I order a decent amount of items that ship via UPS. And most of my next-day items from Eastern Canada arrive via Mirabel Airport and trucked to a local sorting centre. So CargoJet could definitely be in the mix for a hangar in YOW with both Amazon, DHL, and intra-Canada UPS contracts.

On the non-cargo site... Porter is the clear candidate as well all know... especially with the high-paying aeronautical job quote.

Exciting times on the horizon even if we don't have direct service to Europe yet.

On a side note... I hem and hawed about driving to YUL to go to Europe for a trip this spring, but decided to take the YOW-YUL-Europe flight instead so AC knows I am originating in YOW. Although they will know my postal code via credit card info... at least they know I am not "willing" to drive to YUL and they will have to fly me to YUL.
     
     
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Today’s departure count: 59

Friday’s departure count: 63, including the return of UA to EWR.
     
     
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On the CRJ550 that would never come here.
     
     
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On the CRJ550 that would never come here.
You called this a long time ago. I believe the route switches to E75s mid-summer as well.
     
     
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Today’s departure count: 59

Friday’s departure count: 63, including the return of UA to EWR.
Booked this flight in July. I'm nervous about the short (90 min) transfer to our Orlando flight! Anyone ever do this combo? I wonder how far (geographically) the two flights are at EWR?
     
     
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Booked this flight in July. I'm nervous about the short (90 min) transfer to our Orlando flight! Anyone ever do this combo? I wonder how far (geographically) the two flights are at EWR?
More than likely you will arrive into A at EWR and depart out of C. There is a bus that will transfer you airside so you won’t have to redo security.
     
     
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