Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[FarmerHaight]

Are some of you assholes all the time, or only when it comes to poor and/or addicted people?

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Are some of you assholes all the time, or only when it comes to poor and/or addicted people?

I see unhappy people for whom these topics are an opportunity to project that sentiment outwards.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

I see unhappy people for whom these topics are an opportunity to project that sentiment outwards.

That's a bingo!

[Vin]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

I see unhappy people for whom these topics are an opportunity to project that sentiment outwards.

And if this City and Province were to do their job, these people wouldn't be in this state, would they?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Vin

And if this City and Province were to do their job, these people wouldn't be in this state, would they?

If the Feds hadn't let foreign money flood into our real estate market these people wouldn't be in this state. As doctors and lawyers were pushed out the West Side the pressure on the cheapest rentals elsewhere meant the most vlnerable ended up on the street. Look no further than the Metrotown Massacre of cheap walk-ups to see what helped cause this problem. The same thing happened all over Vancouver with rooming houses and cheap basement suites that weren't registered.

Not surprisingly, you don't see that as a problem.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by whatnext

If the Feds hadn't let foreign money flood into our real estate market these people wouldn't be in this state. As doctors and lawyers were pushed out the West Side the pressure on the cheapest rentals elsewhere meant the most vlnerable ended up on the street. Look no further than the Metrotown Massacre of cheap walk-ups to see what helped cause this problem. The same thing happened all over Vancouver with rooming houses and cheap basement suites that weren't registered.

Not surprisingly, you don't see that as a problem.

I never said that's not a problem, but it only becomes a major problem when the local population simply can't compete or keep up with the wealth of the world: something the Federal government did not fully understand at the time of implementation. The Province and this City could do a lot in the early days to cushion the impact but nothing was done, as taxes form property purchases are the most lucrative revenue from the most highly priced commodity in this province: land. Successive provincial and municipal governments benefitted from this. If commerce and industrial developments, including the uplift of the local population to become more financially competitive, the flow of vast amounts of foreign money could keep in tandem with the growth of the local economy, and the earning power of the local population. Alas, this place prefers to be a backwater and this is the result: an expensive bedroom community deprived of more sophisticated urban and economic developments.

FYI, the massacre of cheap wooden shacks in the West End to be replaced by the more expensive walkups and apartment towers from the 50s to the 70s allowed West End to become one of the most affordable neighbourhoods west of Main Street. The lack of this kind of development all over Vancouver is what causing the housing crisis we are having today. What's happening in Burnaby is just a natural progression of things: an event recurring in the history of human settlement-building, and precisely what is helping to make housing more affordable in the future.

Or would you rather we still live in caves? They are free dwellings I believe.

[SpongeG]

B.C. mayors call on province for more consequences for repeat offenders

By Richard Zussman Global News
Posted April 26, 2022

Mayors representing B.C.’s biggest communities are calling on the provincial government for more support to stop repeat offenders amid an increase in property crimes.


“Our residents, frontline police officers and our Councils are frustrated. We implore the Province and for your Ministries to move forward quickly on tangible solutions,” the letter, written by the BC Urban Mayors Caucus and obtained and released by the BC Liberals on Tuesday, says.

Since 2017, there has been an 118-per-cent increase in the amount of time provincial offers take to review files it receives from police, and a 75-per-cent increase in the rate of the BC Prosecution Service choosing to not charge suspects based on police cases, according to the letter.

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In Vancouver, the 40 “super-chronic” offenders have an average of 54 convictions each.

“Our police agencies also flagged a significant increase in the number of offenders routinely breaching conditions without consequence while on bail and failing to appear in court without consequences,” the letter reads.

...

https://globalnews.ca/news/8787801/bc-mayors-letter-repeat-offenders/

[Vin]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

B.C. mayors call on province for more consequences for repeat offenders

By Richard Zussman Global News
Posted April 26, 2022

Mayors representing B.C.’s biggest communities are calling on the provincial government for more support to stop repeat offenders amid an increase in property crimes.


“Our residents, frontline police officers and our Councils are frustrated. We implore the Province and for your Ministries to move forward quickly on tangible solutions,” the letter, written by the BC Urban Mayors Caucus and obtained and released by the BC Liberals on Tuesday, says.

Since 2017, there has been an 118-per-cent increase in the amount of time provincial offers take to review files it receives from police, and a 75-per-cent increase in the rate of the BC Prosecution Service choosing to not charge suspects based on police cases, according to the letter.

...

In Vancouver, the 40 “super-chronic” offenders have an average of 54 convictions each.

“Our police agencies also flagged a significant increase in the number of offenders routinely breaching conditions without consequence while on bail and failing to appear in court without consequences,” the letter reads.

...

https://globalnews.ca/news/8787801/bc-mayors-letter-repeat-offenders/

That's disgusting. However, that's what we have been saying all along: no consequences for lots of criminals.

[officedweller]

You can't make this stuff up:

Men use leaf blower distraction to saw off Chinatown dragon


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/chinatown-lamp-post-saw-off-dragon

[Metro-One]

Fucking scuzzy dirt bags.

Sometimes I see the time and effort people put into stealing and vandalism, and I think, “why not just use that same level of effort doing something constructive or positive? Financially you will probably equal out in the long run and socially you will be far better off.”

PS, does anyone in here recognize that as their missing leaf blower?

[Zepfancouver]

I couldn't help laughing at a comment in the article "Did the photographer yell at the thieves to stop?" Yeah right, that's going to work. The police and judges repeatedly tell them to stop.

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by Zepfancouver

I couldn't help laughing at a comment in the article "Did the photographer yell at the thieves to stop?" Yeah right, that's going to work. The police and judges repeatedly tell them to stop.

I saw that also. what a loser. if the person yelled at them there is a chance the guy with the leaf blower came over and beat him with it. in this city you shut your mouth dont say anything and watch the city burn. that's the Horrigan way.

[Phil McAvity]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

I saw that also. what a loser. if the person yelled at them there is a chance the guy with the leaf blower came over and beat him with it. in this city you shut your mouth dont say anything and watch the city burn. that's the Horrigan way.

Except Whoregan's not the mayor, Kennedy Stewart's the mayor

Originally Posted by Vin

And if this City and Province were to do their job, these people wouldn't be in this state, would they?

It's amazing how many people continue to think that social problems are the result of the high cost of housing and it's why crime, drug abuse and homelessness never get solved. The BC Liberals introduced a 15% tax on offshore real estate buyers years ago to try and curb the soaring price of real estate (and fatten their coffers in the process) which I and many other applauded but since then crime, drug abuse and homelessness have escalated so that shows the two are unrelated. The cost of housing has little or nothing to do with social problems, these problems are caused by emotional trauma, the breakdown of the nuclear family (mostly due to feminism) and dropping church attendance

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

these problems are caused by emotional trauma, the breakdown of the nuclear family (mostly due to feminism) and dropping church attendance

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

The cost of housing has little or nothing to do with social problems, these problems are caused by emotional trauma, the breakdown of the nuclear family (mostly due to feminism) and dropping church attendance

I gotta hear this one through. As someone who isn't faithful enough to go to church every Sunday, please enlighten us on how the breakdown of the Nuclear Family and not going to church has aggravated the social blight that is the DTES.

[giallo]

^Just look at the living hell that Scandinavia is......oh, wait.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

The cost of housing has little or nothing to do with social problems, these problems are caused by emotional trauma, the breakdown of the nuclear family (mostly due to feminism) and dropping church attendance

Well, at least the kids are safe.

[Phil McAvity]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Laugh it up but let's see some A-Logic or B-Evidence or C-Reasoning or D-Studies or E-Common Sense but I don't expect you can offer much other than smugness

Originally Posted by MIPS

I gotta hear this one through. As someone who isn't faithful enough to go to church every Sunday, please enlighten us on how the breakdown of the Nuclear Family and not going to church has aggravated the social blight that is the DTES.

"......more and more children are being born out of wedlock. In the 1960s, for example, nearly 95 percent of babies were born to couples who were married. Today, 40 percent are born to women who are either single or living with a non-married partner."
And what an amazing coincidence that as single-parenthood has become increasingly common social problems like drug addiction and crime have simultaneously grown because of course it's no coincidence, those facts are closely related

https://gillespieshields.com/40-facts-tw...g%20with,from%20broken%20homes%20(Dawson).

There are few things social scientists have studied that produced clearer results than the effectiveness of two parent families over single parent families. The data is so clear and overwhelming I don't even know where to begin posting links but i'm not surprised the half-wits at this site can't even figure out this simple fact. As far as declining church attendance, if you people had just a shred of common sense you would understand that going to church provides a blueprint for living which is clearly better than not having one and this coming from someone who doesn't go to church but appreciates religion's value and merit. As far as feminism's corrosive influence, who has championed female agency more than them? No one and what were the unforeseen consequences? Soaring divorce rates and the rise of single-parenthood which has been disastrous, all the data shows clearly that the ethos of feminism has been responsible for both of these social disasters

[whatnext]

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[logan5]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

As far as declining church attendance, if you people had just a shred of common sense you would understand that going to church provides a blueprint for living which is clearly better than not having one and this coming from someone who doesn't go to church but appreciates religion's value and merit.

Holy christ, this is so arrogant. You do not need to go to church to get a proper blueprint for living. The most secular countries are doing pretty good.

I just detest religion and all the evil it has committed. Society is better off without it.