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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 5:00 PM
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Was looking forward to something new with Nat's Kitchen.. but this is just going to be a White Spot serving a few additional menu items.. lame.

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I mean expecting something new from White Spot in itself is some kind of weird fantasy. Seems more appropriate to say "serving a few additional White Spot menu items" from what they are describing.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 10:41 PM
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It's in the food court, but says it's a full service sit down restaurant, lounge and bar.
Where exactly in the food court?

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The full-service restaurant, lounge and bar also features the Kitchen Window, serving take-out shoppers in Brentwood’s popular new food court, Tables.
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-relea...HIS-SPRING-AT-THE-AMAZING-BRENTWOOD.html
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2022, 12:32 AM
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The mystery of White Spot's presence in the food court has been revealed - not Triple O's, not Nat's Kitchen, but R+D Kitchen (by White Spot), scheduled to open in 'early May': https://www.globenewswire.com/news-relea...HIS-SPRING-AT-THE-AMAZING-BRENTWOOD.html

edit: oops, missed SpongeG's earlier post including the new naming/rebranding/etc..
It says its going to be a dine in restaurant in the food court. But seems to be it is incredibility small corner in the S W corner of the food court. Wonder how many tables will they seat?
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2022, 12:57 AM
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It says its going to be a dine in restaurant in the food court. But seems to be it is incredibility small corner in the S W corner of the food court. Wonder how many tables will they seat?
Well the rest of the food court seats 780 so you assume they can easily serve 150 or so in that area especially if they can use that sawcut section at the back.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2022, 6:52 AM
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There's a sign for a Japanese restaurant moving into the 3rd floor above the Earls. Not sure if the whole floor but nice it's occupied now
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2022, 7:12 AM
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is Hello Nori still opening? I noticed at Park Royal the Hello Nori signage and wraps have been taken down, not sure if it has pulled out or they are close to done with the construction there. The website just mentions the Robson Street location.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2022, 3:24 PM
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There's a sign for a Japanese restaurant moving into the 3rd floor above the Earls. Not sure if the whole floor but nice it's occupied now
I saw that too! Do you know if this is a sushi restaurant? Brentwood needs a good sushi place that does not have ridiculous prices. Hello Nori prices are too expensive.... we need something like Jordan sushi in North vancouver.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2022, 4:38 AM
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is Hello Nori still opening? I noticed at Park Royal the Hello Nori signage and wraps have been taken down, not sure if it has pulled out or they are close to done with the construction there. The website just mentions the Robson Street location.


The owner's legal troubles might be preventing anything from happening.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/epxn...h-ceo-sky-global-sues-government-domains
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ah interesting. thanks.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2022, 12:10 AM
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The parking lot in the northwest corner of the mall has been dug up in what appears to be an initial drainage test or something before formally beginning excavation.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2022, 8:42 AM
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What is an initial drainage test?
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2022, 4:28 PM
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is Hello Nori still opening? I noticed at Park Royal the Hello Nori signage and wraps have been taken down, not sure if it has pulled out or they are close to done with the construction there. The website just mentions the Robson Street location.
Just out of curiosity does anyone know how the lease payments work in these cases where the company or retailer signs a lease with the mall, but then proceeds to let it sit empty?

Does the lessee just keep paying the rent on the place the entire time or does this mean the mall covers a portion of the bill or is it negotiated on a case by case basis between the two parties etc?
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Just out of curiosity does anyone know how the lease payments work in these cases where the company or retailer signs a lease with the mall, but then proceeds to let it sit empty?

Does the lessee just keep paying the rent on the place the entire time or does this mean the mall covers a portion of the bill or is it negotiated on a case by case basis between the two parties etc?

I'd imagine the lessee would still have to keep paying the rent for as long as they're obliged to in the tenancy agreement, regardless of whether the space sits empty or not.
And I can't imagine any situation in which the mall or landlord agrees to cover any part of the bill while it sits empty (especially when they could just find another actual rent-paying tenant)

Unless it's stipulated in their agreement that the space has to be occupied and running, the landlord typically won't care as long as the rent payments are made.
Although it may not be ideal for the landlord and the overall look and ambiance of the mall to have boarded up empty spaces even if the lessee is up to date on their payments.

I've seen situations where the lessee was happy enough to see their space sit empty for upwards of more than a year while they were trying to renovate or decide what to convert the space into.
Of course, these are deep-pocketed retailers (jewelers) we're talking about here, so they could afford to pay rent for an empty space for over a year.
The landlord in that case didn't care one jot either because it was a hard spot to lease out generally, and the tenant in this case was a good and responsible long-time tenant (i.e always on time with their payments)- as you would imagine most high-end retailers in a niche market like that would be.

Ultimately it depends on the relationship between the lessee and the landlord/mall, but as I said, some landlords would prefer to have the spaces occupied and running since good foot traffic for one retailer is (theoricically) good foot traffic for other retailers around them, and makes it easier for the landlord to lease out spaces.
Hard to stipulate and enforce in a tenancy agreement, though.

Think of it a bit like renting a house.
Current politics and political situation aside, would the landlord really care if the house was lived-in or sat empty the entire period of the lease agreement just as long as he was receiving the rent payments on time (and the presumably the house wasn't gettigng damaged)?
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I'd imagine the lessee would still have to keep paying the rent for as long as they're obliged to in the tenancy agreement, regardless of whether the space sits empty or not.
And I can't imagine any situation in which the mall or landlord agrees to cover any part of the bill while it sits empty (especially when they could just find another actual rent-paying tenant)

Unless it's stipulated in their agreement that the space has to be occupied and running, the landlord typically won't care as long as the rent payments are made.
Although it may not be ideal for the landlord and the overall look and ambiance of the mall to have boarded up empty spaces even if the lessee is up to date on their payments.

I've seen situations where the lessee was happy enough to see their space sit empty for upwards of more than a year while they were trying to renovate or decide what to convert the space into.
Of course, these are deep-pocketed retailers (jewelers) we're talking about here, so they could afford to pay rent for an empty space for over a year.
The landlord in that case didn't care one jot either because it was a hard spot to lease out generally, and the tenant in this case was a good and responsible long-time tenant (i.e always on time with their payments)- as you would imagine most high-end retailers in a niche market like that would be.

Ultimately it depends on the relationship between the lessee and the landlord/mall, but as I said, some landlords would prefer to have the spaces occupied and running since good foot traffic for one retailer is (theoricically) good foot traffic for other retailers around them, and makes it easier for the landlord to lease out spaces.
Hard to stipulate and enforce in a tenancy agreement, though.

Think of it a bit like renting a house.
Current politics and political situation aside, would the landlord really care if the house was lived-in or sat empty the entire period of the lease agreement just as long as he was receiving the rent payments on time (and the presumably the house wasn't gettigng damaged)?
I wonder what kind of terms you have for terminating a lease or do you just end up sub-leasing it?

Seems like they call it a "go dark" clause

Retail contract transcript from some conference

https://store.lsuc.on.ca/Content/pdf/2017/CLE17-00203/CLE17-00203-pub.pdf
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Just out of curiosity does anyone know how the lease payments work in these cases where the company or retailer signs a lease with the mall, but then proceeds to let it sit empty?

Does the lessee just keep paying the rent on the place the entire time or does this mean the mall covers a portion of the bill or is it negotiated on a case by case basis between the two parties etc?
Usually the sequence is as follows:
  • Occupancy/Possession Date -
  • Fixturing Commencement Date - usually dependent on the Tenant receiving occupancy and building permit from the City on a best efforts basis (ie wouldn't include financial problems of the Tenant) with an ultimate drop dead date so the Tenant can't indefinitely delay.
  • Fixturing Period - set period (ie 90 days)
  • Lease Commencement Date - sooner of the end of the Fixturing Period or first day the Tenant commences business. Rent would start on this date, but Landlords often provide a Rent Free Period of a few months.
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2022, 9:23 PM
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Usually the sequence is as follows:
  • Occupancy/Possession Date -
  • Fixturing Commencement Date - usually dependent on the Tenant receiving occupancy and building permit from the City on a best efforts basis (ie wouldn't include financial problems of the Tenant) with an ultimate drop dead date so the Tenant can't indefinitely delay.
  • Fixturing Period - set period (ie 90 days)
  • Lease Commencement Date - sooner of the end of the Fixturing Period or first day the Tenant commences business. Rent would start on this date, but Landlords often provide a Rent Free Period of a few months.
very interesting...

so in essence there's a grace period of free rent for the retailer to come in and do the work but that time mustve expired for places like Suit Supply, HaiDiLao, etc that have been "opening soon" for ages now
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2022, 10:34 PM
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I guess if they are late in getting occupancy/possession as well there might have been some adjustments.
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very interesting...

so in essence there's a grace period of free rent for the retailer to come in and do the work but that time mustve expired for places like Suit Supply, HaiDiLao, etc that have been "opening soon" for ages now
You'd think the period before the Fixturing Commencement Date for some of those would have expired by now, especially since the mall now has a lot of open stores in the expansion (ie. any additional forebearance by the Landlord (goodwill towards the tenant) past a drop dead date would seem unlikely).
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anyone know if anything progressed on this >> https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/local...ess-grocery-stores-by-early-2022-4700116

Metro Vancouver could have these 24/7 cashier-less grocery stores by early 2022

A Toronto-based company is looking to expand its unique business westward over the next six months.

Aisle 24 operates 24/7 grocery stores with a twist — there won't be cashiers, at all. While self-checkouts have existed for years now, they're normally twinned with traditional cashier checkouts.

"Aisle 24 is a fully automated, cashier-less grocery market for Canadian residential communities, condos, apartments, and campuses," states the company's website.

So far, the company operates stores in and around Toronto and Montreal, but they're looking to head west.

"Currently, we are in discussions for various sites within Vancouver, Burnaby, Coquitlam," CEO John Douang tells Vancouver Is Awesome in an email. "Specifically, [we are] in discussions with The Amazing Brentwood."
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