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[zalf]

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

300 units means adding 500-600 people to an area that is reaching a very respectable density. The foot traffic will definitely increase because Indigenous people generally use more sustainable modes of transportation such as walking, cycling or transit.

Now can we please make the infrastructure on Colony/Portage to be more pedestrian friendly? It shouldn’t take more then 10 seconds to cross an intersection in an inner-city neighbourhood but that intersection the size of a Basketball court makes it take 25-30 seconds just to cross the street. Extending that bike lane on Memorial to Portage hopefully is a part of the redevelopment.

I believe part of the City's contribution is making improvements to the immediate area around it. Better pedestrian experience seems very likely.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by zalf

During the ceremony, someone on the SCO side (I forget exactly who - one of the MCs? One of the chiefs?) mentioned that something about working on the plan for a year and a half, which would mean they started moving on the opportunity as soon as it became available. It wasn't something slapped together last minute without due consideration.

Three layers of government are involved in funding it, plus HBC's contribution of the building. HBC got a specific mention for providing helpful criticism. All of those have political or public relations incentives for the project to be successful, and have reviewed the project. I'm confident in it.

you likely haven't seen the last of HBC in this project....they are a good partner and have big vision..

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by drew

The thing I like best about this development is that SCO is utilizing local consultants that I have worked with, and we can all trust to make this happen.

They aren't farming out the design work out of province, which is always a risk if some some big splashy developer would have had a go at this building.

This gets overlooked. I agree. Using the good local talent who actually know whats needed.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by trueviking

you likely haven't seen the last of HBC in this project....they are a good partner and have big vision..

interesting

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by trueviking

you likely haven't seen the last of HBC in this project....they are a good partner and have big vision..

Too bad it's not used in their retail.

[rkspec]

will the building still be called the Hudson bay?

[blueandgoldguy]

I wonder if all the space for this planned renovation is accounted for? If not, would there be adequate space for indigenous national museum with some additional funding?

Frankly, it's pathetic that this country does not have a national museum dedicated to first nations history.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

Frankly, it's pathetic that this country does not have a national museum dedicated to first nations history.

Agreed. I hope it is done properly CMHR style and not just tucked away on the 4th floor of The Bay or whatever.

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by esquire

Agreed. I hope it is done properly CMHR style and not just tucked away on the 4th floor of The Bay or whatever.

The National Museum of the American Indian in Washington is 441,000 square feet. There is also at least one more national museum in New York as well.
There is no reason we can't have at least one 100- 150,000 square foot museum at minimum somewhere in Canada, preferably in Winnipeg.

Agreed, it should be prominent building and not tucked away in some 10,000 square foot space.

[trueviking]

I agree.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by rkspec

will the building still be called the Hudson bay?

It has a new name but I doubt it will ever be called anything but the bay by the public.

[Biff]

Wehwehneh Bahgahkinahgohn

That is a mouthful.

[1ajs]

whats it mean

[lbnevs]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

whats it mean

"It is visible".

[OverUnder]

Originally Posted by Biff

Wehwehneh Bahgahkinahgohn

That is a mouthful.

Reminds me of the new WAG Inuit art centre addition. I commend the indigenous naming process as part of reconciliation, but anyone who does not speak that language can barely even pronounce the names. It’s just not practical. They should use two names - one that is indigenous and one as an English version or at least an acronym.

[post_man]

We should just learn how to say them.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by post_man

We should just learn how to say them.

indeed

[Moony]

Agreed. I'll admit as an English speaker the names take a second to figure out, but they're not actually hard to pronounce. There aren't any difficult sounds or anything like that that the average person can't take five seconds to figure out.

[NewIreland]

Originally Posted by post_man

We should just learn how to say them.

Never took many marketing classes in uni, but I recall something to the effect of, "when developing a brand . . . stick to something less than 8 syllables. So no, this isn't a "race" issue (like everything these days), just really shitty marketing.

[Moony]

Most places aren't referred to by their full official title. If 8 syllables is too much for people to wrap their minds around I'm sure a nickname will emerge. Wehwehneh Bahgahkinahgohn is just as linguistically complicated as Lagimodiere Boulevard or Riding Mountain National Park. Hell, we could just call it the WB building.

Originally Posted by NewIreland

Never took many marketing classes in uni, but I recall something to the effect of, "when developing a brand . . . stick to something less than 8 syllables. So no, this isn't a "race" issue (like everything these days), just really shitty marketing.