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[laumag]

Originally Posted by cheswick

Youngs Market looking to open a store mcphillips at kingsbury. Taking what I think was a buffet restaurant at some point and building an addition.

Not sure if it's a replacement to their smaller store further south on McPhillips.

If it is a replacement for the existing Youngs Market that would be a wise move. Their parking lot is always overflowing. I also find it bizarre that someone is building a 6 story apartment block smack dab in front of Lucky's Supermarket across from Maples Collegiate. I think Lucky's should relocate as well.

Further to new retail at Polo Park, I was browsing the new retail jobs listings at Indeed.ca and found two very recent ads for retail jobs at a place called Evernew Melbourne and Rodd and Gunn from New Zealand.

[esquire]

^ That Young's on McPhillips appears to have been very successful right from day one. I would think the area could handle a bigger store, although I suppose the market is a little more saturated these days with the Lucky Supermarkets near McPhillips and Notre Dame and on Jefferson, as well as the Seafood City at Garden City Shopping Centre.

I remember when that Young's used to be a Consumers Distributing... I remember carefully saving up and then finally spending my $50 on a new rod hockey table there

[cllew]

Originally Posted by cheswick

Youngs Market looking to open a store mcphillips at kingsbury. Taking what I think was a buffet restaurant at some point and building an addition.

Not sure if it's a replacement to their smaller store further south on mcphillips.

Its the other restaurant on the west side that was sort of standalone that Youngs Market wants to go into. The buffet is in another building to the east of this one in the strip mall part.

[thebasketballgeek]

Originally Posted by laumag

If it is a replacement for the existing Youngs Market that would be a wise move. Their parking lot is always overflowing. I also find it bizarre that someone is building a 6 story apartment block smack dab in front of Lucky's Supermarket across from Maples Collegiate. I think Lucky's should relocate as well.

Parking is not a requirement for grocery stores. I would much rather have an 82 unit building where 200 people have the ability to walk to their grocery store and let their kids attend Maples Collegiate across the street instead of allowing for more parking in a lot that's half empty.

Frankly they should build a lot more housing next to grocery stores and amenities instead of leaving it for parking. It's more sustainable and will generate the city more revenue in property taxes and the increase of people that will use the bus instead because they don't want to deal with parking. Hell I bet it's more economical for the grocery store because they have a guaranteed 150-200 frequent customers.

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by cllew

Its the other restaurant on the west side that was sort of standalone that Youngs Market wants to go into. The buffet is in another building to the east of this one in the strip mall part.

When the standalone building on the west side of the McPhillips and Kingsbury site was first built or maybe shortly afterwards it was an Uncle Willy's buffet. The much more recent Buffet Square somewhat ironically took over a space where the tenant immediately before them was Shapes. That building is on the north side of the lot, not the east which would be the McPhillips edge.

I would guess that if Youngs does relocate to Kingsbury and McPhillips a loading area for commercial deliveries could be an issue. I don't think the current building has a loading dock and I do not think it would be possible to add one.

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In terms of the Jefferson and Adsum apartments in front of Luckys and across from Maples Collegiate, the parking lot has long been mostly unused there and was perhaps intended as future pad site development. Other than displacing student parking and hiding the retail that will be behind the new building it should be an improvement. For student parking it would seem to be a possibility of striking up a deal with the pool on Adsum as their parking lot is mostly unused during school hours. Likely some sort of user pay system but it could generate revenue which would hopefully be directed back into Winnipeg recreational services.

Also before suggesting all the students should walk, keep in mind it is the second largest high school in the province. All high schools offer some level of student and staff parking. Also the reality is well there is transit service in the area lots of students attending there are not within the needed distance for transit service.

[bomberjet]

Third largest. SRSS in Steinbach is number 2. Splitting hairs here though. It's a large school.

[cslusarc]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Third largest. SRSS in Steinbach is number 2. Splitting hairs here though. It's a large school.

Is LSRCSS or Sisler #1?

[thebasketballgeek]

^ Sisler is still the largest school.

CoryB I also agree with your point about how parking can be redistributed to the adsum pool. The reality is people will drive to Maples, but based on my high school experience a lot of people that do have access to direct transit service to school will prefer to drive because it’s more convenient. Hopefully the inconvenience of looking for parking will encourage the students to shift to other modes of transportation, especially in the spring/summer months when the weather is suitable for walking or cycling. Also, it might encourage parents to drop kids to school or the kids to carpool which will reduce traffic either way.

[CoryB]

There are a number of factors leading to students driving to high school.

High school is when education programming splits into streams with the Maples being the acting as the more "vocational" focused on the three Seven Oaks high schools. This streaming can lead to students from outside the catchment.

Another factor is students old enough to drive are often those that have after school jobs and need to travel between the two in a timely manner that might be best supported by driving to school.

Some students drive to school as having a car is a status symbol among their peers.

Some students need vehicles to travel to school related activities such as real world career exposure programs or needing to travel to off-campus school related activities where school organized transportation is not provided.

At Maples some students are in classes focused on learning about vehicle maintenance and repairs so having practice vehicles (aka student owned) is part of the learning process.

There are both before school and after school activities on the school campus which could be outside the hours of school transportation is offered.

The other reality about the Maples is it pulls students in from West St Paul as it is their catchment school. Public transit, walking, cycling, etc are not viable transport options.

Also the northwest part of the city is second fastest growing residential area in the capital region leaving lots of students without access to public transit.

If left unmanaged the students needing parking will turn to residential streets, etc in the area leading to other problems. So this is definitely something that needs to be managed and working with the City to use the Adsum pool lot seems like the best case scenario for the Maples Collegiate.

[thebasketballgeek]

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/busine...dium=Email&utm_campaign=RecommendedReads

Kildonan Mile should be starting construction next spring. One interesting thing to note in the article is that they are going to incorporate 150 residential units within the project with the potential for more depending on demand to live in the area. The commercial aspect itself will focus on providing core amenities for the area such as food, clothing, hair salons, and dental clinics.

[bomberjet]

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/permalink.asp?id=A20220323(RM)AC-26

Is this where the Costco is going? Westport Festival. Would be building 25 on the last page. With a garden centre.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/permalink.asp?id=A20220323(RM)AC-26

Is this where the Costco is going? Westport Festival. Would be building 25 on the last page. With a garden centre.

Well this is the configuration when it was submitted a few years ago to the city. This was the one that showed a Costco without actually calling it one (and where you could actually edit the pdf to remove a white square that was covering the Costco logo). So the layout has changed if it is indeed a Costco. Can’t make out the plans too well on my phone, is there a gas bar in this new linked one?

[bomberjet]

Okay, thanks. Looks like they are different sites. The link I post on the west side of Festival drive. The Costsco on the east side.

In the link I posted there's a big square cut off by the page, labeled as number 10. And it is in the same location exactly as the Costco.

[Biff]

They potentially could have moved sites. There was an issue with the first property to the NE of the traffic circle posted above, and Costco walked away. I heard things might be back on again, so maybe this was the fix.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Biff

They potentially could have moved sites. There was an issue with the first property to the NE of the traffic circle posted above, and Costco walked away. I heard things might be back on again, so maybe this was the fix.

I thought the new Costco was going in WSP, Main St @ Perimeter? Unless they are building 2? It just seems highly unlikely that they would build 2, especially having both of them basically on the perimeter.

[drew]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/permalink.asp?id=A20220323(RM)AC-26

Is this where the Costco is going? Westport Festival. Would be building 25 on the last page. With a garden centre.

That building doesn't appear to have a gas bar or propane station - so I doubt it's a Costco. Plus it's real close to the neighbouring building which it doesn't seem that Costco seems to go for.

[bomberjet]

I thought they were building 2. One by Main St and Perimeter. The other here in Headingley. Which I now remember had some issues. Then converting St. James to some kind of business oriented Costco.

But yes Drew seems to be right. The building I was looking at has a garden centre. But not the fuel/propane. Also seems smaller than the Costco.

[Biff]

There are plans for 2 new plus a conversion of the St James store to a Costco Business Centre.

[cllew]

I was looking at the Shindico brochure for Westport and comparing it to the map on the city site and it looks like the City variance is only for the west side of the property (west of Festival drive).

Leasing Brochure full map :https://shindico.com/email/documents/plans/westport_sitePlan.pdf

And the full leasing info link:
https://www.shindico.com/index.php/search-properties/retail/westport

[AccordTR]

Costco walked away from here due to minimal sewer and water infrastructure on site. The developer and city couldn’t agree who should upgrade and pay. The only Costco coming soon is WSP