Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity - Page 73

Acajack · #**1441** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

How would a Quebecois de souche say "Okotoks"?

OEU...QUEU...TOQUES?

Uh-kuh-tucks maybe?

O-tacular · #**1442** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

How would a Quebecois de souche say "Okotoks"?

OEU...QUEU...TOQUES?

Sounds right. I've often wondered if Quebecois pronounce it Dim-WHORE-Dans. What about the Wendy's Baconator? I can imagine my cousin ordering a Baconateur.

GreaterMontréal · #**1443** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Sounds right. I've often wondered if Quebecois pronounce it Dim-WHORE-Dans. What about the Wendy's Baconator? I can imagine my cousin ordering a Baconateur.

It is pronounced the same way in french, in TV ads it's Baconator.

p_xavier · #**1444** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

How would a Quebecois de souche say "Okotoks"?

OEU...QUEU...TOQUES?

o-ko-toks

JHikka · #**1445** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Sounds right. I've often wondered if Quebecois pronounce it Dim-WHORE-Dans. What about the Wendy's Baconator? I can imagine my cousin ordering a Baconateur.

The H is dropped like in most cases - Tim 'orton/ Tim 'ortin.

Names like Baconator and Whopper aren't changed.

O-tacular · #**1446** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

It is pronounced the same way in french, in TV ads it's Baconator.

I moreso imagined my heavily accented rive du sud cousin switching 'or' to 'eur' to make it Quebecois. Baconateur has a pretty awesome ring to it. Like something Elvis Gratton would say.

O-tacular · #**1447** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

The H is dropped like in most cases - Tim 'orton/ Tim 'ortin.

Names like Baconator and Whopper aren't changed.

It's weird because the H is usually silent, but when switching to english I find a lot of Quebecois over enunciate. Their hardest word to pronounce seems to be third. TH must be harder to pronounce than WH. But WH kind of sounds like OUI.

MolsonExport · #**1448** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:29 PM**

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Dim-WHORE-Dans

Acajack · #**1449** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:30 PM**

I mostly hear Tzim Oar-Tuhnn.

GreaterMontréal · #**1450** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

I moreso imagined my heavily accented rive du sud cousin switching eur for or. Baconateur has a pretty awesome ring to it though. Like something Elvis Gratton would say.

I would say it's probably right that many will still pronounce it in the Saguenay style traduction.

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MolsonExport · #**1451** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

I moreso imagined my heavily accented rive du sud cousin switching 'or' to 'eur' to make it Quebecois. Baconateur has a pretty awesome ring to it. Like something Elvis Gratton would say.

Like a Hambourgeois.

Beurre de Pinotet.

Ouin, pantoute.

Coupe Longueuil.

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O-tacular · #**1452** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:47 PM**

Pretty much.

O-tacular · #**1453** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

I would say it's probably right that many will still pronounce it in the Saguenay style traduction.

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This! My family isn't from Saguenay but the slang is similar.

lio45 · #**1454** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

How would a Quebecois de souche say "Okotoks"?

There's only one way. "O", "K" and "T" are very well-defined sounds.

le calmar · #**1455** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

I would say it's probably right that many will still pronounce it in the Saguenay style traduction.

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You notice the “eur” thing in the Bois-Francs region of Quebec (Victoriaville area). Hamburger is pronounced “hamburg-eur”, Not sure how it goes from there, and if it’s a constant thing all the way to Quebec City and Saguenay or if the distribution is rather uneven, but it is clearly a thing in that area and I believe as far south as Asbestos. However go south of Asbestos and it’s pronounced “hamburger”. It’s also pronounced “hamburger” in all of SW Quebec.

Acajack · #**1456** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by le calmar

You notice the “eur” thing in the Bois-Francs region of Quebec (Victoriaville area). Hamburger is pronounced “hamburg-eur”, Not sure how it goes from there, and if it’s a constant thing all the way to Quebec City and Saguenay or if the distribution is rather uneven, but it is clearly a thing in that area and I believe as far south as Asbestos. However go south of Asbestos and it’s pronounced “hamburger”. It’s also pronounced “hamburger” in all of SW Quebec.

I was just gonna say that the "eur" sound for the English "er" ending is regionally limited in Quebec.

As you say the more SW you get in Quebec, the more francophones will be used to pronouncing the "er" the English way. Or at least not with a very French-sounding "eur".

Though often it's not quite a perfect English-sounding "er", and even in Gatineau it often comes out sounding closer to "eux" than a true anglo "er".

So with Gatinois garage guys (a garage is the best place in the world for any language's slang) who are using anglicisms "wiper" sounds like "wye-peux", and "tire" sounds like "tye-eux".

GreaterMontréal · #**1457** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by le calmar

You notice the “eur” thing in the Bois-Francs region of Quebec (Victoriaville area). Hamburger is pronounced “hamburg-eur”, Not sure how it goes from there, and if it’s a constant thing all the way to Quebec City and Saguenay or if the distribution is rather uneven, but it is clearly a thing in that area and I believe as far south as Asbestos. However go south of Asbestos and it’s pronounced “hamburger”. It’s also pronounced “hamburger” in all of SW Quebec.

Back in the days in the 80's, people would say (j'ai été au ''Zellé'', et au ''Cyr'') for Zellers and Sears

MolsonExport · #**1458** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:34 PM**

Does anyone still say "Chien chaud" in Quebec?

from my Montreal days, almost everyone referred to it as a 'ot dog.

L’emploi du mot « chien-chaud » (traduction de l’anglais « hot-dog ») étant pratiquement disparu du paysage québécois depuis les années 1960.

GreaterMontréal · #**1459** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Does anyone still say "Chien chaud" in Quebec?

from my Montreal days, almost everyone referred to it as a 'ot dog.

people still say ''un roteux'' as in '' jva t'prendre 2 roteux, 1 patate frite pi 1 Coke.

lio45 · #**1460** Posted **Mar 25, 2022, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

Back in the days in the 80's, people would say (j'ai été au ''Zellé'', et au ''Cyr'') for Zellers and Sears

Yeah, my very old neighbor was pronouncing it like that ("chez Cyr"). I always found it amusing. People my age, even people my parents' age, would pronounce it the English way.