Metro Vancouver Road Infrastructure Discussion

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Seems like they added some new traffic cameras along Richards/Seymour

https://vanmapp1.vancouver.ca/gmaps/m_covmap.htm?map=traffic_cameras

I wonder if those are to monitor car/bike crashes?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I wonder if those are to monitor car/bike crashes?

I just assume it's a major road through the city so they just added them while they upgraded everything. I wonder how the feeds are actually used in the city versus like somewhere in London or New York. I assume they have a real time view versus the 10 minute updates on the website.

EDIT: Here's the CCTV provider

The Clark Drive and 1st Avenue intersection features an advanced video surveillance camera system that has 360 degree coverage using a combination of 5 cameras total. The configuration is 4 fixed cameras and one user operated Pan Tilt Zoom camera. The 4 fixed cameras are pointed in each traffic direction (East, West, North, South). The center Pan Tilt Zoom camera can be manually operated from the City Of Vancouver control room or set to operate on an automated schedule.

https://www.camcentral.net/2019/10/30/camcentral-systems-inc-products-for-vancouver/

Seymour Street is the major traffic route for vehicles travelling for Vancouver International Airport (YVR) to locations in the Sea To Sky Corridor such as as Squamish, Whistler and Pemberton. There are large amount of vehicle traffic along this route which spans across the very busy downtown Vancouver area.

https://www.camcentral.net/2019/05/26/city-of-vancouver-chooses-camcentral-systems-inc/

It would be nice if the public website images were updated more frequently. I think it's on a 10-15 minute cycle right now.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Awesome! About time these malcontents had to endure consequences.

Yeah, this news had me smiling. Too bad the new fencing makes it difficult to toss them over.

These clowns should face some serious jail time. Only 19% agree with these idiots' tactics as per a recent poll.

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Awesome! About time these malcontents had to endure consequences

Originally Posted by Klazu

Yeah, this news had me smiling. Too bad the new fencing makes it difficult to toss them over. These clowns should face some serious jail time. Only 19% agree with these idiots' tactics as per a recent poll.

Gotta say, it's disappointing to see people supporting those drivers who dragged the protestors. I do understand how frustrating it is to be held up in traffic in those circumstances. However, while there should be consequences for illegally disrupting traffic, it has to be from law enforcement, not from self-appointed thugs using violence. The potential for serious injuries - or worse - is just too great.

[Klazu]

Oh bohoo and they can cry me a river. These clowns have been waiting for this to happen to be able to have dramatic footage on their social media to cry foul for being idiots. They are more than happy this finally happened, as they think this will now force government into action, since nobody has otherwise been giving a rat's 🞵🞵🞵 about this fools and their cause.

The damage from these asshats' stunts is already measured in millions of dollars and they should be sitting in jail, joining the TMX protesters already on the way there. We really need the same law on blocking roads as Alberta put in place and enforce it strictly.

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Oh bohoo and they can cry me a river. These clowns have been waiting for this to happen to be able to have dramatic footage on their social media to cry foul for being idiots. They are more than happy this finally happened, as they think this will now force government into action, since nobody has otherwise been giving a rat's 🞵🞵🞵 about this fools and their cause.

The damage from these asshats' stunts is already measured in millions of dollars and they should be sitting in jail, joining the TMX protesters already on the way there. We really need the same law on blocking roads as Alberta put in place and enforce it strictly.

absolutely these people are terrorists pure and simple. too bad David Eby is too busy doing god knows what when he should be crafting legislation to keep these douches under control. Everyone of them should be facing 5 year jail terms. even the ones filming from the sidewalk.

[hollywoodnorth]

as for Tvisforme. I hope one day you're headed in to the hospital for a life or death procedure and you get screwed over and end up 4 hours late and dont get your procedure. And it gets pushed back 6 months.

then you can tell everyone that you "gladly sacrificed your health for other peoples right to protest on a highway in the middle or rush hour"

some people are just lost causes.

protest all you want but follow regulations and do it the right way. Anything else I have ZERO time for.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

Gotta say, it's disappointing to see people supporting those drivers who dragged the protestors. I do understand how frustrating it is to be held up in traffic in those circumstances. However, while there should be consequences for illegally disrupting traffic, it has to be from law enforcement, not from self-appointed thugs using violence. The potential for serious injuries - or worse - is just too great.

we are past the point of being passive about this i think. it is unacceptable behaviour they are doing. they are putting themselves in the middle of a freeway at rush hour and expect people just just sit there and be happy? i dont think so.

they get what they deserve at this point.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

Gotta say, it's disappointing to see people supporting those drivers who dragged the protestors. I do understand how frustrating it is to be held up in traffic in those circumstances.

I don't condone violence of any sort, but given the kind of road rage incidents that occur on a regular basis this sort of reaction surely can't be unexpected. If you take 100 random drivers, there's a pretty good chance there will be at least a couple of psychopaths in the sample.

[Migrant_Coconut]

One would think we'd've had people dragging the Freedumb nuts off the border crossings.

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

as for Tvisforme. I hope one day you're headed in to the hospital for a life or death procedure and you get screwed over and end up 4 hours late and dont get your procedure. And it gets pushed back 6 months.

I'm astonished that you can post something like this without realizing how it completely weakens any point you might have hoped to make.

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

then you can tell everyone that you "gladly sacrificed your health for other peoples right to protest on a highway in the middle or rush hour"

I'm going to assume that you did not bother to read my original post, because the alternative is that you intentionally chose to misprepresent "there should be consequences for illegally disrupting traffic, it has to be from law enforcement, not from self-appointed thugs" as a vote of support for the protests.

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

we are past the point of being passive about this i think. it is unacceptable behaviour they are doing. they are putting themselves in the middle of a freeway at rush hour and expect people just just sit there and be happy? i dont think so.

they get what they deserve at this point.

Regardless of what you think about the protestors - and I'll reiterate that I said their actions were illegal - the actions of the drivers were also wrong and should not be condoned.

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

I don't condone violence of any sort, but given the kind of road rage incidents that occur on a regular basis this sort of reaction surely can't be unexpected. If you take 100 random drivers, there's a pretty good chance there will be at least a couple of psychopaths in the sample.

Yes, I did indicate that I understand the motivation; I was simply taking issue with several people in this thread celebrating the road rage.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

I'm astonished that you can post something like this without realizing how it completely weakens any point you might have hoped to make.

I'm going to assume that you did not bother to read my original post, because the alternative is that you intentionally chose to misprepresent "there should be consequences for illegally disrupting traffic, it has to be from law enforcement, not from self-appointed thugs" as a vote of support for the protests.

Regardless of what you think about the protestors - and I'll reiterate that I said their actions were illegal - the actions of the drivers were also wrong and should not be condoned.

Yes, I did indicate that I understand the motivation; I was simply taking issue with several people in this thread celebrating the road rage.

LOL it’s not celebrating road rage, it’s akin to clearing debris off the road.

As others said, would you be so blasé if your surgery was delayed or cancelled because the surgeon was delayed 4 hours waiting for police to clear these people? It’s very telling these eco-thugs don’t care about people getting to work, as they don’t seem to.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

Regardless of what you think about the protestors - and I'll reiterate that I said their actions were illegal - the actions of the drivers were also wrong and should not be condoned.

what do you expect people to do? they suffer through a 1hr commute on a good day, then these extortionists decide to block 6 of the 9 lanes to get around. so now theyre stuck for 4hrs while the cops stand around doing nothing most of the time.

this then happens over and over and over. they're criminals and they're trying to use extortion to get what they want. people have shown a great amount of restraint with dealing with these extortionists. they've been doing this multiple times. eventually people are going to get fed up, and i am glad they finally are.

i am also glad the cops are actually starting to clear these extortionists up in a more timely manner then they did previously.


if you want the government to do something, you protest it at the government buildings or you petition for a new government. you DO NOT use extortion and threats to cripple the working of the region and cause numerous ripple effects to other lives.

Originally Posted by whatnext

LOL it’s not celebrating road rage, it’s akin to clearing debris off the road.

As others said, would you be so blasé if your surgery was delayed or cancelled because the surgeon was delayed 4 hours waiting for police to clear these people? It’s very telling these eco-thugs don’t care about people getting to work, as they don’t seem to.

very true. there are so many impacts of these extortionists that most dont think about. its a ripple effect for sure.

imagine someone took the morning off from work to wait for some repairman. now he cant come in the morning because of the extortionists. so he says either afternoon or another day.

so now you've lost out on $$$ at your job for no reason, and will need to do it AGAIN. many people live paycheque-paycheque here. this could very well be a very real scenario as well.


they got away with their extortion long enough, its time to put an end to this.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

However, while there should be consequences for illegally disrupting traffic, it has to be from law enforcement, not from self-appointed thugs using violence.

The problem is we know how this works. It's becoming that commonplace that it's nearly a weekly spiel that an intersection or road somewhere in greater vancouver is gonna be blocked due to protesters and even with a police presence they can't do anything because their hands are tied.

1-Block route
2-Police arrive 15 to 30 minute later
3-Police tell them to leave. They say "no"
4-Okay, well we've done what we can. We'll leave them for a few hours
5-Take them away a few hours later. Process them at the jail
6-Released on condition to appear in a month and a half and "don't do that again"
7-They do it again

They know what they are doing. They damn well know what they are doing. That's why these blockades are so effective. Cops can't touch them and everyone else knows that if they touch them, odds are you'll get the book thrown far harder at you.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by MIPS

They know what they are doing. They damn well know what they are doing. That's why these blockades are so effective. Cops can't touch them and everyone else knows that if they touch them, odds are you'll get the book thrown far harder at you.

Sounds to me like the actual problem that needs to be solved is "the cops can't touch them".

[jollyburger]

^^ You guys might be talking about those protests blocking the Port of Vancouver but most of the road closures of the Lions Gate etc have lasted 10-15 minutes max. They had police officers stationed mid-span with more cars on the south side of the bridge recently during the morning.

[s211]

Originally Posted by whatnext

LOL it’s not celebrating road rage, it’s akin to clearing debris off the road.

As others said, would you be so blasé if your surgery was delayed or cancelled because the surgeon was delayed 4 hours waiting for police to clear these people? It’s very telling these eco-thugs don’t care about people getting to work, as they don’t seem to.

Reminds me of when protesters were blocking Cambie/Broadway and a whole bunch of surgeries were cancelled because of the ripple effects on the surrounding roadways and the inability to access VGH.

And for all the apologists claiming that TCH blockages were 10-15 minutes max, perhaps they're choosing to ignore the super-gluers?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by s211

Reminds me of when protesters were blocking Cambie/Broadway and a whole bunch of surgeries were cancelled because of the ripple effects on the surrounding roadways and the inability to access VGH.

And for all the apologists claiming that TCH blockages were 10-15 minutes max, perhaps they're choosing to ignore the super-gluers?

Go read my message again I said Lions Gate Bridge.

A cop goes up to a "super glued" protestor and just lifts him up. I don't know WTF you're talking about.

https://twitter.com/saveoldgrowth/status/1518616479662436352

Police rip supporter off the highway despite being glued to the road. Protocol not followed.

LOL protocol

And the protest today started around 7:30 and was cleared in 20 minutes FYI.

They should impound all the cars and we can see how brave they are running into traffic to protest

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Go read my message again I said Lions Gate Bridge.

A cop goes up to a "super glued" protestor and just lifts him up. I don't know WTF you're talking about.

https://twitter.com/saveoldgrowth/status/1518616479662436352


LOL protocol

And the protest today started around 7:30 and was cleared in 20 minutes FYI.

They should impound all the cars and we can see how brave they are running into traffic to protest

The police did impound the protestors car last week. They cried about it. Seems kind of hypocritical for a group dedicated to "saving the planet".

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by whatnext

The police did impound the protestors car last week. They cried about it. Seems kind of hypocritical for a group dedicated to "saving the planet".

I mean jumping into moving traffic to protest takes guts, parking cars in front of you shows no dedication to their cause.