Deloitte Summit (410 W. Georgia St) | 92m | 23Fl |Completed

[jollyburger]

I guess the original plan was for a huge skylight like Telus Garden for the gym below.



https://westbankcorp.com/body-of-work/deloitte-summit

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

i assume this glass must have something like a sand blasted finish no? i don't seem someone installing slippery glass like that.

until someone here has actually checked, i will assume its a non-slip finish.

Non-slip finish only goes so far.

The glass in the sidewalk on Robson at Telus Garden has a coating but is still slippery when wet depending on what shoes you have on, and the glass on the plaza on Georgia is cordoned off all winter due to the slip hazard (compounded by the failure to install gutters on the canopy above) - makes you wonder whether they are in compliance with their development permit in providing "public space" when it's not accessible half the year.

There's no functional canopy over the Deloitte Summit glass sections, so I expect they would also be slippery when wet even if coated.

Ultimately, these installations should adopt the solution adopted for Calatrava's Zubizuri bridge in Bilbao, at least for winter:

Shifting back to the matter at hand, the Zubizuri Bridge, the first controversy erupted when locals discovered how slippery the glass surface was. Glass was probably not the most suitable material for the bridge’s deck, especially considering how often it rains in this Basque city. In light of the many bridge users who fell, the city council approved various systems to prevent additional slips, such as installing non-slip strips and replacing the tiles with others made of a special glass. It was ultimately decided to cover the entire walkway with a non-slip carpet.

https://www.barcelo.com/guia-turismo/en/spain/bilbao/things-to-do/zubizuri/

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Non-slip finish only goes so far.

The glass in the sidewalk on Robson at Telus Garden has a coating but is still slippery when wet depending on what shoes you have on, and the glass on the plaza on Georgia is cordoned off all winter due to the slip hazard (compounded by the failure to install gutters on the canopy above) - makes you wonder whether they are in compliance with their development permit in providing "public space" when it's not accessible half the year.

There's no functional canopy over the Deloitte Summit glass sections, so I expect they would also be slippery when wet even if coated.

Ultimately, these installations should adopt the solution adopted for Calatrava's Zubizuri bridge in Bilbao, at least for winter:


https://www.barcelo.com/guia-turismo/en/spain/bilbao/things-to-do/zubizuri/

i would like to think they wouldn't build something inherently slippery/unsafe. that seems like such a liability. i understand the Telus Garden issue because of that cool, yet nonfunctional canopy. i will never understand people who design these kinds of things... i dont remember those glass block panels being slippery... why not just use those?

i remember hearing about that bridge... sigh...

[officedweller]

I've slipped on the glass panels on Robson at the office entrance.
Likewise with the new marble flooring inside TD Tower lobby. The concierge here at TD Tower said the technicians used a machine to test slippage. The concierge asked if they had a woman in high heels try it - and they said 'no' (and no, I don't wear high heels!)
Even the black slate strips on Granville St. are slippery in the rain.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I've slipped on the glass panels on Robson at the office entrance.
Likewise with the new marble flooring inside TD Tower lobby. The concierge here at TD Tower said the technicians used a machine to test slippage. The concierge asked if they had a woman in high heels try it - and they said 'no' (and no, I don't wear high heels!)
Even the black slate strips on Granville St. are slippery in the rain.

Some tests in labs actually use people tethered to measure the resistance on an incline. I assume this is the machine they used for the slip test on site:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Slip_Resistance

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

Feb.27 '22, my pics

These stairs are cordoned off now.
I wonder if the City has a safety issue with stairs directly off the sidewalk?

[mcminsen]

April 12 '22, my pics

[jollyburger]

Or the fact the height of the steps sort of slope away at different points.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

my god, can we really not build things that interact with the street properly anymore?

Telus Garden, Vancouver House, Deloitte

[s211]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

my god, can we really not build things that interact with the street properly anymore?

Telus Garden, Vancouver House, Deloitte

Common denominator?

[jollyburger]

They had a roof sign for Deloitte installed, not sure if that's new or not.

[mcminsen]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

They had a roof sign for Deloitte installed, not sure if that's new or not.

I told my husband that hey, they put up a rooftop sign on Deloitte.
He said ya, I know, I took a pic the other day.

I'm like...

He took it with his iPad.
He takes about 1 photo for every 1000 I take.





April 12? '22, my husband's pic

[officedweller]

Thanks!
I expect one on the south side too.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks!
I expect one on the south side too.

Haven't seen any renderings with south signage but there aren't many renderings showing that side.

These guys designed the crown signage.

https://www.cygnus.group/our-work/deloitte-vancouver/

[officedweller]

By me today:

Stages at work.



A chain downspout on the entrance canopy (seems really close to the doorway for pooling water).
They could do something similar to the Telus Garden canopy
- with a chain at the Seymour & Georgia corner (but there could be too much flow there)

[zahav]

There is indeed signage going on the southside too. It's nice getting more corporate signage up on our offices. Although not shown on the renderings of the building, The Stack will be getting EY signage, similar to what they have in TO:

https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/ey-tower-in-downtown-toronto-gm1311006902-400233171

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by officedweller

A chain downspout on the entrance canopy (seems really close to the doorway for pooling water).
They could do something similar to the Telus Garden canopy
- with a chain at the Seymour & Georgia corner (but there could be too much flow there)

is there a drain at the bottom of that chain? it doesn't really look like it... though even if there is, that's going to be a lot of splashing right next to that front door. esh.

i have never been a fan of chain downspouts but they can work if they are going into some kind of rock/river/water garden kind of thing. maybe they'll add an above ground planter/large pot.

[jollyburger]

That canopy looks tiny I doubt it will collect much water especially considering the blocks above it?

[officedweller]

I was thinking the same on both counts - where does it drain to? and maybe not much volume.

[Vin]

I walked by the other day and saw that the frontage walkway has groove trench drains on it. That line where the chain goes to is most likely a very modern groove trench or channel drain as well, but I could be wrong.