Downtown Vancouver Updates

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I don't think VAHA has released the programing yet. Social housing can mean anything.

The renders of the amenity areas show a woman with children and a senior.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The renders of the amenity areas show a woman with children and a senior.

I think all I know is the 20% units that are at least 2-beds is promising which might mean a normal rental building, just not uber expensive. HILs rates are pretty normal, or should be

[officedweller]

The cladding looks unusually drab for a social housing building.
Usually, they have free reign to add colour since it doesn't have to appeal to buyers.

[hollywoodnorth]

what a waste of space and density. sickening. and we wonder why there is not enough homes for all. this is stomach turning.

[jollyburger]

Well it would shadow over the park so good luck getting anything tall built there.

"Residences at this site will be available for moderate-income households, and will be managed as a co-operative."

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

what a waste of space and density. sickening. and we wonder why there is not enough homes for all. this is stomach turning.

It's the maximum density that's allowed without a rezoning and as jollyburger notes it's already stretching the permitted shadowing on Emery Barnes Park (but will probably get away with it because it's social housing). The density is 5 FSR - Citygate might look more dense (because of the towers) but it's only 4.4 FSR.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

what a waste of space and density. sickening. and we wonder why there is not enough homes for all. this is stomach turning.

Yes I completely agree.

[cov]

that lot alone won't make a difference for the housing shortage. This photo on the other hand does reveal why we have a housing shortage.

[Metro-One]

That lot alone won’t make a big difference, but it will help, and it highlights the overly restrictive regulations we have.

[s211]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The renders of the amenity areas show a woman with children and a senior.

I'd call that marketing to get people on-side.

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

what a waste of space and density. sickening. and we wonder why there is not enough homes for all. this is stomach turning.

Yes, literally only so much land available downtown and we'll eventually be out of old tear downs like current configuration of this site, then what...

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Yes, literally only so much land available downtown and we'll eventually be out of old tear downs like current configuration of this site, then what...

See the pictures for where we can build.

Downtown still has surface parking lots and tons of 1-2 story buildings, there's room for growth.

How many people do we need to jam down there anyway?

[TwoFace]

There are hundreds of old moldy buildings in the West End that need to be torn down.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by TwoFace

There are hundreds of old moldy buildings in the West End that need to be torn down.

agreed.

we should be focusing growth on downtown, and transit stations. there so much potential. no reason we need to up-zone the whole city. its bad CoV policy that is more of the issue. no reason why downtown should be having 8 story buildings on prime corners.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by s211

I'd call that marketing to get people on-side.

I'd wait for actual facts before jumping to assumptions.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

agreed.

we should be focusing growth on downtown, and transit stations. there so much potential. no reason we need to up-zone the whole city. its bad CoV policy that is more of the issue. no reason why downtown should be having 8 story buildings on prime corners.

Yeah we need to up one the whole city. Especially the west side, which contributed next to nothing and has let the rest of the city put up with growing pains of the city.

[MIPS]

Hot question:
Can a developer take the city to court over view cone height restrictions if they believe it deliberately restricts badly needed vertical density at the benefit of views from more affluent neighborhoods? I feel like with the ingoing statistics showing there is a density problem in the city you could possibly win or get a concession.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by logan5

Yeah we need to up one the whole city. Especially the west side, which contributed next to nothing and has let the rest of the city put up with growing pains of the city.

disagree. if you kill what makes the west side unique you kill what makes a lot of the city unique. personally i think that the Municipality of Point Grey never should have amalgamated with the City of Vancouver and the Municipality of South Vancouver. that was a big downgrade for them.

Originally Posted by MIPS

Hot question:
Can a developer take the city to court over view cone height restrictions if they believe it deliberately restricts badly needed vertical density at the benefit of views from more affluent neighborhoods? I feel like with the ingoing statistics showing there is a density problem in the city you could possibly win or get a concession.

i dont see how they could. viewcones are within the cities rights for policy they can create.also, there is no law, (as far as i know), that says cities must cater to building density. remember, the law isn't what people want it to be. it is what is written down on paper.

[csbvan]

Originally Posted by MIPS

Hot question:
Can a developer take the city to court over view cone height restrictions if they believe it deliberately restricts badly needed vertical density at the benefit of views from more affluent neighborhoods? I feel like with the ingoing statistics showing there is a density problem in the city you could possibly win or get a concession.

No.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

if you kill what makes the west side unique you kill what makes a lot of the city unique.

I ask this in good faith: what makes the west side unique?